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Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

this is why those swings scare me more than any roller coaster

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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

chitoryu12 posted:

If that were the case, it would probably be an OSHA violation to have police officers engage with any kind of violent people in the first place.

Looking at it: They haven't made specific rules, but it falls under "workplace violence". It's covered covered by their very wide general duty clause ("Each employer shall furnish to each of his employees employment and a place of employment which are free from recognized hazards that are causing or are likely to cause death or serious physical harm to his employees"), and as I understand it, it would be an OSHA violation if you failed to provide police officers with adequate training and equipment to mitigate the risks.

In other news, reading foreign workplace safety rulings at 03:40 is not something I typically do.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro

Pornographic Memory posted:

this is why those swings scare me more than any roller coaster

Can you imagine getting your neck broken against the rear end of some wayward 200lb tourist dude just gliding through the air? A shameful death.

ncumbered_by_idgits
Sep 20, 2008

Plumps posted:

Re: gas cylinder talk.



This has been posted here before and it's really no big deal. I'm selling to bet it happens hundreds of times around the world every single day.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

ncumbered_by_idgits posted:

This has been posted here before and it's really no big deal. I'm selling to bet it happens hundreds of times around the world every single day.

Counterpoint: there was a time when thousands of people worked next to exposed machinery that routinely mangled them and most people considered it "no big deal." Or to put it another way: just because showering flammable or potentially-flammable things with red-hot bits of oxidizing metal shards is completely routine and commonplace, doesn't mean it's not also dangerous and unnecessary and responsible for hundreds of (usually minor) accidents and injuries per year.

ncumbered_by_idgits
Sep 20, 2008

Leperflesh posted:

Counterpoint: there was a time when thousands of people worked next to exposed machinery that routinely mangled them and most people considered it "no big deal." Or to put it another way: just because showering flammable or potentially-flammable things with red-hot bits of oxidizing metal shards is completely routine and commonplace, doesn't mean it's not also dangerous and unnecessary and responsible for hundreds of (usually minor) accidents and injuries per year.

Agreed, I just think it's one of those things people see and immediately freak out about. It's really difficult to gently caress up a cylinder unless the head gets knocked off. The things are made like tanks.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Safety is all about planning for the one in a million chance the packing on the cylinder valve is leaky. More applicable is just hot work best practices in that case since the sparks don't need to be aimed at the cylinder for that to go wrong.

The cylinder is a striking if reactionary example of the best practice of spark containment as near to the source as feasible. More often because, as Solid Snake has taught us, its impossible to notice a cardboard box out of place until its too late.

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000


Is the person still in the swing? I can't really tell from the gif.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

So this is a show that exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsNfe6I7PhE

It seems potentially related to the thread

A Real Happy Camper
Dec 11, 2007

These children have taught me how to believe.

Maneki Neko posted:

Is the person still in the swing? I can't really tell from the gif.

yes because you can see them continue on the ride, and also because only one frame is cloned to make it look like theyre falling

H2SO4
Sep 11, 2001

put your money in a log cabin


Buglord

Tony Homo posted:

I think the video of the guy shooting the cameraman and reporter should be in this thread. It must be an OSHA violation of some kind:

wow man you're so edgy, great post

edit: two times even, how magnificent

pillsburysoldier posted:

So this is a show that exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsNfe6I7PhE

It seems potentially related to the thread


This show has some pretty great moments, but the co-host dude gets on my nerves sometimes.

H2SO4 fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Aug 27, 2015

Lord Zedd-Repulsa
Jul 21, 2007

Devour a good book.



I have had nightmares about this and other carnival ride disasters happening.

ghosTTy
Sep 22, 2008


That's very real and not a bad edit.

Vulpes
Nov 13, 2002

Well, shit.

ThePriceIsRight posted:

That's very real and not a bad edit.

Frankly I'm more concerned about the person that magically appears out of thin air on one of the seats.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro
I don't think Adam Corolla is funny (I think he looks and sounds like the Frankenstein monster) but I've seen a few episodes of that and it can be pretty great watching these shitbags get called out and have to justify their inexcusably sloppy work.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Plumps posted:

Re: gas cylinder talk.



*starts backing away slowly, breaks into run half a second later*

goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Aug 27, 2015

Ambrose Burnside
Aug 30, 2007

pensive

bitcoin bastard posted:

*starts backing away slowly, breaks into run half a second later*

It's definitely not best practice and would earn you a "dude, move your poo poo" pretty promptly in any decent shop, but it's also definitely not a Holy gently caress Run Away thing. Grinder sparks are no big and there's no part of an oxyfuel outfit, not even the hoses, that should be vulnerable, but if there were a leaky fitting or regulator somewhere in there it could be bad news.

like i've basically done that, went to use an acetylene torch assuming the last user that day set poo poo up properly, but they had forgotten to tighten a nut somewhere downstream of the torch and had someone else's hot work set the leak on fire, and: a little candle flame burned at the juncture, was promptly noticed and extinguished, joint was tightened and leak-tested. if it had been a heavy gas that accumulated in a low spot or if it had burned for a long time unnoticed and heated the brass fittings up to the point where theyd start melting the hose or whatever it could have been very bad, but observing basic situational awareness and other safety procedures (beyond the failed "check connections before using torch", my bad) acts as a check against that.

Ambrose Burnside fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Aug 27, 2015

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



bitcoin bastard posted:

*starts backing away slowly, breaks into run half a second later*
No, no no.

*kicks it*

*rolls it over and kicks it again*

I'm Crap
Aug 15, 2001

Pornographic Memory posted:

this is why those swings scare me more than any roller coaster
you must be pretty g-d stupid to think that's real lmoa

5er
Jun 1, 2000


I'm Crap posted:

you must be pretty g-d stupid to think that's real lmoa

Do you really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and lie?

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX8cuGiQb4Y

He should probably be using a harness...

Melian Dialogue
Jan 9, 2015

NOT A RACIST

pillsburysoldier posted:

So this is a show that exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsNfe6I7PhE

It seems potentially related to the thread

Do they actually setup the stings themselves (i.e. they hire a guy, and see its an objectively lovely job and call him out) or do they get people to call in their experiences with a contractor?

Because if its the latter, how do you prevent the he said/she said bullshit? Like, in this clip, how do I know this contractor actually hosed that couple over, or if that couple actively hosed him over on the deal? We just take the word of the couple? I mean, there are probably equally pieces of poo poo contractors and piece of poo poo homeowners out there so, call me skeptical.

Tony Homo posted:

NMS? Nws? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=225_1440602498

Gun mans video taped himself shooting the journalists. A clear OSHA violation of privacy.

Did he miss that first shot? It looks like he missed the first shot, and it was like point blank.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Elendil004 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX8cuGiQb4Y

He should probably be using a harness...

this is pretty outstanding, good for him

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Melian Dialogue posted:

Do they actually setup the stings themselves (i.e. they hire a guy, and see its an objectively lovely job and call him out) or do they get people to call in their experiences with a contractor?

Because if its the latter, how do you prevent the he said/she said bullshit? Like, in this clip, how do I know this contractor actually hosed that couple over, or if that couple actively hosed him over on the deal? We just take the word of the couple? I mean, there are probably equally pieces of poo poo contractors and piece of poo poo homeowners out there so, call me skeptical.


Did he miss that first shot? It looks like he missed the first shot, and it was like point blank.

If you see some of the work these so called contractors have done, its pretty obvious they are full of poo poo/ in over their head.

H2SO4
Sep 11, 2001

put your money in a log cabin


Buglord

JB50 posted:

If you see some of the work these so called contractors have done, its pretty obvious they are full of poo poo/ in over their head.

Exactly. I recall seeing an episode where the owners fed the show a line of BS, they got the contractor and the real story came out.

For the rest, you can absolutely tell that the "contractors" have no clue what they're doing, things are massively unsafe, etc. They don't go out to a house with an addition that's perfect except the paint's not finished; they show up to an addition that's built using scrap wood, wiring that's completely hosed, etc.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

H2SO4 posted:

Exactly. I recall seeing an episode where the owners fed the show a line of BS, they got the contractor and the real story came out.

For the rest, you can absolutely tell that the "contractors" have no clue what they're doing, things are massively unsafe, etc. They don't go out to a house with an addition that's perfect except the paint's not finished; they show up to an addition that's built using scrap wood, wiring that's completely hosed, etc.

The amount of exposed live wire ends sticking out of walls on that show is insane. Lots of mold/black mold as well.

Make sure you hire a reputable LICENSED contractor people!

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

why did no one tell me there was a Groverhaus: The Series

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Melian Dialogue posted:

Did he miss that first shot? It looks like he missed the first shot, and it was like point blank.

This isn't really the place for this video, but he hit her easily. Gunshot wounds in real life don't look anything like they do in movies, to the point where people are actually conditioned to think that real shootings are fake because they don't look like how media depicts it. Most gunshot wounds don't even bleed substantially until a second or so after the hit (as opposed to the Hollywood blood squirt or big puff of dust from their shirt), so the most you often see is just their shirt fluttering a little from the impact....then the blood starts to stain and pool around the body.

And unless the wound is instantly incapacitating, it's actually pretty common for people to not even have an immediate pain reaction. People who are shot often run, flinch, or begin fighting back before the damage finally causes them to collapse. If he hit in such a way that she would drop instantly you would have seen her fall over, but the Hollywood depiction is just actors intentionally flailing and falling on command. Adrenaline plays a big part, and many people interviewed after the fact have said that they didn't even notice their injuries until either the attack was over or the damage finally becomes so great that they collapse and can't figure out why. Until the pain comes in.

This even occurs with gunshot wounds to the head that don't cause immediate, massive destruction. A .45 ACP or 9mm round to the head at point blank, and at first glance the person's legs just give out and they crumple to the ground. It takes a second for any bleeding, unless the damage is so severe that it actually blows the head apart.

So yes, even in the "sanitized" version that all the news stations showed where she just screams and runs, she's being shot. The scream and jump is a reaction to the gunshot and likely the initial feeling of impact. She probably fell over mid-stride as if she tripped when she was off camera.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
Not to single you out, but I wish I had a dollar for every time someone in this thread posted a lengthy, analytical explanation of a seemingly obvious thing. I'd have a lot of dollars.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
If people never needed seemingly obvious things to be explained to them, this thread would have a helluva lot less in the way of content.

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




Elendil004 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX8cuGiQb4Y

He should probably be using a harness...
I assume access to those thing is usually locked and that doesn't look like a worker but either way it seems like someone would get fired.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Baller Witness Bro posted:

Not to single you out, but I wish I had a dollar for every time someone in this thread posted a lengthy, analytical explanation of a seemingly obvious thing. I'd have a lot of dollars.

I'll single him out as wishing he'd shut the gently caress up Jesus Christ we know you like your precious firearms you baby

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

whitey delenda est posted:

I'll single him out as wishing he'd shut the gently caress up Jesus Christ we know you like your precious firearms you baby

Maybe I'm the gun apologist but I'm pretty sure you're the one with a black man with a gun in your avatar.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

CampingCarl posted:

I assume access to those thing is usually locked and that doesn't look like a worker but either way it seems like someone would get fired.

Dunno, I visited a farm once and the farmer had his own wind turbine. It was built by a company that builds the ones for power companies as well, but this was private so he had free electricity (and could sell left-over electricity back to the power company). It was a relatively small one. The farmer invited us to take a look inside the thing, and he just had a key to the door. Inside, at the bottom of the tower, there was a floor with a hatch a few feet above us, and beyond that hatch I could see a ladder start. So if he had given us a way to get up through that hatch, we could've climbed all the way to the top. He told us that nobody was allowed to go up there without a safety harness, and especially not untrained people like ourselves, so that was all we saw.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Guys I think that video clip by notoriously-reliable journalists at The Mirror might not be entirely truthful and honest!!!

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

ncumbered_by_idgits posted:

Agreed, I just think it's one of those things people see and immediately freak out about. It's really difficult to gently caress up a cylinder unless the head gets knocked off. The things are made like tanks.

Last time I was at welding supply yard, while I was waiting for my bottles, I happened to glance down at an empty in their post-hydro receiving area. Freshly painted, looked new, except for a HILARIOUSLY long line of hydro dates. The first one was nineteen fifty-nine.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

whitey delenda est posted:

I'll single him out as wishing he'd shut the gently caress up Jesus Christ we know you like your precious firearms you baby

At least he's not LeJackal.

Some of the Sheep
May 25, 2005
POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE SIMPLER IF I ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE HARMLESS CREATURES OF THE AFORESAID CONTINENT?

Leperflesh posted:

Guys I think that video clip by notoriously-reliable journalists at The Mirror might not be entirely truthful and honest!!!

It's a video of a guy in shorts and a tee-shirt with his shoes off laying prone on top of a wind turbine. Where's the dishonesty?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


H2SO4 posted:

Exactly. I recall seeing an episode where the owners fed the show a line of BS, they got the contractor and the real story came out.

For the rest, you can absolutely tell that the "contractors" have no clue what they're doing, things are massively unsafe, etc. They don't go out to a house with an addition that's perfect except the paint's not finished; they show up to an addition that's built using scrap wood, wiring that's completely hosed, etc.

You could watch the BBC show it's based off but it's very British

Also the co-presenter got jailed for fraud

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Some of the Sheep posted:

It's a video of a guy in shorts and a tee-shirt with his shoes off laying prone on top of a wind turbine. Where's the dishonesty?

I'm just saying there's at least a small chance he's been put there via special effects.

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