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Aleph Null posted:By "improved" do you mean "improvised?" Yes. But no, not necessarily, unless you're just correcting my grammar. I was just pointing out the difference between improvised, in the moment, lines of dialogue as opposed to ones that reek of marketing opportunities and that are intended to become catch phrases and used in ads. I know it's irrational.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 00:34 |
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Vulpes posted:If she'd survived, the whole movie would have been about 'protect Newt' rather than 'hunt the Alien'. The only reason that worked in Aliens is because while Ripley was being protective, you had the gung-ho USCM to keep things interesting. Maybe, but in the early versions of the script where Newt survived, Hicks did too, so it wouldn't be just a whole movie of Ripley trying to protect Newt.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 01:39 |
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A funny thing about Alien 3 is that because of rules about image use Michael Biehn was able to demand to be paid just as much for his picture appearing on a screen as he was for the entirety of Aliens.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 01:52 |
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Aleph Null posted:The Alien reboot by Neill Blomkamp (of District 9 fame) is supposed to fix that by pretending Alien 3 and 4 never happened. I'm not sure how they will handle Newt to be honest.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 02:10 |
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There are more terrible Alien movies than there are good ones at this point. e. I kind of like the alternate cut Alien 3.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:22 |
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Aleph Null posted:
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:25 |
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QUACKTASTIC posted:e. I kind of like the alternate cut Alien 3.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:28 |
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Aleph Null posted:By "improved" do you mean "improvised?" Oh please just because she's black and lives off the material earnings of the collective and has waaay too many kids, that automatically makes her uppity?
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 07:20 |
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Just because they are a LITERAL parasitic species does NOT, in FACT, make them loving PARASITES. GodDAMNit.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 07:30 |
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Bug Lives Matter
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 07:30 |
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Actually it is a very progressive movie because the marines don't care about gender when they gently caress Arcturians
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 09:02 |
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Aphrodite posted:Not really, that's just his thing from the comics. Which is why the real irritating bit is when he says "We are Groot". Groot's race speak a highly complex language which as I recall is semi-telepathic, but human ears can only interpret anything said in it as "I am Groot". By adding "We are Groot" to the dialogue, they changed Groot from an intelligent creature beyond human understanding to a dumb plant with a three word vocabulary.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 09:47 |
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Jedit posted:Which is why the real irritating bit is when he says "We are Groot". Groot's race speak a highly complex language which as I recall is semi-telepathic, but human ears can only interpret anything said in it as "I am Groot". By adding "We are Groot" to the dialogue, they changed Groot from an intelligent creature beyond human understanding to a dumb plant with a three word vocabulary. Or he perfectly understands the primitive many-words-language the barbarians around him speak and chose that moment to lower himself to their level as a sign of affection.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 09:55 |
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Snapchat A Titty posted:Actually it is a very progressive movie because the marines don't care about gender when they gently caress Arcturians Apparently that was improvised as well.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 13:02 |
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Jedit posted:Which is why the real irritating bit is when he says "We are Groot". Groot's race speak a highly complex language which as I recall is semi-telepathic, but human ears can only interpret anything said in it as "I am Groot". By adding "We are Groot" to the dialogue, they changed Groot from an intelligent creature beyond human understanding to a dumb plant with a three word vocabulary. Is that really the case or is that just what that semi-insane dude whose name is escaping me (Maximilian?) said in one comic?
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 13:33 |
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Mission Impossible Rogue Nation was pretty drat good overall, but i did have a gripe that i also had in the new Avengers Movie. They really need to do a large fake-out with them pretending to film Iron Man 4 or something and then kill him off and cancel the next movie they are supposed to be in. They could use the footage in another marvel film as a dream sequence or something so it doesn't go to waste.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 14:47 |
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Polaron posted:Is that really the case or is that just what that semi-insane dude whose name is escaping me (Maximilian?) said in one comic? In Groot's first appearances he could talk normally but he was eventually killed and came back as a smaller cutting (like in the movie.) It was only after he came back that all he said was his catchphrase.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 14:54 |
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Mission Impossible Rogue Nation was pretty drat good overall, but i did have a gripe that i also had in the new Avengers Movie. For Mission Impossible, I was more annoyed at that they couldn't use metal oxygen tanks to breath under the water, and then they never bothered to find an alternate plastic solution. There was no way he could carry at least a little bit of air in a plastic container? I know, it's a movie and all and they had to make it suspenseful, I guess.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 15:11 |
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Gremlins: What if they are eating and get something stuck in their teeth? Like a poppy seed or whatever. If it's still there at midnight do they transform? What if they are eating in a plane at 11 pm and cross a time zone? Does that count?
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 15:32 |
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Gremlins: More importantly when does "after midnight" end? Sunrise? 6am?
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 15:37 |
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Gremlins: To be fair, what the gently caress does 'after midnight' even mean? Is 6 am still 'after midnight'? Maybe when the sun comes up (would've been better to say "don't feed them in the darkness" or something)? e: goddamnit man, your gremlins arguing is faster than mine.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 15:41 |
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Gremlins 2 asks those questions and then has a sudden, unexpected attack as if to say, "what the gently caress is wrong with you? They give birth by getting wet, for Christ's sake. Stop thinking and enjoy the movie."
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 16:03 |
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Jedit posted:Which is why the real irritating bit is when he says "We are Groot". Groot's race speak a highly complex language which as I recall is semi-telepathic, but human ears can only interpret anything said in it as "I am Groot". By adding "We are Groot" to the dialogue, they changed Groot from an intelligent creature beyond human understanding to a dumb plant with a three word vocabulary. Or his meaning was clear enough that humans could understand it more clearly/differently than his other lines.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 16:27 |
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The movie kind of implies he actually is kind of dumb, and none of the telepathic stuff.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 16:43 |
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Memento posted:It's not that it adds not much to the narrative, it's that it disrupts the flow of the movie as a journey into madness completely. There's such a disconnect between that scene and making a friend of horror that it's jarring.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 16:53 |
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Aphrodite posted:The movie kind of implies he actually is kind of dumb, and none of the telepathic stuff. Well not entirely. When Quinn says he has like 23% of a plan, Groot responds, and Rocket replies to Groot "So what if it's better than 22%?".
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 16:54 |
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Aphrodite posted:The movie kind of implies he actually is kind of dumb, and none of the telepathic stuff. Hey now, during their prison break, thanks to his quick thinking, he's the first one to retrieve one of the parts Rocket needed to get them out
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 16:55 |
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IUG posted:Well not entirely. When Quinn says he has like 23% of a plan, Groot responds, and Rocket replies to Groot "So what if it's better than 22%?". I thought it was not so much telepathy as Rocket learning his language. Wasn't the gimmick that Groot spoke a full and complete language full of subtle tones, but to a human every single sentence just sounded like " I am Groot"?
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 18:32 |
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In the comics, yes. In the movies it's only addressed as "Well he don't know talkin' good like me and you, so his vocabulistics is limited to "I" and "am" and "Groot," exclusively in that order."
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 18:34 |
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The person who said that is completely fucken insane
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 18:49 |
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He gave that child a flower and it was very sweet
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 18:57 |
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EmmyOk posted:He gave that child a flower and it was very sweet
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:08 |
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Groot clearly understands what people are saying he just doesnt always give a poo poo cuz hes a big tree man.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:18 |
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Groot is literally tree Chewbacca.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 20:04 |
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Chewbarka
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My Lovely Horse posted:Chewbarka Thank you.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 20:27 |
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Live Die Repeat, that the movie kept going after Cage destroys the alien brain ball and dies instead of immediately going to the news reports and end credits.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 20:42 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:Groot is literally tree Chewbacca. I was gonna post this earlier but then didn't. Its a giant Chewbacca joke guys, comeon.
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# ? Aug 28, 2015 21:03 |
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MariusLecter posted:Live Die Repeat, that the movie kept going after Cage destroys the alien brain ball and dies instead of immediately going to the news reports and end credits. Agreed! I thought it was a generally well-done film, with excellent practical effects and a cool take on the Groundhog Day gimmick. Then it fell prey to Hollywood's love of happy endings. Granted, the setup to the original book's ending was almost incomprehensible - temporal lightning rods or whatever. It's not like the movie was leading up to a sequel, they should have just cut off after the fight. Tom Hanks' death in Saving Private Ryan didn't somehow cripple it at the box office. My gripe: absurd slo-mo fights when the characters aren't in a Matrix movie. I watched a trailer for the new Transporter movie, and it was nonstop slow motion and dudes moving and reacting faster than any human could.
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The whole point of the movie is second chances, though.
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