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MockingQuantum posted:Hmm, I was unaware of this site. Interesting. Thanks! Blitzball?
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:08 |
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MockingQuantum posted:Hmm, I was unaware of this site. Interesting. Thanks! 78 hours if you include extra stuff, which I can attest is a lot.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:09 |
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Howlongtobeat seems to be right as long as you click on the game and look at where it says rushed. I don't know what rushed means, it looks like just normal without grinding. There are a lot of people that are bad at jrpgs and spend way too much time grinding, so I can believe that people would grind for that long
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:09 |
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My Lightning Returns game is like 60 hours on its first playthrough just cause I was having so much fun extincting random poo poo and messing with garbs, hah. I think you could beat that game in less than 10 hours if you even knew half of what you were doing. 20 hours probably blind I'd guess? It seems so short if you don't care about the systems.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:10 |
mycot posted:Blitzball? Oh, that's fair. I never got that into it, so I just don't think of it as being a big part of the game. Could definitely eat up a bunch of time though.
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Also people who take it slow, explore everything and let the game run while making food or w/e
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:10 |
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Srice posted:People also like to grind in games that don't even require grinding at all so they'll add a bunch of hours onto that. What would you rate FF4 at? My first save file clocked at almost 24 hours even and I was too young to understand grinding on a conceptual level. If I had to guess, most players would probably say five to ten hours less than that. I mean, you can get a bunch of testers together and get a general picture, but it's almost too hard to get a reasonable range. Honestly I'd probably laugh if I saw a game that said "15-60 HOURS OF GAMEPLAY"
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:11 |
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Srice posted:There are a lot of people that are bad at jrpgs and spend way too much time grinding, so I can believe that people would grind for that long If it's a turn based game though, I probably will never touch any aspect of grinding. Like Persona 3 and 4? Fuuuuuuuck that. The White Dragon posted:What would you rate FF4 at? My first save file clocked at almost 24 hours even and I was too young to understand grinding on a conceptual level. If I had to guess, most players would probably say five to ten hours less than that.
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Srice posted:There are a lot of people that are bad at jrpgs and spend way too much time grinding, so I can believe that people would grind for that long I was definitely one of those people, once upon a time. Growing up I'd refuse to use magic or items in random battles, and even kind of avoided using them in bigger fights, unless they felt like they absolutely needed it. As a result I had to grind like a motherfucker to not get my poo poo kicked in repeatedly. Unsurprisingly, early FF games are much more fun for me now than when I played them back in the day. Tonfa posted:Also people who take it slow, explore everything and let the game run while making food or w/e I am also one of these people. It's half of why I don't really trust time estimates on longer games, I wander around the house all the time while playing longer RPGs because I have the attention span of a gnat.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:13 |
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90% of overtime in Persona 4 vanilla was because of skill resetting Strategy games with job classes automatically don't have a set time because the whole point of those type of games is to experiment
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The White Dragon posted:What would you rate FF4 at? My first save file clocked at almost 24 hours even and I was too young to understand grinding on a conceptual level. It has been quite a long time since I last played it, but 20ish hours sounds about right? Main thing I remember is that as long as I just fought enemies on my way I'd be adequately leveled such that bosses would have some degree of challenge, but I wouldn't feel underleveled. Rascyc posted:Some people grind just cause games have fun combat. Like I had no problem grinding out titles in Tales of Graces cause it was so fun fighting stuff. There's definitely a difference between grinding because you enjoy battles and grinding because you think you need a hojillion levels or w/e to advance.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:15 |
Tae posted:90% of overtime in Persona 4 vanilla was because of skill resetting My most recent save file for FFTA2 is around 90 hours for that reason. I shudder to think what my first playthrough of FFT was. I think I had an entire team of Calculators with Blade Grasp and Teleport because why the gently caress not?
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Srice posted:Main thing I remember is that as long as I just fought enemies on my way I'd be adequately leveled such that bosses would have some degree of challenge, but I wouldn't feel underleveled. This is true for most JRPGs, which makes it annoying when I see people describe them as "grinding games", especially when the most popular IPs in the genre are generally pretty easy. Even beyond the mainstream, I skipped about a whole dungeon or two's worth of encounters in Radiant Historia and came out fine, and I wasn't even good at that game. Motto fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Howlongtobeat seems to be right as long as you click on the game and look at where it says rushed. I don't know what rushed means, it looks like just normal without grinding. I'd argue that HLT's system doesn't make a strong distinction between "main story" and "main story + extras." Like how many extras are we counting here? Like Final Fantasy games have a bunch of late game content that's completely optional. In FF9 that I'd say just casually doing Chocobo Hot and Cold and the card game would put someone at 43 hours their first time through, then you toss in hunting for everyone's abilities and ultimate weapons and so on.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:29 |
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MockingQuantum posted:Hmm, I was unaware of this site. Interesting. Thanks! Don't try to 100% it,though.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:49 |
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Nihilarian posted:Don't try to 100% it,though. Or at the very least know going in that story missions will advance the chapter and make certain side missions disappear forever. There's a lot of stuff that has no reason to be time sensitive, but you have to do it first or it's gone. But yeah, 100%ing FFX-2 is for crazy people because it requires a long list of stupidly specific and missable things to do.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 02:58 |
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Erebus posted:Or at the very least know going in that story missions will advance the chapter and make certain side missions disappear forever. There's a lot of stuff that has no reason to be time sensitive, but you have to do it first or it's gone. Only if you're doing it in one run, 100% is supposed to be for New Game+
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 03:01 |
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I cant imagine myself playing any game for 78 hours except for ones I played with friends like Terraria and poo poo Sidequests in most JRPGs arent even fun, I much prefer optional bosses/dungeons
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 03:18 |
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I played Oblivion for like 80 hours because it was my first open world RPG. I got close to that in Dragon Age: Inquisition too, most of that was probably the dumbest crafting system known to man though.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 03:20 |
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I play hundreds of hours into sports games, and I'm sure handhelds nowadays go for a lot of hours just because it's easy to play and replay due to convenience. I probably wouldn't have a fraction of time spent on Awakening or Smash if they weren't portable.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 03:24 |
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My save file in Bravely Default was about 80 hours before I burned out on it
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 03:38 |
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If I like a game enough I will do the exact same thing in it over and over again for one hundred hours no problem, just for the sheer joy of watching the numbers go up. But it's cool when an RPG is designed so you can get through the gist of it and see the credits after 15 or so without it feeling hectic. I like it when the variance in completion time is based letting the player decide whether they want to skip any activity or content (or just save it for later).
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 04:17 |
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If you only do what you're required to do to beat Lightning Returns I think 8 hours or less is probable. Speedruns of it take less than three hours. I mean that'd basically be taking the game's suggestion to do sidequests and going "nah" while also playing on Easy, but you could do it. EDIT: I think each day is like an hour without Chronostasis too so the maximum length of the game is a little over 12 hours if you never stop time and play out every single day for 24 hours (which the game doesn't even encourage you to do, it wants you to skip time sometimes). Nakar fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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of the JRPGs I currently have, I'm trying to think of which one I'll play next and game length is definitely a factor. Right now on the Vita I've got Vagrant Story and that's a short one, so I'm on lock there, but I dunno what to play on PS3/Wii. I've got Spectrobes Origins but that aint on HowLongToBeat cause aint nobody played it but me. When I put in most of what I have, it's a lot of games listed at over 50 hours on that site. Persona 2: EP, Star Ocean 3, Tales of Symphonia, Suikoden III, Xenoblade. I just got no time to dedicate an entire dang month to playing one jrpg. Gimme them short campaigns.
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Rascyc posted:My Lightning Returns game is like 60 hours on its first playthrough just cause I was having so much fun extincting random poo poo and messing with garbs, hah. My first playthrough was about 20 hours, yeah. I didn't bother to 100% everything, though I did extinct a couple of the more common encounters, and it was fun. I don't see how the hell you'd get 60 hours; surely the clock would run out before then unless you ground real heavy
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Quest For Glory II posted:of the JRPGs I currently have, I'm trying to think of which one I'll play next and game length is definitely a factor. Right now on the Vita I've got Vagrant Story and that's a short one, so I'm on lock there, but I dunno what to play on PS3/Wii. I've got Spectrobes Origins but that aint on HowLongToBeat cause aint nobody played it but me. When I put in most of what I have, it's a lot of games listed at over 50 hours on that site. Persona 2: EP, Star Ocean 3, Tales of Symphonia, Suikoden III, Xenoblade. I just got no time to dedicate an entire dang month to playing one jrpg. Gimme them short campaigns. You should play Lightning Returns.
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corn in the bible posted:You should play Lightning Returns. Chrono Cross FF Tactics Golden Sun Grandia 1 Legend of Mana Lost Odyssey Magical Starsign Persona 2: EP Riviera the Promised Land SMT Nocturne (stuck forever at matador boss) Spectrobes Origins Star Ocean 3 Suikoden III Tales of Symphonia Vagrant Story (playing on vita) Xenoblade
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 04:36 |
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Spectrobes Origins has American voice actors shouting YATTA and GOMENOSAI SENSEI because Disney asked them to make an "anime game"
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Don't forget IKU ZE
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corn in the bible posted:My first playthrough was about 20 hours, yeah. I didn't bother to 100% everything, though I did extinct a couple of the more common encounters, and it was fun. I don't see how the hell you'd get 60 hours; surely the clock would run out before then unless you ground real heavy Who knows, I do afk a lot but I can't imagine that being more than 5 hours tops. I just killed a lot of poo poo and used time stop a lot. You can have it go indefinitely pretty easily when killing stuff that give 2 ep a battle.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 05:11 |
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I've been slowly playing BoF2 on and off. Just got to escaping Evil Vatican. So far, my favorite scenario has been Nina's. It's actually pretty sad for a 16-bit jRPG; Nina eagerly embraces a suicide mission, has a reunion with her regretful and dying dad, then loses her sister at the last moment. At least i got to make things a little better by forgiving Nina I. It seems to me that Nina and Katt are actually good friends, at least in the re-translation. If you talk to Katt at Township when doing Nina's quest, she's the most upset about Nina turning into the Great Bird, and if you die during Nina's trial with Katt in your party, she's very upset when Nina returns, looking like she got the crap beaten out of her. Just a fun thing I haven't seen anyone talk about. Also, I managed to kill loving Alzheimer's. That is awesome.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 05:32 |
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Speaking of Breath of Fire, I'm playing BoF3 and I want to know when do you stop being kids? I'm at the seaport with the sailors where you have to battle that guy in order to make him stronger and it's been like ages and still everyone is a kid, when does it end so I can get to the real meat of the game?
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 05:39 |
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The Taint Reaper posted:Speaking of Breath of Fire, I'm playing BoF3 and I want to know when do you stop being kids? The child section is half the game, but you are close. You have 2 dungeons to go.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 05:53 |
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I am playing the Witcher trilogy, witcher 1 took me 40 ish hours, witcher 2 took 30 ish hours and I am at 40+ hours on Witcher 3 without the end in sight.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 06:06 |
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The tournament section with Kid Ryu was awful back in the days before FAQs. Honestly the kid arc is better than the adult though.
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Quest For Glory II posted:I dont have that yet but I will eventually. When I say what I want to play next I am just talking about what I own right now, which is Riviera's not too long. It's almost a kind of lightweight adventure game with JRPG battles rather than a full-blown JRPG: you can't backtrack to areas you've completed and your ability to grind is limited by what items you have available (the levelling system is weird), so the game sets its own pace for you to an extent. Don't try for 100% completion, it's not even possible in a single playthrough anyway (all Sting games are like this, Sting hates completionists).
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Bleusilences posted:I am playing the Witcher trilogy, witcher 1 took me 40 ish hours, witcher 2 took 30 ish hours and I am at 40+ hours on Witcher 3 without the end in sight. You'll probably be at 140+ hours with still no end in sight with that game.
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Motto posted:This is true for most JRPGs, which makes it annoying when I see people describe them as "grinding games", especially when the most popular IPs in the genre are generally pretty easy. Even beyond the mainstream, I skipped about a whole dungeon or two's worth of encounters in Radiant Historia and came out fine, and I wasn't even good at that game. Yeah this is very true and in most cases it's more about reconsidering your plans instead of needing more numbers. One thing I have learned that I never bothered with when I was younger, is that buffs and sometimes debuffs both rule a lot.
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# ? Aug 31, 2015 10:45 |
This may be one of those questions that get your angrily typed at on SA, but I really would like an recommendation for a japanese style RPG. Is there some sort of good master list where I can look around, or a goon approved list or something? I've looked through steam and gently caress me there are a lot of games nowadays.
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Son of Rodney posted:This may be one of those questions that get your angrily typed at on SA, but I really would like an recommendation for a japanese style RPG. we love anime in the rpg thread. an japanese style RPG is vague as hell tho. Maybe, A legend of heroes: trails in the sky.
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