Coding Horrors: You can gather all your technical debt into one easy framework!

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Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

Career paused to raise kids?

# ? Aug 28, 2015 15:53

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# ? May 26, 2024 20:06

Flobbster: Feb 17, 2005; "Cadet Kirk, after the way you cheated on the Kobayashi Maru test I oughta punch you in tha face!"

Suffering to maintain legacy software can be fairly lucrative...

But unfortunately for them, I don't think there are that many people whose business model relies on keeping Win ME installations running.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 16:44

canis minor: May 4, 2011

DHL, why can't you respond with the same response to the same request? Why do you "Yes, we're shipping to this destination - here are the prices" one time, and in a second you do "Nope, shipping here is not possible"

# ? Aug 28, 2015 16:50

Pavlov: Oct 21, 2012; I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

loinburger posted:

I'm working on a Java/Spring application and discovered that some of my "singleton" constructors were being called twice (I added an ActiveMQ persistent queue, and JMX was giving me an InstanceAlreadyExistsException on its BrokerService). It turns out that we're creating two copies of the ApplicationContext and hence two copies of the program's internal state because, well, just because.

Spring you say? Then obviously you should make use of the AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean. It's right there in the description: "Convenient proxy factory bean superclass for proxy factory beans that create only singletons."

No need to thank me.

Pavlov fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Aug 28, 2015

# ? Aug 28, 2015 18:39

tyrelhill: Jul 30, 2006

Hahaha gotta love Java, 5 design pattern names in a single class name.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 18:51

Sedro: Dec 31, 2008

Pavlov posted:

Spring you say? Then obviously you should make use of the AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean. It's right there in the description: "Convenient proxy factory bean superclass for proxy factory beans that create only singletons."

No need to thank me.

Oh boy, that's so convenient! It was probably posted here already but someone made a game of this.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:27

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Sedro posted:

Oh boy, that's so convenient! It was probably posted here already but someone made a game of this.

Good grief i went 0/9 before i gave up ;_;

# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:30

No Safe Word: Feb 26, 2005

Sedro posted:

Oh boy, that's so convenient! It was probably posted here already but someone made a game of this.

"Ha ha it shouldn't be that hard to pick the made up one"

:stonk:

# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:30

Pavlov: Oct 21, 2012; I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

Sedro posted:

Oh boy, that's so convenient! It was probably posted here already but someone made a game of this.

You are a saint.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:34

substitute: Aug 30, 2003; you for my mum

code:


/*-------------------------------------------------------
	BEGIN: CONSTR & INIT
-------------------------------------------------------*/
// constr:
// Proper constructor declaring and intializing data members.
proto.constr=function constr(data){
	//trace("DetailDisplay: CONSTR");
	try{
	// call super class
	data=DetailDisplay._super.constr.call(this,data);

	// Declare local variables needed.

	// BEGIN: data members
	this.thumbImg;
	this.wtb;
	// END: data members

	// BEGIN: constant data members
	// END: constant data members

	return data;
	}catch(e){GNS._error("DetailDisplay: CONSTR: "+e);}
};

# ? Aug 28, 2015 21:01

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

substitute posted:

code:


/*-------------------------------------------------------
	BEGIN: CONSTR & INIT
-------------------------------------------------------*/
// constr:
// Proper constructor declaring and intializing data members.
proto.constr=function constr(data){
	//trace("DetailDisplay: CONSTR");
	try{
	// call super class
	data=DetailDisplay._super.constr.call(this,data);

	// Declare local variables needed.

	// BEGIN: data members
	this.thumbImg;
	this.wtb;
	// END: data members

	// BEGIN: constant data members
	// END: constant data members

	return data;
	}catch(e){GNS._error("DetailDisplay: CONSTR: "+e);}
};

Somebody using their college's project templates in production code?

# ? Aug 28, 2015 22:00

substitute: Aug 30, 2003; you for my mum

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

Somebody using their college's project templates in production code?

Yes, all over the place and for about 6 years. But this fuckhead consultant (which is putting it generously) is finally gone!

We (mostly I) will still have to deal with all the lingering garbage though, until a large group of flagship sites are completely redone. Hoping that happens next year.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 22:29

loinburger: Jul 10, 2004; Sweet Sauce Jones

Pavlov posted:

Spring you say? Then obviously you should make use of the AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean. It's right there in the description: "Convenient proxy factory bean superclass for proxy factory beans that create only singletons."

No need to thank me.

When I first inherited the project we had about a dozen godawful class names that were shadowing godawful Spring class names, and we were using both our classes and the Spring classes in the project so you couldn't tell which was being used without looking at the imports. The only one I never bothered to properly fix is the PropertyPlaceholderConfigurerCustom which used to shadow the PropertyPlaceholderConfigurer.

loinburger fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Aug 28, 2015

# ? Aug 28, 2015 22:59

The Laplace Demon: Jul 23, 2009; "Oh dear! Oh dear! Heisenberg is a douche!"

loinburger posted:

I'm working on a Java/Spring application and discovered that some of my "singleton" constructors were being called twice (I added an ActiveMQ persistent queue, and JMX was giving me an InstanceAlreadyExistsException on its BrokerService). It turns out that we're creating two copies of the ApplicationContext and hence two copies of the program's internal state because, well, just because.

Pavlov posted:

Spring you say? Then obviously you should make use of the AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean. It's right there in the description: "Convenient proxy factory bean superclass for proxy factory beans that create only singletons."

No need to thank me.

EDIT: Seriously though, just add another layer of abstraction to getting an "instance" of your singleton and handle the single initialization there, i.e. create a SingletonProxyFactory� and make it a Spring Bean for convenience. And since all this initialization logic is independent of what the class does, let's pull it out into an Abstract class. (disclaimer: I have no idea how an AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean is actually used).

The Laplace Demon fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Aug 29, 2015

# ? Aug 29, 2015 07:02

Pavlov: Oct 21, 2012; I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

The Laplace Demon posted:

I have no idea how an AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean is actually used.

I'm pretty sure it's part of a suite of tools used to cause EE developers bloody their heads against their desks.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 07:14

loinburger: Jul 10, 2004; Sweet Sauce Jones

The Laplace Demon posted:

EDIT: Seriously though, just add another layer of abstraction to getting an "instance" of your singleton and handle the single initialization there, i.e. create a SingletonProxyFactory� and make it a Spring Bean for convenience. And since all this initialization logic is independent of what the class does, let's pull it out into an Abstract class. (disclaimer: I have no idea how an AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean is actually used).

The problem is that as far as I know the two ApplicationContexts we're creating can't talk to each other during initialization - if I used a [...]ProxyBean to proxy the singleton creation then I'd just wind up creating a separate [...]ProxyBean for each ApplicationContext and I'd still have two sets of singletons.

Ideally we'd just create a single ApplicationContext, or barring that we'd create two ApplicationContexts with disjoint sets of beans so there wouldn't be any name conflicts or wasted duplicate resources; however I don't yet know what the justification was for creating the two ApplicationContexts in the first place and so I don't know which solution we should go with. In the meantime I've created separate configs for the two ApplicationContexts, the differences being that their ActiveMQ broker names, queue names, database directories, and ports are different.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 07:25

DICTATOR OF FUNK: Nov 6, 2007; aaaaaw yeeeeeah

and now for the latest iteration of Javascript Owns�:

https://jsfiddle.net/Ly351fnw/

Definitely added a list length checker to that one :v:

# ? Aug 30, 2015 02:58

vOv: Feb 8, 2014

What do you think Math.max() should return?

# ? Aug 30, 2015 07:12

Hammerite: Mar 9, 2007; And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.; Jade Ear Joe

vOv posted:

What do you think Math.max() should return?

Agreed, when there are no items there are two possible approaches that make sense. That is one of them, the other is throwing.

# ? Aug 30, 2015 14:19

Bruegels Fuckbooks: Sep 14, 2004; Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

Hammerite posted:

Agreed, when there are no items there are two possible approaches that make sense. That is one of them, the other is throwing.

Javascript doesn't throw for divide by zero, or trying to work with NaNs as if they are numbers (so 5/NaN = NaN.) It's really obnoxious when trying to do numerical stuff in javascript.

# ? Aug 30, 2015 14:51

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

Douglas Crockford said that the sticky NaN was one of JavaScript's best features.

# ? Aug 30, 2015 15:20

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

Javascript doesn't throw for divide by zero, or trying to work with NaNs as if they are numbers (so 5/NaN = NaN.) It's really obnoxious when trying to do numerical stuff in javascript.

5.f / NaN == NaN though, that's how it works. Normal operations always produce quiet NaNs. It's fine to say "double precision IEEE754 fp was and remains a poor choice for all of JS's arithmetic", but it's senseless to kvetch that it implements it correctly in this case.

# ? Aug 30, 2015 15:29

Vanadium: Jan 8, 2005

Coding horror: Whenever I reach for max(x, y), it's because I want to use the value of x, but I want it to be y at maximum. Shortly after I usually realize my error.

# ? Aug 30, 2015 15:35

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

Vanadium posted:

Coding horror: Whenever I reach for max(x, y), it's because I want to use the value of x, but I want it to be y at maximum. Shortly after I usually realize my error.

The word you're looking for is 'clamp'

# ? Aug 30, 2015 15:39

Vanadium: Jan 8, 2005

Well, it's really just "min" but it always seems backwards to me :saddowns:

# ? Aug 30, 2015 15:42

SupSuper: Apr 8, 2009; At the Heart of the city is an Alien horror, so vile and so powerful that not even death can claim it.

Vanadium posted:

Well, it's really just "min" but it always seems backwards to me

That's probably because you interpret "max" as "setting the max value" as opposed to "getting the local max" so "max(x, MAX) means x can never exceed MAX right???" and yeah I do it too. :v:

# ? Aug 30, 2015 15:52

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

Yeah, I usually write an absolutely confusing function for this.

JavaScript code:

function clamp(v, min, max) {
    return Math.min(max, Math.max(min, v));
}

# ? Aug 30, 2015 16:01

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

Blotto Skorzany posted:

5.f / NaN == NaN though, that's how it works.

false

# ? Aug 30, 2015 16:02

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

A figurative ==, obviously any comparison with NaN will return false :v:

# ? Aug 30, 2015 18:16

DaTroof: Nov 16, 2000; CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

Blotto Skorzany posted:

A figurative ==, obviously any comparison with NaN will return false

except of course NaN != NaN, which will return true :q:

# ? Aug 30, 2015 19:17

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Suspicious Dish posted:

Yeah, I usually write an absolutely confusing function for this.
JavaScript code:
function clamp(v, min, max) {
    return Math.min(max, Math.max(min, v));
}

Same except I call it "bound". Or "Bounded" if it's an extension method.

# ? Aug 30, 2015 19:18

b0lt: Apr 29, 2005

NihilCredo posted:

Same except I call it "bound". Or "Bounded" if it's an extension method.

It's called saturate :argh:

# ? Aug 30, 2015 22:24

Xerophyte: Mar 17, 2008; This space intentionally left blank

b0lt posted:

It's called saturate

Not really. saturate(x) is clamp(x, 0.0, 1.0) in shading languages. Well, in the shading languages that have a saturate function and in ARB, anyhow. It's not a very well-chosen name -- I would have expected saturate it to make a color more saturated, instead of less -- but it's the one we've got.

Those are the standard names in graphics so it's probably best to stick with them in that context to not confuse people. In contexts that aren't graphics then you can call your equivalent functions whatever, really.

# ? Aug 31, 2015 01:03

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Xerophyte posted:

Not really. saturate(x) is clamp(x, 0.0, 1.0) in shading languages. Well, in the shading languages that have a saturate function and in ARB, anyhow. It's not a very well-chosen name -- I would have expected saturate it to make a color more saturated, instead of less -- but it's the one we've got.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturation_arithmetic

# ? Aug 31, 2015 01:10

sarehu: Apr 20, 2007; (call/cc call/cc)

When I was some scrub teenager I needed a clamp function and named it "clamp" never having seen such a function before, so that seems like the right name to me.

# ? Aug 31, 2015 01:14

Pavlov: Oct 21, 2012; I've long been fascinated with how the alt-right develops elaborate and obscure dog whistles to try to communicate their meaning without having to say it out loud
Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that

I've seen it as clamp before in a graphics library too.

# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:05

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

I like "mid" because it's only three letters and fits nicely with min and max.

# ? Aug 31, 2015 03:13

Dr. Stab: Sep 12, 2010; 👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Plorkyeran posted:

I like "mid" because it's only three letters and fits nicely with min and max.

Mid sounds like it gets the mean or median of a set of values.

# ? Aug 31, 2015 03:34

Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

Dr. Stab posted:

Mid sounds like it gets the mean or median of a set of values.

Getting the median of three values is exactly what the clamp function does :ssh:

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piratepilates: Mar 28, 2004; So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.

Mid is how you get a substring in a string given beginning and end indices in VB6. That's now burned in my brain.

You can use it still today in VB.NET or maybe even C# too.

# ? Aug 31, 2015 05:12

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