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Cat Mattress posted:Then obviously what we need to ban is practice, not airshows. SITKA 43 would agree with you.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It's a literal line from the article. You expect him to read the article before getting angry about it?
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It's a literal line from the article. Vice.com/en_uk/ Godholio posted:You expect him to read the article before getting angry about it? I read the article. It's stupid.
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Koesj posted:Vice.com/en_uk/ If the idiot writing that was referring to the Liberal party it would have been capitalized. Which is why in English English people make a distinction between small-l liberalism and big-L liberalism.
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Koesj posted:Vice.com/en_uk/ Look, it's not about the definition of "liberal" between the US and UK, it's the smugness that one portrays when they say: "As a [political label], I think [similar thing] is good, but think [thing I think is bad] should be banned." Everyone says that bullshit line.
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iyaayas01 posted:This one is long but worth watching: I'm a huge pussy. Will I see any horrible deaths in close detail?
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Crescendo posted:I'm a huge pussy. Will I see any horrible deaths in close detail? I may have missed one or two, but the one scene where I though I for sure saw someone buy it (deck crew getting engulfed in flaming jet fuel), the guy actually jumped out of the flames a few seconds later without any fire on him. Think that's the worst I saw. Certainly some bits where "yup, that pilot died" but nothing like seeing people horribly maimed that I could tell.
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So, eldest tsarina and I hit Thunder Over Michigan yesterday. It wasn't the best ToM we've been to, but it was still fun. They had all the big bombers way over on the other side of the field instead of in the middle of the show like they usually do, so I couldn't get up close to the Lancaster or the Privateer. They did tow the museum's Privateer and Canberra over to the show tarmac which was nice. There was a Viper demo, some stunt planes, the Blue Angels, the usual WWII reenactment. I was most excited about the Mosquito and the FW190. Seeing the Mosquito up close was like meeting a celebrity. The FW190 didn't even fly until late in the day, and it was roped off from spectators way away from everything else while it was parked, so I didn't get any good shots of it. It was kind of lackluster as ToM goes. There was a weird vibe and a distinct lack of aircraft aside from the big marquee planes like the Mossie and the Lancaster and FIFI. Anyway, here. Enjoy some average photos: Fighter flyby - Razorback Mustang, Spitfire, Goodyear Corsair, other Mustang, other Mustang.  More fighter flyby.  Lancaster and Memphis Belle waiting for takeoff.  Some movie airplane.  MOSQUITO!  (Guns by WETA Workshop). This gawky bastard.  FIFI at rest.  FIFI at play. Low passes by a B-29 are a hell of a thing. I've got more that I'm processing, but I'm out of practice and I was never good at motion/panning shots anyway. Plus, it started raining halfway through so I stuffed my camera back in the bag and missed some good stuff. They also had an A-26 zipping around with the bombers, and a handful of Mitchells.
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Any UK goons wanting to see a whole bunch of Spitfires fly about should come to this: https://grrc.goodwood.com/battle-of-britain/battle-of-britain-day-flypast#Ul3GYdKjHJ9sJbS8.97
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Just got back from the NY Airshow, went off without a hitch. The Raptor is a UFO. It was such a success they announced next years dates, Angels headlining 
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:
I've never thought about this before, but what was the logic behind redoing the tail? It makes the Privateer more visually distinctive, so that everybody knows this plane is Navy? If it's a rainy Sunday night where you are, I found an article out of mid-60s Life. It's a story about movies on airplanes in the analog era. The first movie projectors for airplanes were developed by a business man who own 15 movie theaters, and he spent a million dollars of his own money developing it. He then couldn't get anybody interested in the idea, until underdog TWA decided to try it, to great success. Pan Am gets in on the act by hiring Sony to engineer its own in flight system. Pan Am's system can also receive baseball and football broadcasts on cross country flights (as long as the stewardess remembers to change the frequency every 15 minutes or so as the plane travels from one source of the broadcast to another.) Then things get weird, as the government agency that is responsible for controlling competition in American airlines steps in, the I.A.T.A, or 'Eye Otter'. Because fares are set by this agency, and are set rather generously, airlines can compete with other things, like, say, food and movies. The best moment comes when Pan Am and TWA sit down together in Washington, and announce they are going to stop showing movies on all flights, least such a policy undermine Eye Otter, which it turns out is quite a racket for them.
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Nebakenezzer posted:I've never thought about this before, but what was the logic behind redoing the tail? It makes the Privateer more visually distinctive, so that everybody knows this plane is Navy? Beats the hell out of me. Weren't Liberators pretty tricky to fly with their weird wing and tail? Maybe the navy redesign was to improve handling/make it easier to fly? Seeing one in the air was quite a thing. They're graceful in much the same way hippos are graceful.
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VikingSkull posted:It was such a success they announced next years dates, Angels headlining Nice. Having seen both the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds half a dozen times each through my life I really prefer the Blues. They just seem to fly their aircraft a lot more aggressively, especially the solos. That said jet noise is jet noise. I haven't been to an airshow in several years and have yet to see a Raptor actually fly. Seen plenty of them on static displays, though.  I've heard the Snowbirds and a lot of European jet teams blow both the Blues and Birds out of the water, but I haven't had a chance to see any of them fly before either.
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Previa_fun posted:I've heard the Snowbirds and a lot of European jet teams blow both the Blues and Birds out of the water, but I haven't had a chance to see any of them fly before either. Here, have a ride-along with the Swiss team (it's a 360 video, click and drag on PC to move the view around, or on your phone the accelerametors will do the same thing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdZ02-Qenso
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Previa_fun posted:I've heard the Snowbirds and a lot of European jet teams blow both the Blues and Birds out of the water, but I haven't had a chance to see any of them fly before either. Most of those teams fly basically aerobatic or trainer aircraft, not survivable combat fighters. Kind of apples/oranges thing.
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Previa_fun posted:Nice. Having seen both the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds half a dozen times each through my life I really prefer the Blues. They just seem to fly their aircraft a lot more aggressively, especially the solos. That said jet noise is jet noise. I haven't been to an airshow in several years and have yet to see a Raptor actually fly. Seen plenty of them on static displays, though. I'm of the same opinion; the Blue Angels are by far and away better than the Thunderchickens. As for the teams flying smaller aircraft, they really do, especially when you consider that the aircraft that teams like the Snowbirds and Red Arrows fly are massively underpowered compared to the Blues and the Chickens, which means they have a lot less performance margin to play with. Also, nine aircraft is far more impressive than six/seven no matter how you look at it. Of all the teams I've seen fly, even though I am partial to the home team (Snowbirds), I have to say that the Red Arrows are probably the most impressive demo team to my eye. The Patrouille de France are pretty good too; I would put them on the same level as the Snowbirds at least.
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33 Airline Posters from Flying's Golden Age Pretty cool slideshow from the NYT
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Beats the hell out of me. Weren't Liberators pretty tricky to fly with their weird wing and tail? Maybe the navy redesign was to improve handling/make it easier to fly? Improved stability was the main reason, IIRC. The Privateers were actually pretty radical redesigns, with a lengthened fuselage, an improved defensive layout, and a whole host of other modifications. Later model B-24s were actually going to incorporate some of the features from the Privateer (Particularly the single tail), but the contract was cancelled before they could be built in any great numbers.  And yet neither one is in War Thunder! 
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iyaayas01 posted:33 Airline Posters from Flying's Golden Age God drat that's marvelous!
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Improved stability was the main reason, IIRC. The Privateers were actually pretty radical redesigns, with a lengthened fuselage, an improved defensive layout, and a whole host of other modifications. Later model B-24s were actually going to incorporate some of the features from the Privateer (Particularly the single tail), but the contract was cancelled before they could be built in any great numbers. I love the B-24. It was always more iconic to me. Maybe its just the double rudder.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Improved stability was the main reason, IIRC. The Privateers were actually pretty radical redesigns, with a lengthened fuselage, an improved defensive layout, and a whole host of other modifications. Later model B-24s were actually going to incorporate some of the features from the Privateer (Particularly the single tail), but the contract was cancelled before they could be built in any great numbers. Top turret looking like R2 here. B-24 was my favorite also, because my grandfather was a navigator in one.
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iyaayas01 posted:33 Airline Posters from Flying's Golden Age Good advertising and airplanes: two great tastes that taste great together.
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Hermsgervørden posted:Top turret looking like R2 here. B-24 was my favorite also, because my grandfather was a navigator in one. I love them for the same reason, my grandfather was copilot in one.
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VikingSkull posted:from today That's a good shot. We had a Viper/Mustang heritage flight at ToM. Come to think of it, I don't know that I've ever seen a Raptor in the flesh, as it were. Maybe we can get one up here soon.
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VikingSkull posted:from today Finally, something to replace the factory background on this laptop. Unf.
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n0tqu1tesane posted:I love them for the same reason, my grandfather was copilot in one. Same here, mine was the belly turret gunner. He took my brother and I to an airshow in the early 90s and he showed us how he got in and out of it.
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Nebakenezzer posted:
I like how the background of discontent with IATA started with the "Great Sandwich War of 1958"...is IATA even that effective today? I'm pretty sure the various airline alliances have more influence than they do presently.
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Had my first flight yesterday where they had to call an in-flight emergency. Older gentleman had some blood sugar issues and a heart attack onboard, announcement for any doctors/nurses, etc. After about 10 minutes they went from assessing to diverting up to Salt Lake. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL1855/history/20150830/1343Z/KCVG/KSLC/tracklog Watching the inflight entertainment system stats during this, the 737-900 sped up about 100mph from normal cruise up to the 530-540mph range. Checking wiki that looked to be its max cruise speed. I recall the plane was vibrating a heck of a lot more than usual, and the landing into salt lake which generally is pretty bumpy was fairly intense. Did the pilots go to 100% throttle for the divert? Thankfully the old guy lived and was pretty lucid l. Had to swap out the defib and other supplies before continuing onto SFO. Wasn't sure if it was a mixup or perhaps opening the plane quicker than usual, but they didn't wait to de-pressurize the jet before opening the main hatch. A few wooshes and a ton of hear popping while the captain got the door open shortly after landing. Just glad it all turned out well and I think in total we landed an hour and a half late versus our original time.
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dietcokefiend posted:Did the pilots go to 100% throttle for the divert?
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Alereon posted:Probably the opposite. Remember that a cruising aircraft has a lot of energy stored in the form of altitude, so the challenge for an emergency landing is to bleed that energy off in a way that gets you to landing as quickly as possible without over-speeding the aircraft. That usually means engines at idle, possibly spoilers being deployed as air-brakes in-flight, and maybe early landing gear extension for additional drag (on the final approach, not THAT early). We were going from CVG to SFO at a midpoint between salt lake and Vegas. The divert was an additional 20-minutes to get that way... Didn't slow down until we started making the quick decent.
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dietcokefiend posted:We were going from CVG to SFO at a midpoint between salt lake and Vegas. The divert was an additional 20-minutes to get that way... Didn't slow down until we started making the quick decent. 1500fpm isn't actually all that fast of a descent. You got to exceed 250kias under 10k ft though so theres that. Airliners.net usually isn't a very good forum, but you can google specific topics that have good stuff: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/82291/ quote:The subject you friends talk about is separated in two procedures for pilots. Now that sounds like a thrill ride. 
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Butt Reactor posted:I like how the background of discontent with IATA started with the "Great Sandwich War of 1958"...is IATA even that effective today? I'm pretty sure the various airline alliances have more influence than they do presently. I thought the IATA was the organization that Reagan deregulated in the 1980s, but no, it still exists, though it's not arguing about sandwich sizes anymore as far as I know.
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hobbesmaster posted:Now that sounds like a thrill ride. El Al Flight 219 quote:After being informed by intercom that a hijacking was in progress, Captain Uri Bar Lev decided not to accede to their demands:
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