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Zeris posted:russia.jpg http://imgur.com/a/PQrcu quote:The Russian is not a communist, my friend. The Russian does not give a drat who runs things. I have lived amongst them. The Russian only cares he has a bottle of vodka to suck and some form of domestic animal life to gently caress. Then he will happily sit in poo poo his whole life. That is *his* politics.
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n4i's twink slaveboy
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I think I may have actually slept with that guy. The tat's familiar but I'm pretty sure that's the E-3 special at the local Wichita Falls tattoo parlor.
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Zeris posted:russia.jpg http://imgur.com/a/PQrcu Looks like a set of photos taken in Barnsley on any given weekend tbqh.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXQlkpaC5k Some sweet 1080p60fps footage
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Aug 28, 2015 22:50
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Pretty long but the whole thing is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84eVxXXdy-E Basically one extended continuous  The soundtrack kinda sucks though, might I recommend something appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDCs7ijNUVM Carrier Aviation: Not That Easy
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One of the old dispatchers my mom used to work with flew Corsairs in Korea and Crusaders in Vietnam. He would go on for hours about how gorgeous the Corsair was and how Ugly the F8 was, but their handling/ease of use was the exact opposite. Apparently if the seas were the least bit choppy some Corsair pilots would risk running out of fuel to either keep circling or try and get to whatever base they could get diverted to due to how awful they were to land on a moving deck
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Video reminds me of a friend of my father's in the 80's who had to ditch shortly after take-off. When he got back to his room after debriefing and poo poo his bunkmates had posted a bill for $14,000,000 on his door.
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Carteret posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXQlkpaC5k This video is cray
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Carteret posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXQlkpaC5k MLRS in direct fire? Please pardon this massive  I have right now.That vid owned I love exploding poo poo
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Carteret posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVXQlkpaC5k  Gonna reinstall Red Dragon. Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I think I may have actually slept with that guy. nooice
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the last time we got into a no poo poo existential war, we were smart enough to make planes cheap enough they could be pushed over the side of a carrier can you imagine what kind of poo poo would have to happen to push an f-35c over the side of a carrier? getting blown over the side by a single digit millions chinese srbm doesnt count e: 5:10 FOUND IT
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Aug 29, 2015 01:43
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iyaayas01 posted:Pretty long but the whole thing is worth watching: around 2:20 is a 
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Did the Skyhawk just have a notoriously garbage/spindley front landing gear or what? The whole ~:20 minute segment was just "Oops. poo poo. gently caress. Damnit. Crap. There went another one. Assfuck! Mother of ffffff"  Also that dude at 33:05 rode it out like a goddamn champ
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Aug 29, 2015 12:04
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Aug 29, 2015 14:20
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Hahaha what the gently caress
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ded posted:around 2:20 is a Seriously. What is happening there? I didn't know they had on-board iron smelters.
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lol at the poor dude that runs up and tries to deal with it
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foozwak posted:Seriously. What is happening there? I didn't know they had on-board iron smelters. I reposted the video in another thread and someone suggested an oil fire.
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Zeris posted:Hahaha what the gently caress That's a T-2 Buckeye, Navy's carrier training aircraft before the T-45. The carrier was the Lexington, which was a WWII era Essex class carrier that the Navy continued to use until the early '90s as a training carrier. So it was a student pilot that lost control in a really bad way and crashed into the island. Killed the pilot + 4 others. Here's an okay write-up on it. Sounds like the dude just got low and slow, had some throttle trouble/didn't increase power, and made some bad control inputs.
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 jesus christ i keep forgetting there are people that are this way
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buttcoinbrony posted:the last time we got into a no poo poo existential war, we were smart enough to make planes cheap enough they could be pushed over the side of a carrier Yes, how wise of our ancestors to go to war in aircraft barely more advanced than the tractors of the day. My good man, have you heard of Pierre Sprey and his revolutionary LFX concept? Once we get those bloated Pentagon bureaucrats to give up on gold-plated bullshit like "stealth" and "ECM" and "AESA Radar" that only exist to pad contractors' bottom lines, we can finally go to war in the carbon fiber planes that God and Mike Sparks intended. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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I wonder how much it would cost to make a 'modern' Hellcat. I'd guess around 600k or so.
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ded posted:I wonder how much it would cost to make a 'modern' Hellcat. I'd guess around 600k or so. About 60 Grand
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Dead Reckoning posted:Yes, how wise of our ancestors to go to war in aircraft barely more advanced than the tractors of the day. My good man, have you heard of Pierre Sprey and his revolutionary LFX concept? Once we get those bloated Pentagon bureaucrats to give up on gold-plated bullshit like "stealth" and "ECM" and "AESA Radar" that only exist to pad contractors' bottom lines, we can finally go to war in the carbon fiber planes that God and Mike Sparks intended. I lol'd at this But seriously, there's a couple Preds that should just be put out to pasture. Of course, given that a Pred airframe costs a whopping $3M all told and is quite literally expendable by today's dollars, it kind of proves your point.
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ded posted:I wonder how much it would cost to make a 'modern' Hellcat. I'd guess around 600k or so. Define "modern." Because a radar alone will cost more than your estimate. And that Hellcat will show up on the adversary's radar as far away as an F-16. Your payload is going to be poo poo because the airframe wasn't designed for the weight or spacing necessary to mount much of anything that exists today. Now add all the wiring, computers, you probably want improved life support and ejection, and now suddenly this loving thing weighs twice what an original did and you haven't even loaded the weapons on yet. Godholio fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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Godholio posted:Define "modern." Also not knowing what "modern Hellcat" means, I'll add that a Super Tucano costs around $10 million.
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And that's about as good as a design like that is going to get. And it's still a deathtrap in anything resembling conventional warfare.
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Godholio posted:Define "modern." By modern I mean made with tools & techniques from right now not adding poo poo that would change it into something else. The Hellcat back then could carry a pretty decent payload. Also it's more of a retort to 'hurrr planes so cheap we chucked them off the carrier'
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4,000 lbs isn't bad, but even in the 1940s the unit cost was like $40k (~550k today). So for raw inflation your guess is pretty impressive. Edit: Holy poo poo, they built over 12,000 of them in two years. Godholio fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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/\ and that'd be most of the reason why the majority of the Avengers were built by GM instead of Grumman, because the Iron Works was way too busy cranking out Hellcats. /\Stultus Maximus posted:Also not knowing what "modern Hellcat" means, I'll add that a Super Tucano costs around $10 million. And that is the baseline price. Toss on another couple million per tail if you're putting a decent targeting pod/MTS on board, which you should. ded posted:By modern I mean made with tools & techniques from right now not adding poo poo that would change it into something else. The Hellcat back then could carry a pretty decent payload. That's missing the point. "Lots of things that go boom" is pointless unless you have the means to guide them effectively...which means things like targeting pods as well as internal wiring to support stuff like 1760 bus/JDAM capability. That's why things like the Super Tucano cost as much as they do. This is doubly true in a low-intensity war (which is the only type of war that this type of aircraft would be used in), because you are going to want to minimize collateral damage as much as possible...which means using the smallest amount of explosive required delivered in the most precise fashion possible. iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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It's also gonna eat an SA-7 like nobody's business.
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ded posted:By modern I mean made with tools & techniques from right now not adding poo poo that would change it into something else. Even disregarding the issues of actually using such an aircraft in a combat role, airplanes aren't build THAT much differently than they were then. It would still be a riveted aluminum monocoque. The costs of replicating the production tooling and infrastructure alone would dwarf the value of anything you might save through redesign and modern materials.
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iyaayas01 posted:/\ and that'd be most of the reason why the majority of the Avengers were built by GM instead of Grumman, because the Iron Works was way too busy cranking out Hellcats. /\ who needs effective guidance when you have an order of magnitude more planes in the sky? 
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:who needs effective guidance when you have an order of magnitude more planes in the sky? bring back the flying sergeants program MrYenko posted:Even disregarding the issues of actually using such an aircraft in a combat role, airplanes aren't build THAT much differently than they were then. It would still be a riveted aluminum monocoque. The costs of replicating the production tooling and infrastructure alone would dwarf the value of anything you might save through redesign and modern materials. lmbo you loving sperg
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ded posted:bring back the flying sergeants program Yeah cuz what we need are people like the average GIP poster to be flying.
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Godholio posted:Yeah cuz what we need are people like the average GIP poster to be flying. paging Bob A Feet
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