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Lemon Curdistan posted:There is literally no reason why "the Empire's aesthetic" should just be pasting loving TIE panels on everything. The assault gunboat and missile boat fit in just fine. I think the assault gunboat has a problem with pretty much doing the exact same thing as a shuttle.
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Geisladisk posted:Ships within a faction need to have some kind of unified aesthetic to look half decent, or the game will just look like a jumbled mess. Scum gets a pass because it's supposed to be literally a jumbled mess of ships. This is ugly?  Also, no, it wasn't made for X-Wing vs TIE Fighter, it first appeared on TIE Fighter proper and was largely created to enable the campaign to have 'hyper in' missions.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:31
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Wave 7 just got to my FLGS. Can't wait for TLT Y-wings 
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Aug 26, 2015 16:33
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 Aesthetics and visual art direction is important, guys. This is why the Raider looks the way it does and why the Alliance even has ships that look visually similar even though they're "supposed" to have a rag-tag fleet of scum ships.E: lol and of course I should've refreshed. I'm back at Uni now though so I won't be able to have access to the new ships until I visit the other hobby shop that's 30 min away. :/
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Aug 26, 2015 16:34
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I don't disagree with that, but that doesn't mean restricting yourself to TIEs only for imperial starfighters. Depending on the design they use, they can tie in the assault gunboat with the Lambda Shuttle pretty easily.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:39
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Geisladisk posted:Actually they both look stupid. Everything looks stupid 
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Tekopo posted:I don't disagree with that, but that doesn't mean restricting yourself to TIEs only for imperial starfighters. Depending on the design they use, they can tie in the assault gunboat with the Lambda Shuttle pretty easily. I agree. I was mostly still ranting about the K-wing. Once I get my copy I'll have to convert to look like a Star Wars TM ship.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:41
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It makes sense for Rebel ships to have different looks. It's sort of their thing. They fly whatever ships they can pick up from whatever manufacturers have defected.
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I'm sperging out here, forgive me. Well no other ships have visible rockets on the ships. I was going to say no other ships have the dumb ball gunner pods but I just remembered the Republic Gunship has it and that looks all sorts of stupid. So actually the K-wing looks the closest to that republic design and it all looks bad so I guess it's just perfect for canonical star wars. :| (I did say I adore the K-wing's dumb design if you look back at an earlier post from when it was spoiled, as it looks like a majestic pelican and I'll paint it that way, but it looks incredibly stupid)
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Aug 26, 2015 16:47
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Panzeh posted:I think the assault gunboat has a problem with pretty much doing the exact same thing as a shuttle. I will take that over the usual "let's just take some random bullshit and glue TIE panels and an octogonal cockpit window on it" school of design for Imperial stuff.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:48
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I like that that lack of imagination led to the tie crawler. 
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Aug 26, 2015 16:49
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There is sort of the issue that some of the rebel design are post-endor New Republic designs so they are a bit incongruous with the pre-endor 'anything goes as long as it flies' rebels. I'm pretty sure rebels would have been flying r-41 starchasers, t-wings, razor fighters, toscan fighters, pinooks and cloakshapes, but we won't be seeing those unless they end up being Scum ships.
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Chill la Chill posted:I like that that lack of imagination led to the tie crawler. It led to 99% of the EU Imperial designs being pure, unmitigated garbage. 
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Aug 26, 2015 16:50
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Tekopo posted:There is sort of the issue that some of the rebel design are post-endor New Republic designs so they are a bit incongruous with the pre-endor 'anything goes as long as it flies' rebels. I'm pretty sure rebels would have been flying r-41 starchasers, t-wings, razor fighters, toscan fighters, pinooks and cloakshapes, but we won't be seeing those unless they end up being Scum ships. The K-wings cockpit resembles the Y-wing, the previous koensayr design
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Lemon Curdistan posted:It lead to 99% of the EU Imperial designs being pure, unmitigated garbage.
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Still struggling to see something it does differently from a shuttle.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:It led to 99% of the EU Imperial designs being pure, unmitigated garbage.  This loving thing is the absolute loving worst though. A... Advanced, but with Interceptor panels... facing backwards? And a third panel haphazardly added on top???  Chill la Chill posted:If they're all made by SFS, I could see that making sense. Just like how in the US, Lockheed Martin made a sizable number of useful designs and the F-22, F-35, F-117, SR-71, and F-16 all look the same. Well, the F-16, F-22, and F-35 are all very visually similar. But then again, so are almost all modern jet fighters.
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Panzeh posted:Still struggling to see something it does differently from a shuttle. Cause it's not difficult to create a window for it within the meta. The Mist Hunter has shown how.
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Tekopo posted:What, from a gameplay or design perspective? Gameplay. It's a tub with firepower. I don't think FFG is in a hurry to put out another tub with firepower and hp that looks similar to a shuttle.
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Well it is still a fighter, and is on the mid-way of maneuverability so it wouldn't be as slow as the Shuttle. It wouldn't have crew slot, it would have ordnance, there's the potential for FFG to release more beam weapons along with it. There's still a lot of design space.
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Aug 26, 2015 17:09
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The Assault Gunboat would probably be closer to the B-Wing than the Shuttle in terms of gameplay, at least going by how it behaved in the X-Wing series of games.
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Geisladisk posted:The Assault Gunboat would probably be closer to the B-Wing than the Shuttle in terms of gameplay, at least going by how it behaved in the X-Wing series of games. Yeah. It was explicitly the Imperial equivalent of the B-wing in TIE Fighter. If it's basically a B-wing that drops cannon slots for missiles and priced similarly, it would be fine.
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The prosecution rests, your honor.
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Thank god the EU was destroyed.
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What in all the fucks is that? Thank you Disney for nuking the EU. I'm getting stoked to fly a tie punisher from wave 7. I just want to drop bombs in your face and barrel roll away. My dreams of having a kamikaze bomber can come true
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Aug 26, 2015 17:53
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It's DARKSABER, a superweapon created by a Hutt gangster that is literally the superlaser from the death star stripped of everything else.
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Chill la Chill posted:Thank god the EU was destroyed. It's okay, the new canon is going to make up for it: quote:Star Wars: The Force Awakens: Director J.J. Abrams Says Film's Villain Kylo Ren Is Not a Sith
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Lemon Curdistan, notorious space wizard hater.
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Tekopo posted:Lemon Curdistan, notorious space wizard hater. Supreme Leader Snoke.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Supreme Leader Snoke. Darth Vader
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Supreme Leader Snoke. Darth Vader. Palpatine. Skywalker. Lando. Wedge. Organa. Dumb names are Star Wars all over, don't pretend any of those names are cool in a vacuum.
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Yeah but Snoke sounds like snookie, snooker, snack, and snuck. This is like aggressively sillyLemon Curdistan posted:I will take that over the usual "let's just take some random bullshit and glue TIE panels and an octogonal cockpit window on it" school of design for Imperial stuff. Word this TIE bullshit is hilarious stupid and I am probably gonna rip the TIE panels off my Raider when I get one. Best looking ships remain T65 X-wing and Interceptor.  Also the snowspeeder is rad as hell but not a starfighter so shrug
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The StarViper was one of my favorite EU ships. In the Shadows of the Empire game their wing things were all articulated and moved around as they maneuvered, and they looked awesome (for an N64 game). Space squidfighters. It's sad they're so mediocre on the table.
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Saying the film's baddies are gonna be inspired by Nazis is just like, well, no loving poo poo. Snoke is kind of a dumb name but it's still no Count Dooku.
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yellowjournalism posted:Best looking ships remain T65 X-wing and Interceptor. gently caress yeah.
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Kai Tave posted:Saying the film's baddies are gonna be inspired by Nazis is just like, well, no loving poo poo. Full name is Snoke'Oon and he is from Hoth. Man, these EU novels just write themselves!
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Sheev is a good name, right?
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