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LastInLine posted:The reason I ask is because anyone, rooted or not, unlocked or locked bootloader, can apply an OTA with the stock recovery and the everyone else update came out a few days before the T-Mobile one. Using the everyone else update caused radio dropouts. Shouldn't have affected Bluetooth but for some reason wifi and Bluetooth on Android seem to be weirdly tied together. Flashed the M preview, so far no problems (other than apps that don't work fully with M yet).
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I think it boils down to the differences between the 3rd gen and 4th gen Gobi LTE modem from Qualcomm. The 805, 808, and 810 all use the 4th gen. The 615 and 410 use the 3rd gen. The Nexus 6 uses the 805 and has a "one device to rule them all" situation similar to the Pure with the 808. We already know that the Moto G using the 410 needs different SKUs depending on radios since there's a GSM model and a model for Sprint/Virgin/US Cellular. I'm going to go out on the limb and say that the 4th gen Gobi can support more simultaneous radios than the 3rd gen which makes an 'all carrier' device possible. So, that would leave the 615 in the multiple SKUs bucket to cover all US carriers since it uses the 3rd gen modem. So, Moto had a choice to make. They could do like they did with the G and release one or two SKUs that would serve part of the market, but they probably felt there wasn't enough price difference between $220 and $300 to make it worth the effort. So, they decided to shop the device around for carrier support. If the carrier would support it, then it would be worth their time to make a unique SKU to serve that market. Only Verizon bit. That is likely because they are not served by the 3rd gen Moto G and they need a decently priced option to go with their new no-contract plans.
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Aug 25, 2015 23:43
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Anyone here go from the Nexus 4 to the 2015 Moto G? I'm curious if there is any sort of difference in performance. I know the battery life is better on the G, not sure about the camera.
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Aug 26, 2015 00:09
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I mentioned a problem I'm having with ghost images in Picasa a few pages back and nobody commented on it. I'd like to re-post the question, but I'm not sure if that's poor etiquette or not. Is it cool to re-ask a question if it slips by, or is there a waiting period you should go through to not be annoying as poo poo?
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Aug 26, 2015 00:55
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Butt Savage posted:I learned about a Verizon and Motorola deal from a buddy of mine last week whose brother works at a Verizon store. According to him... This sounds like it's going to be super reliable information.
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Aug 26, 2015 01:30
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I know, I know. It's part of the reason why I didn't bother mentioning it in this thread since it gave off that whole "my uncle who works at Nintendo" vibe, and on top of that I myself questioned the accuracy. But he wasn't too far off, he just mistakenly thought the exclusivity applied to all the new Moto X's and not just one model.
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Aug 26, 2015 01:48
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Seditious Jerk posted:I mentioned a problem I'm having with ghost images in Picasa a few pages back and nobody commented on it. I'd like to re-post the question, but I'm not sure if that's poor etiquette or not. Is it cool to re-ask a question if it slips by, or is there a waiting period you should go through to not be annoying as poo poo? I saw your question but don't know the answer. My feeling is that Picasa is completely tied to Hangouts and you can't do what you're wanting but have no evidence one way or the other.
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Aug 26, 2015 01:48
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Seditious Jerk posted:I mentioned a problem I'm having with ghost images in Picasa a few pages back and nobody commented on it. I'd like to re-post the question, but I'm not sure if that's poor etiquette or not. Is it cool to re-ask a question if it slips by, or is there a waiting period you should go through to not be annoying as poo poo? If clearing Picasa's cache doesn't solve it then I'd chalk it up to just "one of those Android things."
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Aug 26, 2015 02:16
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Hughmoris posted:Anyone here go from the Nexus 4 to the 2015 Moto G? I'm curious if there is any sort of difference in performance. I know the battery life is better on the G, not sure about the camera. I'm curious about the difference too. I have a Nexus 4 that is still going strong but having 4G LTE would be nice.
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Aug 26, 2015 03:08
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Carriers need to stop installing crap people don't want. http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/08/major-android-remote-access-vulnerability-is-now-being-exploited/?comments=1
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Aug 26, 2015 03:53
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Hughmoris posted:Anyone here go from the Nexus 4 to the 2015 Moto G? I'm curious if there is any sort of difference in performance. I know the battery life is better on the G, not sure about the camera. I just upgraded from the N4 to the 16gb Moto G and I'm loving it. It's blazing fast, the camera is a nice upgrade, and the battery life (cannot be understated) is terrific. Highly recommended. Here's a photo I took with the Moto G yesterday:  (Oh, the camera does suck in dim light though)
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Aug 26, 2015 04:50
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Hughmoris posted:Anyone here go from the Nexus 4 to the 2015 Moto G? I'm curious if there is any sort of difference in performance. I know the battery life is better on the G, not sure about the camera. Didn't go from one to the other, but I've owned both. Moto G blows the Nexus 4 out of the water in every aspect.
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Aug 26, 2015 04:51
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The 2015 Moto G should easily outperform the Nexus 4, not only is it 3 years newer, the Nexus 4 could barely legally claim to have "battery life" and "a camera" in the first place.
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Aug 26, 2015 06:23
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Desk Lamp posted:The 2015 Moto G should easily outperform the Nexus 4, not only is it 3 years newer, the Nexus 4 could barely legally claim to have "battery life" and "a camera" in the first place. It had that badass design on the back glass though. gently caress that was tits.
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Aug 26, 2015 06:28
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I miss my N4, it was the perfect size. I see you're already on the topic of the Moto G, I read one of the Moto devices has actual hands free control of some sort, at least while in car? Does this have that? Voice control is laughably bad natively in android, coming from WP. Also the N4 has LTE, you just need to root and use an app to make it work. codo27 fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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Aug 26, 2015 11:56
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codo27 posted:Also the N4 has LTE, you just need to root and use an app to make it work. Well it only has LTE on Band 4 and if you're to the point where you've rooted you can just download and flash the radio in fastboot without the app.
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Aug 26, 2015 12:18
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codo27 posted:I see you're already on the topic of the Moto G, I read one of the Moto devices has actual hands free control of some sort, at least while in car? Does this have that? Voice control is laughably bad natively in android, coming from WP. I have no idea about the Moto G or E, but every generation of the X has had always listening Touchless Control (or Moto Voice, they renamed it at some point). Among other things, it detects that you're driving and reads text messages out loud to you, asking you if you want to respond (through dictation). What problems have you been having with the native voice control?
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Aug 26, 2015 12:51
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Super Dude posted:I have no idea about the Moto G or E, but every generation of the X has had always listening Touchless Control (or Moto Voice, they renamed it at some point). Among other things, it detects that you're driving and reads text messages out loud to you, asking you if you want to respond (through dictation). What problems have you been having with the native voice control? G does not have the always listening chip. I had it on my '13 X and I really didn't like it. I listen to a lot of audiobooks so random pausing for crummy quick little messages were more of a nuisance to me.
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Aug 26, 2015 13:18
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I'm not sure if battery problems are a thing of the past or not (mostly because every time I Google something, there's always wild contradictory information) but, I accidentally left the tablet off charge until it shut down. This is the first time I've done it. Is this going to cause a battery issue?
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Aug 26, 2015 13:19
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Letting your tablet shut off because of lack of battery once isn't going to destroy your battery. I would probably avoid doing it constantly, but you shouldn't have any problems because of this one incident.
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Aug 26, 2015 13:35
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With Windows phone, boy it was a breeze. Driving down the road and get a text, I don't have to look at the phone or interact with it in any way, it would say I have a text from someone, ask if I want to read it, and then give me the opportunity to reply. How the gently caress in 2015 does android not have this stock? Yes yes you can get apps, although I've tried some and they still require you to do at least something first, but this should be baked in. I'm willing to forego the removable battery I guess seeing with all 3 Galaxy's I've had (S, S3 and S5) the back cover has cracked from removing it all the time. 8gb internal storage does seem a bit low even with SD slot. But for $200? Koodo lists it at $216 so I can probably get it even cheaper somehow.
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Aug 26, 2015 13:35
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TraderStav posted:G does not have the always listening chip. I had it on my '13 X and I really didn't like it. I listen to a lot of audiobooks so random pausing for crummy quick little messages were more of a nuisance to me. The always listening is unrelated to the pausing of playing to read text messages. The reading of text messages is just a configurable thing in the Moto app. (Well, I guess it was the Moto Actions app back on the '13 X.)
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Aug 26, 2015 13:38
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The desire z was my first smartphone and its physboard was great, the s4 that replaced was fine without one. The nexus 6 I have now would be harder to use with one due to size IMO.
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Aug 26, 2015 14:45
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Desk Lamp posted:The 2015 Moto G should easily outperform the Nexus 4, not only is it 3 years newer, the Nexus 4 could barely legally claim to have "battery life" and "a camera" in the first place. FWIW, the new Moto G (2015) benchmarks slightly above the Nexus 4. (roughly 20,000 on Antutu). For comparison the Nexus 5 apparently tests around 27,000. Other recent budget phones do have quite a bit more horsepower. The Idol 3 scores around 32,000 and the Zenfone 2 about 42,000.
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Aug 26, 2015 14:59
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See I couldn't care less about benchmarks in phones because, well, its a loving phone. I'm not gonna be playing any games on it (until a mobile version of Space Harrier is put out). I found my N4 very snappy, especially when I rooted it and used a custom ROM. I just want things to open and transition reasonably smoothly. I just wish the loving industry wasn't trending towards big phone=big specs. I mean just because I want a <5" phone doesn't mean I should have to settle for a poo poo camera (the other big factor for me) or lack of any other features.
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Aug 26, 2015 15:26
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Keep in mind that even though the processor is just a little above the Nexus 4, RAM and NAND are probably significantly faster on the Moto G which would lead to a better experience.
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Aug 26, 2015 15:35
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LastInLine posted:I saw your question but don't know the answer. My feeling is that Picasa is completely tied to Hangouts and you can't do what you're wanting but have no evidence one way or the other. Desk Lamp posted:If clearing Picasa's cache doesn't solve it then I'd chalk it up to just "one of those Android things."
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Aug 26, 2015 15:35
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You can go to Settings > Storage and click on Cached Data to clear the general cache, if that helps I'm guessing your Picasa account is connected to your Google one, and that's why it's pulling in data from there. Might be worth checking what you have under Accounts and Sync in the settings, and maybe also look at your Google account online and see if you can unlink the Picasa account I think for a lot of people Picasa got automatically changed to Google+ albums, and now that's being pulled out into Google Photos, so uh your pics might be lurking in there too
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Aug 26, 2015 16:35
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The coolest thing about picasa and google photos was when I was at the cabin once and it just decided to sync up my photos to my phone for no reason to the tune of 2 gigs of data back when I only had 500mb. Luckily the carrier waived it when I explained what happened.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:40
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baka kaba posted:You can go to Settings > Storage and click on Cached Data to clear the general cache, if that helps
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Aug 26, 2015 16:54
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I think I've come up with a solution for your annoyance. Place the phone face up on the ground between your feet. Now jump into the air, bringing your knees up as far as you can. On the descent, be sure to direct the heels of your feet sharply downwards and firmly onto the screen of your phone. Repeat this in rapid succession until you fall down or the stomping can cause no more discernible damage to the device. You've now successfully "jumped up" your phone and can go buy something else!
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Aug 26, 2015 17:05
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And just to clarify, not sure if this matters, this problem is only happening when attaching messages from the "Gallery" app, not "Photos".
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Aug 26, 2015 17:22
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BeastOfExmoor posted:FWIW, the new Moto G (2015) benchmarks slightly above the Nexus 4. (roughly 20,000 on Antutu). For comparison the Nexus 5 apparently tests around 27,000. Other recent budget phones do have quite a bit more horsepower. The Idol 3 scores around 32,000 and the Zenfone 2 about 42,000. Good thing benchmarks are useless! How does the Zenfone benchmark for Crapware per Phone and Build Quality per Second? 
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Aug 26, 2015 17:38
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Seditious Jerk posted:And just to clarify, not sure if this matters, this problem is only happening when attaching messages from the "Gallery" app, not "Photos". Then stop using the Gallery app and start using the Photos one.
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YThermopyle posted:The always listening is unrelated to the pausing of playing to read text messages. The reading of text messages is just a configurable thing in the Moto app. (Well, I guess it was the Moto Actions app back on the '13 X.) Yes, that's right. I need to enforce my no-posting-before-breakfast rule.
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Seditious Jerk posted:And just to clarify, not sure if this matters, this problem is only happening when attaching messages from the "Gallery" app, not "Photos". It might be MediaServer still listing the files in its database (but they're not there so the app can't generate thumbnails). Try restarting your phone and see if they've gone
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baka kaba posted:It might be MediaServer still listing the files in its database (but they're not there so the app can't generate thumbnails). Try restarting your phone and see if they've gone 
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If you click them and it says something like CAN'T LOAD THAT then they might disappear on their own eventually. It's all a bit weird
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Would you guys get a Nexus 5, a Moto G, or Moto X Play if those were your options and money was a potential factor? I realize the Play is twice the price of the G, but maybe it's worth it? I am in Canada.
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What should have better battery life? Moto X Play with its larger screen and more pixels and 3630 mAh or the Moto G with its smaller screen and less p and the 2470 mAh?
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