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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Basebf555 posted:

Not really, Dracula's the only film I've seen of his in that time. Dracula's gotta be the worst though right?

The Card Player is unmitigated bullshit.

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

aw, the Card Player is the one latter-day Argento i kinda like. it's basically him doing a Law & Order episode.

i mean, it's lovely, but it's watchable i guess. i think i made it about a half hour into Mother of Tears.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I kinda like Giallo.

Wilhelm Scream
Apr 1, 2008

The only good stuff Argento has done since...I guess The Stendhal Syndrome...are his two Masters of Horror episodes and even those people aren't thrilled about (Pelts is loving awesome though).

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.
It cannot be stressed how lovely Mother of Tears is.

Count me in on enjoying both his Master of Horror entries.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
I completely forgot about Masters of Horror. While it was a huge hit or miss show, I loved it.

Argento's movies were great. So was "Cigarette Burns" and "The Black Cat".

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I kinda like Giallo.

in theory i'm completely in love with the idea of a giallo movie starring Adrian Brody but you're the first person i've seen express even the most muted positivity about that movie.

re: Masters of Horror, Sick Girl, Black Cat, and Deer Woman were the only ones i cared for. but Sick Girl is dooooooope as fuuuuuuuck

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
It's been a while since I watched Undisputed again, and I'm curious - when did Wesley Snipes' yellow fever take over every role he takes on screen? I mean even in Blade he's using a katana..

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Thanks for the recommendations guy, there are a few I haven't seen. I'll have to check them out.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

now i wish Tombs of the Blind Dead was streaming somewhere because it's actually one of the best horror movies ever made
The first one loving owns. Music owns, creature effects own, film is solid on its own merits (or however you want to say it). But it's also one of those horror films that's a perfect little time capsule of genre style and was the leading edge of a Spanish horror boom of the '70s. And there's the whole thing where the US distributors re-edited the film and put together a nonsensical intro to try to sell it as a sequel to Planet of the Apes (1968) called Revenge From Planet Ape. Which is just about the perfect summary of grindhouse horror right there. I kinda dig the sequels as well, but they're all weaker than the first film (both on their own merits and due to the excessive re-use of footage from the original film).

But man I don't know how prudish you'd have to be to consider it softcore porn. I mean do not look further into Spanish horror films of the '70s if you think Tombs of the Blind Dead (1971) had sex shoehorned into it. Archetypal Spanish lesbian vampire films like Vicente Aranda's The Blood Spattered Bride (1972) or Spanish giallo films (with lesbians) like Jesús Franco's She Killed in Ecstasy (1971) will...well, they'll do whatever films with a bunch of sex shoehorned into them do to people who think Tombs of the Blind Dead has a bunch of sex shoehorned into it. Which I have to assume is not good.

Anyway, all that aside, I was recommending Bava films that are actually available for streaming. And beyond whether or not you end up thinking the films are any good (I do, but I can see where they might not be everyone's cup of tea) but they absolutely are worth knowing just because of the huge reach of Bava and his films on later films and filmmakers. You see echos of Bava in Alien (1979) and Blade Runner (1982) and The Last Temptation of Christ (1988) and Twin Peaks. To say nothing of his influence on Italian giallo and a huge swath of all horror film from the '80s onward. Bava's essential not just because he's good---although he is---but because he's part not just the canon of horror film, but of contemporary film in general.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
I dunno, a pair of Daisy-Duke-looking women get lost and then are exorbitantly and extraordinally-slowly unsuccessful at escaping from a bunch of blind zombies who move slower than my 95 year-old grandma, it seemed like it was literally just a movie about ogling some chicks with nice racks in plaid halter tops, because the undead were in no way threatening or interesting at all.

I lived with a guy for a year or two who was really into all that stuff and I've seen a huge portion if not most of the genre (he owned everything on DVD) and out of all the weird niche horror stuff I've seen, Blind Dead was one of the best examples of the worst that I hate about the genre. I've seen some stylish and interesting camera and light work in boring lesbian vampire softcore horror movies however, blind dead was just boring and slow and over-acted, with bad setpieces and no budget. It felt like a Troma film that believed it was artsy, like Troll 2.

edit: the planet of the apes marketing history is cool and funny and I was already aware of it in excruciatingly-explained detail from my old roommate but I do not see how it makes the film any more watchable.

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Aug 26, 2015

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

coyo7e posted:

I dunno, a pair of Daisy-Duke-looking women get lost and then are exorbitantly and extraordinally-slowly unsuccessful at escaping from a bunch of blind zombies who move slower than my 95 year-old grandma, it seemed like it was literally just a movie about ogling some chicks with nice racks in plaid halter tops, because the undead were in no way threatening or interesting at all.




If you say so. I mean if you don't like the film you don't like the film. That's cool, whatever. But if you think it's put together like a softcore porn you really owe it to yourself to watch better softcore porn. Like the film opens up with some torture (by which the knights gain their immortality) and there's a sexual assault later in the film. Which is what I thought you were talking about. But if a couple of women dressed not particularly provocatively constitutes softcore porn...man, I don't even know.

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

You're certainly allowed to not like Bava films but I'm going to be completely dismissive of your opinion if you do.

Bava owns

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Oops, it was fleur de lis print, not plaid. So sorry!

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica
So basically it's anime.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

coyo7e posted:

Oops, it was fleur de lis print, not plaid. So sorry!

Weird opinions

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer
Noticed last night while getting over a sickness that the selection of Good Eats episodes changed. I can't tell if they've switched over to another collection officially but it looked like the same show listing until I really checked out the episode titles.

Now I'm hungry for so many things...

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I just want more Cutthroat Kitchen :(

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

precision posted:

I just want more Cutthroat Kitchen :(

I wish they'd put up the Chopped: Grilled edition or w/e. It's basically Chopped but you get really unique stuff too.

LogisticEarth
Mar 28, 2004

Someone once told me, "Time is a flat circle".

Thwomp posted:

Noticed last night while getting over a sickness that the selection of Good Eats episodes changed. I can't tell if they've switched over to another collection officially but it looked like the same show listing until I really checked out the episode titles.

Now I'm hungry for so many things...

Yeah, same show listing, but a different 25 episodes. If this is how all the "collection" offerings are handled, that's pretty neat. I was worried we'd only ever get the first episode list and that was it.

Good Eats is a Sunday morning staple with my wife, ha. We cook a big breakfast then watch food science/comedy for half an hour. Helps stave off the inevitable cravings after watching it.

Unless it's one of the cocktail episodes, at which point we end up drinking at 10AM.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer
The only thing that keeps me from getting up and immediately making and consuming everything I see on Good Eats is that, most of the time, it takes some extra step that's a step too far for me.

Like with the Wing show on Netflix now. I watched it last night. His wings look amazing but gently caress it, I'm not building a makeshift wing steamer contraption just so I can have wings. I've heard similar things about his scratch pizza recipe. It's delicious pizza but it takes like 2 days to make.

Edit: That said, his waffle, apple sauce, and stove-top mac and cheese recipes are staples in our house.

Thwomp fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 26, 2015

kuddles
Jul 16, 2006

Like a fist wrapped in blood...
I've become addicted to watching all of Anthony Bourdain's shows since they all are on Netflix. As someone who hasn't travelled nearly as much as he should have at this point in his life, I'm both enthralled and jealous.

No, seriously, I'm jealous. His career for the last 13 or so years has been going all over the world, stuffing his face with amazing food, and bragging about it on camera. gently caress that dude.

iv46vi
Apr 2, 2010

kuddles posted:

I've become addicted to watching all of Anthony Bourdain's shows since they all are on Netflix. As someone who hasn't travelled nearly as much as he should have at this point in his life, I'm both enthralled and jealous.

No, seriously, I'm jealous. His career for the last 13 or so years has been going all over the world, stuffing his face with amazing food, and bragging about it on camera. gently caress that dude.

Not to worry, in his latest show he ascended so far up his own rear end in a top hat it's doubtful we'll ever see him doing normal things again.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

iv46vi posted:

Not to worry, in his latest show he ascended so far up his own rear end in a top hat it's doubtful we'll ever see him doing normal things again.

Yeah, Bourdain bought way too much into his own hype as the "bad boy" of Food Network. And Alton Brown got skinny and born-again Christian.

At least Gordon Ramsay is still pretty cool when he's not playing up his American TV persona.

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

Just watched The Guest on Netflix. Pretty good. Need another thriller that came out in the past few years

dreadnought
Dec 28, 2006

:rolleyes:

iv46vi posted:

Not to worry, in his latest show he ascended so far up his own rear end in a top hat it's doubtful we'll ever see him doing normal things again.

Aw man, I like The Layover, assuming that's what you're talking about. I love how he just doesn't give a gently caress anymore and seems to be just having a good time instead of making Serious Statements about world cultures. It's really entertaining watching him go to a strip club with Alton Brown or getting wasted in Toronto and grabbing poutine with the members of hosed Up. I mean, he does that kind of stuff in NoRes and PU, but I like that he made an entire show out of those moments.

When it first began, I remember a critic billing The Colbert Report as "the beer chaser to the whiskey shot that is The Daily Show," which I think really accurately describes The Layover's relation to Bourdain's more serious shows.

Dred Cosmonaut
Jan 6, 2010

There once was a tiger-striped cat.
No, he means parts unknown, Anthony's cnn show where he makes serious journalism and poo poo

Skizzzer
Sep 27, 2011
I liked the first season but I find him pretty pretentious now, to be honest.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
He's always been a little rich rear end enfant terrible, the bad boy of trust funds and all that.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Star trek renegades is on YouTube. This is a warning rather than a recommendation.

Cocoa Ninja
Mar 3, 2007
I watch Bourdain because I like seeing him talk to locals and go to places other travel shows probably wouldn't (the DRC! Lebanon during the Israeli invasion! Gaza strip!)

He's mellowed quite a bit in his age and is willing to enjoy almost any food if it's served at the right time. I think the episode where he tries to induce heart attack by eating with the two French Canadian chefs was quite amusing, or how he goes to Tokyo and hangs with a world-class sushi chef and goes to weird shows.

Between Parts Unknown and David Cheng's mind of a chef I think they're nice brain-off watches, and way less annoying than, say, VICE's MUNCHIES hipster crap.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Jesus, VICE Munchies.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

SubG posted:

If you say so. I mean if you don't like the film you don't like the film. That's cool, whatever. But if you think it's put together like a softcore porn you really owe it to yourself to watch better softcore porn. Like the film opens up with some torture (by which the knights gain their immortality) and there's a sexual assault later in the film. Which is what I thought you were talking about. But if a couple of women dressed not particularly provocatively constitutes softcore porn...man, I don't even know.
ahh yes i see. because societal trends and opinions about what is decent versus what is indecent have not changed at all in the last 40 or 50 years

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

coyo7e posted:

ahh yes i see. because societal trends and opinions about what is decent versus what is indecent have not changed at all in the last 40 or 50 years

you uh don't have much of a clue do you

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

you uh don't have much of a clue do you
you ought to get together with my roommate that I kicked out. He also watched a ton of 60s-70s horror films and didn't wash regularly, in between literally blowing up my speakers playing Grateful Dead cover bands while I was at work. perhaps you have a different definition of "exploitation film" than I do

edit: IMDB reviews include "wasn't there a scene where a zombie grabbed a woman's err umm uhh-boob?" and "every woman in this movie was beautiful... except" no sexualization going on at all in this otherwise boring-as-gently caress film yup

coyo7e fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Aug 28, 2015

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe
I watched Hardware last night. It was I think the third time I've seen it. I didn't really care for it the first time I watched it, but it's really grown on me for some reason. I guess just because it's so different. The only I things I can think of that are even close are Death Machine or possibly Virus. It's got some nice gore, a neat setting, a drunk cameo from Lemmy, and I liked that the big tough hero guy is actually kind of an incompetent schmuck.

I also watched Lost Souls as well, and wow. I knew Dr. Moreau had a troubled production but that was sheer insanity. I love that you can pick the exact moment things go off the rails when Richard Stanley says "Marlin Brando". On a base level though it seems similar to what happened with the new Fantastic Four movie. The studio hired an upcoming high concept young director to make a popcorn flick and then lost their poo poo when the director started to do his thing. Like what the heck did you expect? Why hire them in the first place? They're weren't exactly shy about saying exactly what it is they want do with the movie.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
There is simply nothing quite like Hardware.

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.
The first time I watched Hardware and the loving opera kicked in as a character died while experiencing the equivalent of an acid trip was certainly amazing and confounding.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

There is simply nothing quite like Hardware.

Tetsuo: The Iron Man :colbert:

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Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.

precision posted:

Tetsuo: The Iron Man :colbert:

Tetsuo rules but it and Hardware aren't anything alike really.

Tetsuo made me incredibly uncomfortable and I appreciate that.

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