Madoka Magica: Gen Urobuchi Warmed Some Hearts

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Yes_Cantaloupe: Feb 28, 2005

This is what truly causes Sakurazuka to intensify.

# ? Aug 26, 2015 08:14

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 23:15

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

Sakurazuka posted:

It's me, I'm getting mad about ships in the Madoka thread

Who is your OTP?

# ? Aug 26, 2015 08:33

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

Kyouko x apples

# ? Aug 26, 2015 08:33

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

Doublefisting burgers

# ? Aug 26, 2015 08:34

Mordaedil: Oct 25, 2007; Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?; Grimey Drawer

littleorv posted:

Who is your OTP?

KyubeyxEveryone.

# ? Aug 26, 2015 08:40

Super Jay Mann: Nov 6, 2008

Namtab posted:

Kyouko x apples

Hell no kyouko belongs with pocky, keep your apples away from her.

# ? Aug 26, 2015 08:42

Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

Namtab posted:

Doublefisting burgers

# ? Aug 26, 2015 08:42

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

i didn't think the dub was bad

# ? Aug 26, 2015 10:50

Mokinokaro: Sep 11, 2001; At the end of everything, hold onto anything; Fun Shoe

Jagchosis posted:

i didn't think the dub was bad

It's definitely not amazing either.

The issue I had with it is everyone sounds too high pitched. I think they were going for the pitch of the Japanese VAs, but it just doesn't work in English.

# ? Aug 26, 2015 12:11

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

Mokinokaro posted:

It's definitely not amazing either.

The issue I had with it is everyone sounds too high pitched. I think they were going for the pitch of the Japanese VAs, but it just doesn't work in English.

i mean thats just how those women all talk, judging from them being in like literally every aniplex dub ever. they aren't affecting it to make it more moe or anything

# ? Aug 26, 2015 12:21

littleorv: Jan 29, 2011

Jagchosis posted:

i didn't think the dub was bad

Girls can't love girls. Girls can't love girls! Girls can't love girls!

# ? Aug 26, 2015 16:40

PerrineClostermann: Dec 15, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

littleorv posted:

Girls can't love girls. Girls can't love girls! Girls can't love girls!

You're mine, Madoka! Mine mine mine!

# ? Aug 26, 2015 16:43

Sakurazuka: Jan 24, 2004; NANI?

littleorv posted:

Girls can't love girls. Girls can't love girls! Girls can't love girls!

I was gonna post that but I was at work and couldn't check it was the right vid.

# ? Aug 26, 2015 17:00

Blaziken386: Jun 27, 2013; I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

Sakurazuka posted:

I was gonna post that but I was at work and couldn't check it was the right vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI9hgp32-f0

# ? Aug 26, 2015 17:01

esselfortium: Jul 19, 2006; Cumulonimbus Antagonistic Posting

littleorv posted:

Girls can't love girls. Girls can't love girls! Girls can't love girls!

And this is evidence against the dub?

# ? Aug 26, 2015 17:21

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

littleorv posted:

Girls can't love girls. Girls can't love girls! Girls can't love girls!

an entry on my rapsheet from baal retiring and im proud of it. dont know how thats evidence of the dub being bad, it owns

e: also slightly differently translated in the gg subs i first watched but i liked the dub line from sayaka about homura being "so moe it makes me sick"

Homura and Sickle fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Aug 26, 2015

# ? Aug 26, 2015 17:36

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

In the dub the girls talk in a stilted, unnatural way. Koobie has too much emotion whereas dokes does not have enough.

Dubs are bad

# ? Aug 26, 2015 17:54

PerrineClostermann: Dec 15, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

Namtab posted:

In the dub the girls talk in a stilted, unnatural way. Koobie has too much emotion whereas dokes does not have enough.

Dubs are bad

A pretty fair assessment of the dub.

There are some good dubs though, for instance Spice and Wolf had a pretty good Holo.

# ? Aug 26, 2015 18:08

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

Namtab posted:

In the dub the girls talk in a stilted, unnatural way. Koobie has too much emotion whereas dokes does not have enough.

Dubs are bad

i didn't really have any problem or perceive that at all but if thats what you thought fair enough

then again im not an animes purist but i am a meduka super fan i've watched the madoka through about half as many times as lord justice has which shows incredible dedication

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4VGJmgeyCc

# ? Aug 26, 2015 18:11

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

i also agree with his assessment that its the greatest work civilization has produced and that humanity should just call it quits while we're ahead

# ? Aug 26, 2015 18:18

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

I'm squeaky gaijin saku

# ? Aug 26, 2015 18:22

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

What are the best meduka ships?

personally I believe that Madoka's dad is precisely what her teacher is looking for. No problems with how he likes his eggs.

trucutru fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Aug 26, 2015

# ? Aug 26, 2015 20:06

PerrineClostermann: Dec 15, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

trucutru posted:

What are the best meduka ships?

personally I believe that Madoka's dad is precisely what her teacher is looking for. No problems with how he likes his eggs.

1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 13 are the best hairstyles, they represent the inner struggles of the meguca through character development

# ? Aug 26, 2015 20:35

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

I choose.....12

# ? Aug 26, 2015 20:40

Yes_Cantaloupe: Feb 28, 2005

trucutru posted:

おさげ

I have learned a new word, and a new tag to search on pixiv.

# ? Aug 26, 2015 20:40

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

trucutru posted:

What are the best meduka ships?

its obviously homura and madoka and anyone who disagrees i will fight you to the death

# ? Aug 26, 2015 23:43

Lestaki: Nov 6, 2009

trucutru posted:

What are the best meduka ships?

Jagchosis posted:

its obviously homura and madoka and anyone who disagrees i will fight you to the death

I will second you my good man.

But I'm a Charlotte X Mami hipster. Before Rebellion made their friendship a coherent thing with a basis in events that happen, portraying them together was pleasingly contrarian.

But the secret OTP is obviously Charlotte and Kyouko given how much they have in common.

I've read various incoherent theories on other websites about how Rebellion mocks fan works and fan interests, but Charlotte/Bebe's elevation to an actual if poorly realised character is proof enough that Shinbo and co are kind of into that stuff. And as these things do, her canon portrayal as a magical girl takes away some of the charm of fans having free reign to depict her however they pleased.

# ? Aug 27, 2015 00:42

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

Lestaki posted:

I've read various incoherent theories on other websites about how Rebellion mocks fan works and fan interests, but Charlotte/Bebe's elevation to an actual if poorly realised character is proof enough that Shinbo and co are kind of into that stuff. And as these things do, her canon portrayal as a magical girl takes away some of the charm of fans having free reign to depict her however they pleased.

while madoka is the flawless and never sexualized ever masterpiece of a da vinci lord justice says it is, i felt like the first 30 minutes of rebellion were indeed deliberately teasing fans who really liked the idea of "we're magical girls can't we all get along"

# ? Aug 27, 2015 02:12

Lestaki: Nov 6, 2009

Jagchosis posted:

while madoka is the flawless and never sexualized ever masterpiece of a da vinci lord justice says it is, i felt like the first 30 minutes of rebellion were indeed deliberately teasing fans who really liked the idea of "we're magical girls can't we all get along"

My read is that Shinbo and co are a bunch of dorks who also really like that idea and want to portray it, even if they turn away from it in the end to tell a more interesting story. The author's dead and all that but some of the interviews about the movie are pretty interesting in that sense.

quote:

You're saying that you've balanced out the happy world of the first half with the second half, when it's revealed that it was much like a dream.
SHINBO: Part of me felt that our viewers probably wanted to see that kind of world, from the first half. But some people have said that it was precisely the upbeat first half that creeped them out. That wasn't my intention; I just thought that it was nice to see that kind of world, too. But for Madoka Magica fans, that kind of world might be "somehow off or contrived." That was an unexpected effect, but I think that may be why it turned out to be such an unexpected title.

Either way, it's not as if you deliberately set out to create that sense of falseness, right?
SHINBO: That's right. because I wanted to see that scene where everyone's working together in battle. (...)

Would you say that it's because the characters are so well-developed that you can get into that "We can do more!" mode?
SHINBO: The fact that the fans nurtured these characters played a major role in that. We threw something over to them, and the fans threw it back to us. These characters were raised through our game of catch with the fans. It's not that the characters got developed because we created them; they were developed depending on what the fans' reactions to them was. They don't seem like ready-made characters. Being able to do that is one of the virtues of an original title. Without that, we never wouldn't been able to make a sequel film out of nowhere.

And it doesn't have that "We just made this into a movie because the series was so popular" feel, either.
SHINBO: Yes. That's why I think a case could be made that the world of the first half of the story might have been created by the fans. Sayaka and Kyoko battling side by side was also something that the fans wanted to see. We were able to do it because the fans watched the TV series and nurtured these characters. I think Mr. Urobuchi was watching the fans' reactions pretty closely himself. I do believe that it must be reflected in the story. (...)

I think Rebellion has a lot of that kind of 'fanservice' and I don't really see it as particularly ironic or anything.

https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Rebellion_Material_Book Lot more interesting stuff in here.

Ultimately, the movie turns away from that pandering tone and is far better for it in the end, but I do think they embraced the chance to explore, if only in passing, what a happy world where the girls could fight together without trouble would look like.

# ? Aug 27, 2015 02:36

Knorth: Aug 19, 2014; Buglord

Lestaki posted:

My read is that Shinbo and co are a bunch of dorks who also really like that idea and want to portray it, even if they turn away from it in the end to tell a more interesting story. The author's dead and all that but some of the interviews about the movie are pretty interesting in that sense.

I think Rebellion has a lot of that kind of 'fanservice' and I don't really see it as particularly ironic or anything.

https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Rebellion_Material_Book Lot more interesting stuff in here.

Ultimately, the movie turns away from that pandering tone and is far better for it in the end, but I do think they embraced the chance to explore, if only in passing, what a happy world where the girls could fight together without trouble would look like.

Man, everything I've read about Shinbo (which granted, isn't much at all) makes him seem like a pretty cool and chill guy

# ? Aug 27, 2015 02:53

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

trucutru posted:

What are the best meduka ships?

personally I believe that Madoka's dad is precisely what her teacher is looking for. No problems with how he likes his eggs.

Now give her Giorno's hair

# ? Aug 27, 2015 03:23

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

おさげ

I have learned a new word, and a new tag to search on pixiv.

I see that you never watched Ranma 1/2 in its glorious :japan:

version.

# ? Aug 27, 2015 03:40

Just Andi Now: Nov 8, 2009

trucutru posted:

I see that you never watched Ranma 1/2 in its glorious version.

To be fair, osage-no-onna wore a braid and not, uh, the other kind of pigtails.

# ? Aug 27, 2015 04:24

Homura and Sickle: Apr 21, 2013

Lestaki posted:

My read is that Shinbo and co are a bunch of dorks who also really like that idea and want to portray it, even if they turn away from it in the end to tell a more interesting story. The author's dead and all that but some of the interviews about the movie are pretty interesting in that sense.

I think Rebellion has a lot of that kind of 'fanservice' and I don't really see it as particularly ironic or anything.

https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Rebellion_Material_Book Lot more interesting stuff in here.

Ultimately, the movie turns away from that pandering tone and is far better for it in the end, but I do think they embraced the chance to explore, if only in passing, what a happy world where the girls could fight together without trouble would look like.

saw this in that link: