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Sheng-ji Yang posted:From PPP's NH poll: How would it look if Bernie attack ads started airing, after Bernie has publicly pledged to not air attacks against Hillary and support her, should she be the nominee. I don't think attack ads are the way to go as far as  is concerned.
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Joementum posted:Trump got a high profile endorsement today! That guy was on Thom Hartmann and all the comments are calling Hartmann a zionist puppet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnlBp4vT_20
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Joementum posted:Lessig got 1% in the last PPP poll, which qualifies him for the debate I thought he needed an average of 1% across several polls leading up to the debate?
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Joementum posted:Quote of the just now, "I liked The Kelly File much better without Megyn Kelly. Perhaps she could take another eleven day unscheduled vacation!" ~ Take a Wild Guess Who These got really good. Can't wait to see Trump go off on Ailes.   Pinterest Mom posted:
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Aug 25, 2015 18:50
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Why did Lawrence Lessig upset anyone? He seems extremely uninteresting, who cares if he makes the debate?
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Aug 25, 2015 18:52
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Schnorkles posted:I'm pretty sure you could find that post almost word for word about Ron Paul in 2007 on these very forums. My lord you people are dense. If anything, "shady backroom" stuff helped Ron Paul get the delegates he got. Ron Paul was a fringe candidate (he was also a weak candidate). Trump isn't a fringe candidate and he's not a weak candidate.
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greatn posted:Why did Lawrence Lessig upset anyone? He seems extremely uninteresting, who cares if he makes the debate? His ideas for reform are extremely stupid and I don't want them to have a platform.
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Aug 25, 2015 18:53
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Joementum posted:His ideas for reform are extremely stupid and I don't want them to have a platform. My boss is friends/neighbors to the Leggig's. He's a big fan and supported both his PAC and now his presidential run. No matter how many times I or others say that his ideas are dumb and would never work (especially the PAC, where we have clear proof it didn't work), he won't listen.  .
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Trump has responded:Politico posted:In a statement, Trump said he "totally disagrees" with Ailes and said he does not think Kelly is a "quality journalist":
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Aug 25, 2015 18:59
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Joementum posted:His ideas for reform are extremely stupid and I don't want them to have a platform. http://www.onthemedia.org/story/lawrence-lessig-referendum-candidate/ OTM did an interview with him recently, if anyone is curious.
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Aug 25, 2015 18:59
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So how hard would it be for Trump to win the nomination without Virginia or NC? I could see him going "That's fine, I can respect that, and I'm glad that the American People have been given this opportunity to see the desperate losers that are really holding the gun to their collective temple."
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Lessig is doing an ama on reddit right now and hes being pretty beat up by sanders supporters, which is good. also he posted this lol: quote:Sanders is great, but he is running a campaign to win, not to govern. Like Obama 8 years ago, he is talking about the problem, but not giving us a plan for how it will be fixed. First. Because if he doesn't address it first, then — seriously, this is obvious, right? — none of the things he's talking about will be possible. So why isn't he talking about it first? Because the consultants are telling him: "here's how you win a campaign." They don't care if winning the campaign that way means you can't actually govern. I do care about whether we have a government that can govern. I'm offering a plan that might actually get us that. Sanders, definitely the candidate who only cares about winning and saying what the consultants and pollsters tell him to say
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Dahbadu posted:My lord you people are dense. If anything, "shady backroom" stuff helped Ron Paul get the delegates he got. Ron Paul was a fringe candidate (he was also a weak candidate). Trump isn't a fringe candidate and he's not a weak candidate. Dude, you're gonna have to post some sources sometime. Brannock posted:Not only would Trump be the least worst GOP candidate, I think he would also probably be very good for the left in America by way of destroying and completely discrediting the Republican party whether he wins or runs third party. And you're gonna have to post something you haven't just repeated word for word for weeks now.
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Shageletic posted:Dude, you're gonna have to post some sources sometime. Just read about how caucuses, delegates, and superdelegates work.
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Dahbadu posted:Just read about how caucuses, delegates, and superdelegates work. Could you link me to some good information about Ron Paul and superdelegates?
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Does anyone have the picture of Scott walker as a conehead
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Dahbadu posted:Just read about how caucuses, delegates, and superdelegates work. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. berniesupporters.txt
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Joementum posted:Could you link me to some good information about Ron Paul and superdelegates? 
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AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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Aug 25, 2015 19:07
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Pull up Trump, you're going to get banned! Oh right you're not on the Something Awful internet forums you're just the front-runner for the Republican nomination.
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Correct me if I'm wrong Joe, but didn't Ron Paul do good enough to get a decent percentage of the delegates in some states, mostly by having supporters hijacking caucuses. But because delegates were split, superdelegates came into play, and basically took those delegates away from him. Based on current polling Trump will win by so much superdelegates won't matter enough. And my other point is that Trump doesn't need to play games to win.
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Joementum posted:His ideas for reform are extremely stupid and I don't want them to have a platform. He spoke at my law school while I was there and I was shocked just how idiotic and naive his politics were, for someone I'd thought of as a reasonably respected legal academic. Like, his big argument then was that if Congress had an 18% approval rating, but wasn't being completely overturned every two years, it must be because of money in politics. Instead of that, you know, each individual Congressperson is likely to be fairly popular in their own district/state and people just hate the aggregate. Dahbadu posted:Correct me if I'm wrong Joe, but didn't Ron Paul do good enough to get a decent percentage of the delegates in some states, mostly by having supporters hijacking caucuses. But because delegates were split, superdelegates came into play, and basically took those delegates away from him. Based on current polling Trump will win by so much superdelegates won't matter enough. And my other point is that Trump doesn't need to play games to win. You're correct that his supporters pulled some chicanery to get him some delegates, but Ron Paul didn't get anywhere near close enough for party actors to have to do anything. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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Dahbadu posted:Correct me if I'm wrong Joe, but didn't Ron Paul do good enough to get a decent percentage of the delegates in some states, mostly by having supporters hijacking caucuses. But because delegates were split, superdelegates came into play, and basically took those delegates away from him. Based on current polling Trump will win by so much superdelegates won't matter enough. And my other point is that Trump doesn't need to play games to win. You seem pretty behind on all this. I recommend that you just read about how caucuses, delegates, and superdelegates work.
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Dahbadu posted:Correct me if I'm wrong Joe, but didn't Ron Paul do good enough to get a decent percentage of the delegates in some states, mostly by having supporters hijacking caucuses. But because delegates were split, superdelegates came into play, and basically took those delegates away from him. Based on current polling Trump will win by so much superdelegates won't matter enough. And my other point is that Trump doesn't need to play games to win. "Superdelegates" only exist in the DNC, which lets all Congressional, Gubernatorial, and Presidential Democrats be delegates at the convention. Ron Paul used the way caucuses worked in 2012 to get a few more delegates than he would had they been awarded proportional to the results of the precinct caucuses, but they all got to go to the convention and vote for Ron except the contested Maine delegates, who claimed that Ron Paul won because of a snowstorm or something.
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Dahbadu posted:Correct me if I'm wrong Joe, but didn't Ron Paul do good enough to get a decent percentage of the delegates in some states, mostly by having supporters hijacking caucuses. But because delegates were split, superdelegates came into play, and basically took those delegates away from him. Based on current polling Trump will win by so much superdelegates won't matter enough. And my other point is that Trump doesn't need to play games to win. I'm going to frame this post.
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Joementum posted:"Superdelegates" only exist in the DNC, which lets all Congressional, Gubernatorial, and Presidential Democrats be delegates at the convention. Ron Paul used the way caucuses worked in 2012 to get a few more delegates than he would had they been awarded proportional to the results of the precinct caucuses, but they all got to go to the convention and vote for Ron except the contested Maine delegates, who claimed that Ron Paul won because of a snowstorm or something. Good to know. So does my point still not stand: Ron Paul got the support he got because he worked the system really well with what little he had?
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Dahbadu posted:Good to know. So does my point still not stand: Ron Paul got the support he got because he worked the system really well with what little he had? He got a few more delegates than he otherwise might have, but it wasn't a big deal. Ron's big deal making in 2012 happened when he formed a non-aggression pact with the Romney campaign in exchange for Rand getting a prime-time speaking slot at the convention. Also, it's completely understandable to not know the rules of delegate apportionment off the top of your head.
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AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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Aug 25, 2015 19:23
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Dahbadu posted:Correct me if I'm wrong Joe, but didn't Ron Paul do good enough to get a decent percentage of the delegates in some states, mostly by having supporters hijacking caucuses. But because delegates were split, superdelegates came into play, and basically took those delegates away from him. Based on current polling Trump will win by so much superdelegates won't matter enough. And my other point is that Trump doesn't need to play games to win. Jesus. http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates Oh yeah and in 2008 quote:As of February 5, 2008, Paul had won sixteen delegates to the Republican National Convention, placing him last amongst the four Republican candidates still in the race at that time.[10] The campaign projected on February 6 to have secured at least 42 delegates to the national convention Wikipedia
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:Paul won the majority of delegates in Iowa, Minnesota, and Nevada, but in the end, Paul got something like 7-8% of the total delegates. Romney got ~90%. I guess Paul may have "swayed/tilted" things enough to earn himself an extra percentage point, but he in no way turned the party rules on their head. Huh. I was under the impression he managed to "tilt the rules" to get a good chunk of the delegates he did, not an extra percentage point (although not that many in absolute numbers). In the end I suppose to doesn't really matter. I don't think anything about Ron Paul is relevant to Trump's run.
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I never said he turned the system on his head, but he did use it in his favor. Something Trump won't even have to do (if things continue the way they are). Edit: I was definitely wrong about the rules, and I whole hardheartedly admit that. But my point was is that Ron Paul used the arcanity of the system (which I labeled as "shady backroom stuff") in his favor, which he did. I think it's fair to say that my point still stands. Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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Shageletic posted:
When a politician does this, we call them consistent and authentic :v But seriously, Trump is a genuine positive for progressives. He's making financially center-left stances palatable to conservative americans while forcing racism out of the dogwhistles and shadows. In the very best of scenarios we will end up with a reverse-libertarian bloc that must end its racism or remain unelectable.
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Meanwhile, at Rand Paul's rally in Alaska...
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Jewel Repetition posted:That guy was on Thom Hartmann and all the comments are calling Hartmann a zionist puppet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnlBp4vT_20 He was on Alex Jones the other day. Every other word that came from his mouth was "Jew." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuXNMkBJbNg The comments. 
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Alaska owns. I'd really like to move there.
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Cephalocidal posted:So how hard would it be for Trump to win the nomination without Virginia or NC? I could see him going "That's fine, I can respect that, and I'm glad that the American People have been given this opportunity to see the desperate losers that are really holding the gun to their collective temple." It depends on how many states follow VA/NC's lead and if any of this has any bite.
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turnip kid posted:He was on Alex Jones the other day. Every other word that came from his mouth was "Jew." That's not too surprising; Wizards have always been at-odds with Warlocks, especially ones skilled in golemancy.
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turnip kid posted:He was on Alex Jones the other day. Every other word that came from his mouth was "Jew." wow watching this i just realized that Alex Jones needs to run for president
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Joementum posted:Also, it's completely understandable to not know the rules of delegate apportionment off the top of your head. you are dead to me
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