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Malachite_Dragon posted:Would you pay $50-60 (or whatever retail is these days for physical copies) for a disk with literally nothing but an installation program for Steam? The publisher would say it was outreach. Theoretically there are some PC gamers for who MGS5 would be their first Steam title. I could probably count them on my fingers and maybe toes, but they probably exist.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Relatedly, is there a link or something to the story behind all the Konami drama? A friend of mine is super excited for Phantom Pain and I'd rather know ahead of time if he's going to be heartbroken. There was some sort of feud between Kojima and Konami though we don't really know the details of it. The game itself is fine, the feud didn't affect it.
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I don't know if it's illegal or not, but someone buying a physical copy of a PC game in 2015 has either lovely/no internet, or a bandwidth cap. So I imagine that anyone buying that is going to be pretty loving pissed.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:48
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I purchased my first physical copy of a game in like 10 years with Rocksmith 2014 (because I needed the bundled hardware) and it was just a steam installer as well. The included key didn't work, and Steam couldn't help me because it wasn't their problem. loving video games.
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Aug 31, 2015 03:12
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There are people in 2015 who play AAA games but don't have high speed internet?
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Aug 31, 2015 03:20
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FreudianSlippers posted:There are people in 2015 who play AAA games but don't have high speed internet? Australians.
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FreudianSlippers posted:There are people in 2015 who play AAA games but don't have high speed internet? Yes. Millions.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:VVV Basically this, yeah. "Don't have any/reliable internet? Tough poo poo!" Ubisoft already showed that outside of a vocal minority gamers don't give a poo poo, so yeah. Other publishers noticed. Welcome to now.
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Aug 31, 2015 03:39
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Would you pay $50-60 (or whatever retail is these days for physical copies) for a disk with literally nothing but an installation program for Steam? Because you're paying $0.05 for a disk and $49.95-$59.95 for a license. Welcome to the wonderful world of software.
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FreudianSlippers posted:There are people in 2015 who play AAA games but don't have high speed internet? When you consider that the FCC reclassified broadband as 25 Mbps download and 3 Mbps upload, I don't. I have one quarter of that currently.
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Aug 31, 2015 03:40
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Silly Burrito posted:When you consider that the FCC reclassified broadband as 25 Mbps download and 3 Mbps upload, I don't. I have one quarter of that currently. loving good for the FCC! I'm in England and I'm trying to move house. One of the FIRST questions about the new property I ask is "Do you have, or are in an area that has access to broadband?" When they answer yes I ask their max speed and often times their "broadband" is 3 to 6 meg. I'm like bitch I'm on 150 meg! Three to six is not broadband any more! Sorry for the rant. 
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The alternative is having a 10 DVD install, since that is how big next gen games are. I'm honestly surprised they even bothered to pack a disk in there, and not just a steam code by itself
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The Glumslinger posted:The alternative is having a 10 DVD install, since that is how big next gen games are. I'm honestly surprised they even bothered to pack a disk in there, and not just a steam code by itself Why not a flash drive or something?
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The Glumslinger posted:The alternative is having a 10 DVD install, since that is how big next gen games are. I'm honestly surprised they even bothered to pack a disk in there, and not just a steam code by itself If you have a computer that plays current-gen games, you have a computer with a Blu-Ray drive. 
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Aug 31, 2015 05:14
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Jamesman posted:If you have a computer that plays current-gen games, you have a computer with a Blu-Ray drive. No?
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Ape Has Killed Ape posted:I don't know if it's illegal or not, but someone buying a physical copy of a PC game in 2015 has either lovely/no internet, or a bandwidth cap. So I imagine that anyone buying that is going to be pretty loving pissed. Jamesman posted:If you have a computer that plays current-gen games, you have a computer with a Blu-Ray drive.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:20
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Sounds like misleading or deceptive conduct to me. Maybe not a criminal offense but certainly against the law (in Australia).
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Aug 31, 2015 05:25
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Jamesman posted:If you have a computer that plays current-gen games, you have a computer with a Blu-Ray drive. It's not uncommon for a build-your-own-PC thread build to have a GTX 970 or better and an external optical drive if any. Thanks to the only Blu-Ray player worth a drat on Windows closing up shop overnight a year or so ago, there's no actual reason to have a BD-ROM drive on a PC.
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thatbastardken posted:Sounds like misleading or deceptive conduct to me. Maybe not a criminal offense but certainly against the law (in Australia). If the packaging says that you need a Steam account and internet connection (I haven't checked, but they'd be stupid not to say that) then there's no deception.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:31
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Sir Unimaginative posted:there's no actual reason to have a BD-ROM drive on a PC. Well there would be if people put games on Blu-Ray instead of selling you a Steam installer in a case. But apparently even that won't work for people if they're building high-end PCs without any sort of drive in them.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:32
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You don't stuff it so much as fill it.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:40
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Jamesman posted:Well there would be if people put games on Blu-Ray instead of selling you a Steam installer in a case. Fairly high end laptop i bought last year (lenovo flex 15 w/ core i7) has no drive at all. Only usb ports. So yeah, modern high end computers frequently have no bdrom or even dvdrom any more.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:43
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Jamesman posted:Well there would be if people put games on Blu-Ray instead of selling you a Steam installer in a case. This has been common for many years
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Aug 31, 2015 05:58
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Hah hilarious conversation about modern day gaming in the funny pictures thread going on here
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Johnny Aztec posted:Hah hilarious conversation about modern day gaming in the funny pictures thread going on here Hah hilarious pictureless bitching about pictureless posting in the funny pictures thread going on here 
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Tiggum posted:If the packaging says that you need a Steam account and internet connection (I haven't checked, but they'd be stupid not to say that) then there's no deception. The ACL gets interpreted pretty broadly. quote:56 Guarantee relating to the supply of goods by description If the packaging isn't very upfront about the contents only being a steam installer then there would prima facie be misleading or deceptive conduct. It's unlikely a consumer would be able to prove damage, but the ACCC could potentially take interest.
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Ape Has Killed Ape posted:I don't know if it's illegal or not, but someone buying a physical copy of a PC game in 2015 has either lovely/no internet, or a bandwidth cap. So I imagine that anyone buying that is going to be pretty loving pissed. This happened with Mortal Kombat X on PC. Steam/valve used it to trial this new 'streaming download' feature where the game would download as you played it. Even the retail disc version only included 2 gigs of content (which was basically the main menu and intro video), requiring a further 15 gig or so download. There was enough backlash that Steam removed the game for a period of time until they disables the 'steaming download' and made it so you have to download the entire game before you could play it. We won't know if the MGSV disc has the actual game data or not until you can actually install it. 
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This entire conversation has made me glad I don't give two shits about Metal Gear Solid V That whole ordeal sounds like a huge pain in the rear end
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Parrotine posted:This entire conversation has made me glad I don't give two shits about Metal Gear Solid V https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE0ODP2MeY Here's a picture: 
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Ignite Memories posted:For a second I thought that was a huge strip of bacon. Because in that case, it would be OK. Parrotine posted:That whole ordeal sounds like a huge pain in the rear end A Phantom Pain. Which means you have no rear end. mcbexx has a new favorite as of 10:21 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Jamesman posted:If you have a computer that plays current-gen games, you have a computer with a Blu-Ray drive. Why confused?. No CD/DVD/BluRay at all in my gaming computer. All current gen (haswell CPU, GTX 970). I have zero need for one and haven't needed one for years.
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Jamesman posted:If you have a computer that plays current-gen games, you have a computer with a Blu-Ray drive. Except most people don't. Blu-Ray drives never took off on the PC, and to be honest, if you're building a PC these days, there's a good chance you don't have any optical drive in it at all. Personally, the last time I used an optical drive was to install Windows 7, so approaching six years ago.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Except most people don't. Blu-Ray drives never took off on the PC, and to be honest, if you're building a PC these days, there's a good chance you don't have any optical drive in it at all. Yeah, Blu-Ray drives were only really marketable for BD-RW's, and for the cost of the drive and multiple disks you could just get a few HDD's.
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flosofl posted:Why confused?. No CD/DVD/BluRay at all in my gaming computer. All current gen (haswell CPU, GTX 970). I have zero need for one and haven't needed one for years. Yeah, I've had my current computer for a year and a half, and I've literally never used the cd/dvd drive that it came with. I use a flash drive if I want to play something on the tv, otherwise it's all cloud-based.
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Finally, a voice of reason.
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Talk about an "Itasha"
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Copper For Lyfe posted:This happened with Mortal Kombat X on PC. There are pills you can take if your "steaming downloads" are disabled 
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The MSJ posted:
So basically the guy in the back created his own hair on another gentleman using the lost medium of peanut butter? I love postmodern art. edit: Just noticed guy in the back may have a honey beard or something. This......this is a sex thing isn't it?
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