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SedanChair posted:You busybodies are so violent. It's probably why you think guns need to be controlled, because you would commit violence with them. What are you going to do if you're attacked? Gently rub your pistol against your assailants cheek? I know guns are a sexual thing for you but that's taking it a little far, don't you think?
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Mr. Wookums posted:Recently some owners have been using it on their family first. now this is more cost-effective, I wonder if this recent rise in thrifty thinking is tied to the economy making people more conscientious about stretching their dollar
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Aug 29, 2015 16:26
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the number one threat to gun owning americans is gun owning americans, who are increasingly putting down those threats with a single shot. this level of accuracy and thrift should be celebrated, and confirms that americans are the finest marksmen in the world
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Aug 29, 2015 16:28
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Who What Now posted:What are you going to do if you're attacked? Gently rub your pistol against your assailants cheek? I know guns are a sexual thing for you but that's taking it a little far, don't you think? i didn't and don't carry around guns for defense but when a guy busted into my house, jumped someone in bed, and started strangling them the presence of a shotgun was highly conducive to the whole thing ending in a civil conversation about appropriate conflict management on the living room couch most defensive gun uses don't end in a body, and imo they're much better and safer persuasive tools than a knife or your bare hands or whatnot
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Aug 29, 2015 16:29
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when a seven year old defends himself into the face of another seven year old with his father's self-defense tool, you should reserve judgement. the kid who got shot could have been a huge prick, you don't know
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Aug 29, 2015 16:40
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:i didn't and don't carry around guns for defense but when a guy busted into my house, jumped someone in bed, and started strangling them the presence of a shotgun was highly conducive to the whole thing ending in a civil conversation about appropriate conflict management on the living room couch Yes, that sure is a thing that totally happened.
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Aug 29, 2015 16:55
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oh cool now we're on to the not totally sad 'i find people who have relevant experience politically inconvenient therefore they don't exist' stage of the show
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Aug 29, 2015 16:58
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Mods can we replace the word "GUN" with a gun emoji in the title please?
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Aug 29, 2015 17:00
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America really is unique on guns though because any attempt to institute Australian style gun control would result in an Iraqi-style insurgency, if the insurgents ever numbered more than 5,000 or so. Of course our superior military won an uncontested victory over there so I say let's do this thang.
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Aug 29, 2015 17:11
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:oh cool now we're on to the not totally sad 'i find people who have relevant experience politically inconvenient therefore they don't exist' stage of the show How is your masturbation fantasy politically inconvenient to me? I don't care what gets you off man, it's all good.
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Aug 29, 2015 17:11
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Mr.Bob posted:They say not suitable for hunting because they are full metal jacket. FMJ bullets are usually restricted from being used in hunting due to over penetraion in the game animal and not causing enough of a wound cavity to humanely kill the animal quickly. That doesn't change the point I'm making. Just because they say target on them doesn't change the function of the gun shooting them. Which is why bean bags, despite being "less than lethal", still loving hurt. Because the instrument being used to fire said bean bag is trying to kill you and the only thing stopping it is the ammunition they put in the gun first. Also, I don't think guns should be banned for the same reason drugs shouldn't be. Guns are tools and require an agent to use. But so are cars, planes, and many other things that require training and licenses. Owning a weapon shouldn't be a right, it's a privilege showing you're not a lunatic.
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Aug 29, 2015 17:19
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Who What Now posted:How is your masturbation fantasy politically inconvenient to me? I don't care what gets you off man, it's all good. i can get u a police report if you want but that's asking me to spend like an hour on the phone to win an internet argument so i'll need you to toxx to never attempt sarcasm again if I do, because your posting is mega stinko dogshit
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Aug 29, 2015 17:22
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DeusExMachinima posted:America really is unique on guns though because any attempt to institute Australian style gun control would result in an Iraqi-style insurgency, if the insurgents ever numbered more than 5,000 or so. Of course our superior military won an uncontested victory over there so I say let's do this thang. It probably wouldn't. There would be isolated cases but you have to remember that when gun fanboys start threatening murder and insurrection at the drop of a hat if their toy selection is even hypothetically limited, they're not revolutionaries making demands, they're fat teenagers brooding in their room about how if they take my Xbox I swear I'll burn this loving house down
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Aug 29, 2015 17:31
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various cheeses posted:Hello fellow cheese. It's the former, but the latter never hurts. You should only carry a gun with a quality holster that protects the trigger from being accidentally pulled. Carrying a loaded gun without a holster is a very bad idea. Fog Tripper posted:One less thing to think about when you are under stress and have more important details to pay attention to. Like identifying your target, making certain nothing behind it is in danger if you misd or it passes through the target. Oh, and because carrying without one in the chamber is asinine.
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Aug 29, 2015 17:32
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:i can get u a police report if you want but that's asking me to spend like an hour on the phone to win an internet argument so i'll need you to toxx to never attempt sarcasm again if I do, because your posting is mega stinko dogshit Like I said, I really don't care what you do. If you want to spend time 'shopping up a "police report" be my guest. I'd still like to know how you think this would be "politically inconvenient" for me, though.
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Aug 29, 2015 17:36
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buk-buk-bawwwk-ba-bawwwwk-BAWK
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Aug 29, 2015 17:37
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cheese posted:This is probably where we talk about Glock Leg. You need two hands to load the chamber. You don't get to say "hold on pal, let me load my gun first".
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Aug 29, 2015 17:41
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various cheeses posted:You need two hands to load the chamber. You don't get to say "hold on pal, let me load my gun first". you're probably also not doing the shootout at high noon either tho your life but I defo wouldn't want a gun with one in the chamber riding right next to my junk all day and I'd feel real loving stupid explaining the highly specific hypothetical scenario that lead to my having to piss through a tube
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Aug 29, 2015 17:44
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:you're probably also not doing the shootout at high noon either tho I'd never appendix carry a gun with one in the chamber either. Most of those glock leg incidents occur during holstering, and having it already pointed at my junk is a big no.
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Aug 29, 2015 17:50
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various cheeses posted:You need two hands to load the chamber. You don't get to say "hold on pal, let me load my gun first".
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Aug 29, 2015 18:00
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cheese posted:Again, it sounds like you are really envisioning a tactical scenario here that I just can't wrap my mind around occurring. Are your hands zip tied because you are a hostage in a bank robbery or something? It seems like a big increase in the risk of negligent discharge to improve a fantasy scenario that won't happen. I mean, have you installed a roll cage in your car to improve your odds of surviving a car crash? A man walks up and grabs your left arm. Your gun is now a paperweight. It's not some fantastical james bond scenario.
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Aug 29, 2015 18:02
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cheese posted:I mean, have you installed a roll cage in your car to improve your odds of surviving a car crash? how much would this cost, hypothetically the cowpusher was no go cause apparently my state hates joy but I bet I could do this
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Aug 29, 2015 18:03
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:you're probably also not doing the shootout at high noon either tho Yeah I don't fancy it. I don't even like to chamber a round if I am somewhere where an ND would be troublesome (i.e. my apartment). Another reason I am fond of revolvers (not that there is anything wrong with autos, please leave me alone auto fanboys).
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Aug 29, 2015 18:04
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various cheeses posted:A man walks up and grabs your left arm.
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Aug 29, 2015 18:06
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cheese posted:Good call, better to have the round chambered so you can empty your clip into "man who walked up to you and grabbed your left arm". Assuming he is going to rob/assault/murder you, yes I think you're figuring it out.
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Aug 29, 2015 18:07
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:how much would this cost, hypothetically various cheeses posted:Assuming he is going to rob/assault/murder you, yes I think you're figuring it out.
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Aug 29, 2015 18:08
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cheese posted:I don't know, 10 grand? gently caress that then what'd a mounted harpoon gun run me, assume an 02 accord
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Aug 29, 2015 18:09
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I'm really not trying to pick a fight fellow cheese guy, I'm just trying to understand the way people view safety and the things they will do to feel safe. Risk vs reward and all that. Carrying your glock with a round in the chamber feels like a huge increase in risk for me without a significant reward. I've been trying to find data on concealed carry but its very difficult. I wonder how often a concealed handgun turns a drunk tailgate argument or purse snatching into a homicide. A Wizard of Goatse posted:gently caress that then what'd a mounted harpoon gun run me, assume an 02 accord
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Aug 29, 2015 18:12
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i sorta always envisioned a guy riding on the roof to aim and reload it but I see your point, I'll have to consider this further
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Aug 29, 2015 18:14
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various cheeses posted:A man walks up and grabs your left arm. So hit him with the gun. It's a block of metal, not papier-mâché. EDIT SedanChair posted:Yeah I don't fancy it. I don't even like to chamber a round if I am somewhere where an ND would be troublesome (i.e. my apartment). Another reason I am fond of revolvers (not that there is anything wrong with autos, please leave me alone auto fanboys). Revolvers are clearly the superior firearm based simply on being so much classier. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Aug 29, 2015 |
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Aug 29, 2015 18:17
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various cheeses posted:Assuming he is going to rob/assault/murder you, yes I think you're figuring it out. i too carry a loaded weapon on the assumption that people who touch my body need to be immediately killed
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Aug 29, 2015 18:20
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why are gun people so terrified of others, it would be sad if it wasn't pathetic
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Aug 29, 2015 18:20
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If you've already been grabbed you're hosed anyway, chambered round or not. "Excuse me, my frightful fellow, as I fumble at my holster for a few moments to retrieve my pistol. Oh bother the clasp seems to be a bit stuck. I say, stop stabbing me this instant, I asked you quite nicely to wait!"
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Aug 29, 2015 18:22
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Popular Thug Drink posted:i too carry a loaded weapon on the assumption that people who touch my body need to be immediately killed i know you haven't seen me but it is in fact inconceivable that someone would voluntarily touch me without malign intent and gloves
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Aug 29, 2015 18:26
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various cheeses posted:A man walks up and grabs your left arm. You know how to use the sights to chamber a round one handed right
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Aug 29, 2015 18:26
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SedanChair posted:You know how to use the sights to chamber a round one handed right i'm pretty sure that the guy who shudders at the thought of human contact knows 'how to chamber a round one handed'
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Aug 29, 2015 18:28
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a truly defense-minded indivudual maintains a protective layer of grease, sweat, and lubricated dirt at all time to render themselves invulnerable to grappling\Popular Thug Drink posted:i'm pretty sure that the guy who shudders at the thought of human contact knows 'how to chamber a round one handed' lol
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cheese posted:I'm really not trying to pick a fight fellow cheese guy, I'm just trying to understand the way people view safety and the things they will do to feel safe. Risk vs reward and all that. Carrying your glock with a round in the chamber feels like a huge increase in risk for me without a significant reward. My bad, I assumed you weren't looking for an actual discussion like the majority of the dipshits here. You aren't wrong in that a loaded gun is orders of magnitude more dangerous than an unloaded one. The problem is you may not get ample time to load it, and when you do, you're brandishing it. An already loaded gun is simply there and ready to go. When I carry mine while hiking or something, I leave it in the holster and don't mess with it - the trigger guard is completely enclosed. Then when I get home, I unload it and everything is cool. I never keep guns loaded when they aren't being actively carried in a holster. Who What Now posted:Revolvers are clearly the superior firearm based simply on being so much classier. Counterpoint:  SedanChair posted:You know how to use the sights to chamber a round one handed right Yeah but that is way more difficult and is still an added step.
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Aug 29, 2015 18:29
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:a truly defense-minded indivudual maintains a protective layer of grease, sweat, and lubricated dirt at all time to render themselves invulnerable to grappling leet kune do 
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The exact point where preparedness turns into paranoia in the gunfucker's mind is a fascinating thing. Keeping a round chambered is excessively reasonable, but I'm pretty sure trading in that Glock for a dart pistol loaded with cocktails of extremely painful and extremely deadly venoms would constitute an armchair diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder.
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