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The Dave posted:The original iPhone didn't do much? Maybe it didn't in terms of a bloated windows phone piece of poo poo but it felt like god drat voodoo magic and the web browser was a very big deal. It had web apps! But yeah, it was pretty loving barebones.
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The Dave posted:The original iPhone didn't do much? Maybe it didn't in terms of a bloated windows phone piece of poo poo but it felt like god drat voodoo magic and the web browser was a very big deal. Beyond that though it didn't do much. I am not arguing it was not an amazing device for the time, it was, but history tends to cloud our judgement and make things seem a bit more amazing than it was.
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Aug 31, 2015 21:22
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beyond the things it did it didn't do much
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Aug 31, 2015 21:46
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I have an original iPhone and can confirm it doesn't do much. Hell I can't even download apps for this thing.
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Aug 31, 2015 22:27
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The iPhone let you send AIM messages over data instead of a gateway that charged you incredibly stiff SMS rates. It circumvented a tremendous amount of carrier fuckery going on at the time more than anything. The entire period where the App Store didn't exist really doesn't count. Not only was it only a few months, but everybody was hacking them anyway.
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Aug 31, 2015 22:58
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It took a whole year for the app store to come out in iOS 2. The original iPhone did so many things right, even with its limitations. Visual Voicemail was a godsend. A real email client that supported IMAP with no caveats. The web browser kicked the poo poo out of any other phone's browser. Remember, the "smart" competition at the time was Treos, Windows Mobile (nee Pocket PC) and blackberries. None of them managed to get the right kind of user interaction things right to truly supplant dumbphones. Palm/Pocket PC devices were never mainstream; sure, nerds and spendy businesspeople had PDAs, but the average person? No way. The interaction model on the iPhone was so approachable that you immediately forgot about all the bullshit you went through with PDAs. I used Palms and a Pocket PC for years, and none had the actual functional elegance of the iPhone. Too much janitoring, too many caveats when actually trying to get poo poo done. And their sync software was garbage. We've come a long way in ten years. I had an original iPhone for four years, replaced it with a 4S. It just worked and Apple's OS support meant that it didn't really go obsolete for phone/app stuff. Probably one of the best dollar value purchases I've ever made. I'm not holding on to a phone for that long again, but it was such a sea change that it only looks quaint in hindsight.
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Aug 31, 2015 23:59
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kefkafloyd posted:And their sync software was garbage. We've come a long way in ten years. You have some good points in the rest of your post, I just wanted to point out that these two sentences should never be spoken in succession in regards to iPhones.
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Sep 1, 2015 01:55
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Selane posted:beyond the things it did it didn't do much this is hilarious
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Sep 1, 2015 02:21
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Monday_ posted:You have some good points in the rest of your post, I just wanted to point out that these two sentences should never be spoken in succession in regards to iPhones. Did you actually use ActiveSync or Palm Desktop through the early aughts? Because yes, while iTunes has its foibles (and iOS 8 had some awful sync bugs), those things were WORSE. Hell, you can use an iPhone (or iPad) as a primary computing device without ever syncing it to a computer if you so choose nowadays. You could never do that with a Palm or a PocketPC, admittedly because they had no active data connections.
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Sep 1, 2015 02:36
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kefkafloyd posted:Did you actually use ActiveSync or Palm Desktop through the early aughts? This post and the last all truth.
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Sep 1, 2015 02:54
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kefkafloyd posted:I had an original iPhone for four years, replaced it with a 4S. It just worked and Apple's OS support meant that it didn't really go obsolete for phone/app stuff. Probably one of the best dollar value purchases I've ever made. I had a 3G that became an unreliably slow drained out scrap of molasses thanks to the iOS 4 update. So I bought a Nexus One and went Android for five years. I think they were hemming and hawing over Google Voice and the idea of something other than Phone.app having a visual metaphor of a dialpad on it when I gave up. Steve Jobs spent most of his career complaining about how companies (namely Apple without him, as well as Hewlett-Packard) meander and lose their way after their founders leave. I used to agree with him, until he showed me that this visionary founding people often have trouble relinquishing their control and influence over the product to the developing wants and interests of it's adopted public. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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Sep 1, 2015 03:22
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The OG iPhone was limited, even compared to my treo 650, but it was still the coolest phone on the market, and its main selling point besides it's beautiful multitouch screen was a decent web browser. That alone was worth it back in the day. My experience with the six: I preordered the 6+ within minutes of the preorder through ATT, which was the first store I got through. After a day, I was looking at a month turnaround. Release day came, and I bought a 6 from the company I work for, who obtained a few phones of random specs. I got my 6 before the store opened, thinking that my 6+ was a month away. The weekend went by and Monday morning, the 6+ shows up on my doorstep. I give my wife the 6 and everything was cool. The point is, it's unpredictable. You may order your poo poo minutes after the preorder and you don't know until you're holding it in your hand. App Store through the phone seems better than most, but that doesn't guarantee you anything. It's all in the game. Edit: a few months ago, I had to use my treo 650 for a few days, and it sucked, but at the end of the day, it did what it needed to. I got my email. I could search the web for basic poo poo. I could make calls and send texts, and the texts were chat like. It wasn't that bad. For basic functions, a pre-iPhone smart phone did its job well. I even played an old school version of madden and it was fun, as well as the NES emulator that made punch out fun again. empty baggie fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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Sep 1, 2015 04:48
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Sweet fancy Moses, my phone just died. It sat happily on my desk two minutes ago, with the battery at about 85 percent. Reached over to check something and waste time, and there's no reaction. It's a 5S. It's never been wet or anything. What gives? And more importantly, is there any hope of saving it?
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Sep 1, 2015 09:30
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Hold the power and home button (I think) until it resets.
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Sep 1, 2015 09:41
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That actually worked. Thank you very much, Mr LampkinsMateSteve!
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Sep 1, 2015 09:48
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No worries. It's a handy thing to know —that's happened to my wife's phone a couple of times, and she was a bit panicky both times.
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Sep 1, 2015 10:09
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Xabi posted:That actually worked. Thank you very much, Mr LampkinsMateSteve! Isn't iOS 8 great! I get these every now and then. Guessing it's a app run amuck hogging resources or something similar. iOS 9 cannot replace this turd fast enough.
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Sep 1, 2015 11:44
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mAlfunkti0n posted:Isn't iOS 8 great! I get these every now and then. Guessing it's a app run amuck hogging resources or something similar. iOS 9 cannot replace this turd fast enough. ??? iOS 8 has been great for me, and most other people I know! Are you sure you aren’t just one of those “grass is always greener” people?
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Sep 1, 2015 12:10
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8.3 onwards has been a bit of a disaster for me. Apple Music being a total disaster didn't help. I did a total phone restore to 8.4....1? Whatever the latest is... And things have been a bit better but on 8.3 I was getting random shutdowns all the time.
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Sep 1, 2015 12:14
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Yeah iOS 8 has probably been the most glitchy one I have used, outside of the second public beta of iOS 9. Music syncing onto a brand new phone on 8.0 was an exercise in frustration and it took me a few updates to get my music from my PC onto the phone in the end. Conversely, 9.0 is looking pretty awesome and is the tidy up of code that iOS badly needed.
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Sep 1, 2015 12:54
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I never had problems with the stock Podcasts app until 8.3, now it won't sync downloaded episodes through iTunes reliably. It's pretty annoying.
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Sep 1, 2015 13:01
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tuyop posted:I never had problems with the stock Podcasts app until 8.3, now it won't sync downloaded episodes through iTunes reliably. It's pretty annoying. Try doing a full phone restore if you're bothered. 8.3 broke podcasts for me completely but it seems to be ok after I did a total wipe.
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bobfather posted:??? iOS 8 has been great for me, and most other people I know! Are you sure you aren’t just one of those “grass is always greener” people? The beta of iOS 9 runs 10x better than iOS 8 ever has. I've had nonstop problems with 8, including crippling issues with WiFi that countless other users have experienced, bluetooth issues, device hesitation when unlocking, etc etc etc. 8 is a complete turd and what I have seen of 9 I like.
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empty baggie posted:My experience with the six: I preordered the 6+ within minutes of the preorder through ATT, which was the first store I got through. After a day, I was looking at a month turnaround. Release day came, and I bought a 6 from the company I work for, who obtained a few phones of random specs. I got my 6 before the store opened, thinking that my 6+ was a month away. The weekend went by and Monday morning, the 6+ shows up on my doorstep. I give my wife the 6 and everything was cool. The point is, it's unpredictable. You may order your poo poo minutes after the preorder and you don't know until you're holding it in your hand. App Store through the phone seems better than most, but that doesn't guarantee you anything. It's all in the game. Lesson to learn: order direct from Apple.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:25
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Endless Mike posted:Eh. If you order direct from Apple instead of your carrier, the time they give until you get it is worst-case scenario. I recall LOTS of people getting shipping times of a month or more getting them within a week of launch. Yup, I think I have received everything from Apple before the ETA they give.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:29
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I take it then if I actually want a phone on the launch day itself, I'd have to line up in an apple store right? from what you guys have just said, I'd be waiting days or weeks after the launch if I order from apple. Note I'm also in Australia, if there are any Australian goons who can relate their past experiences with iphone launches. As a current Windows Phone user, I've never had to deal with other people actually wanting to buy the same phone as me before. What are the queues like? do they typically sell out well before the end of the day?
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Sep 1, 2015 14:41
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I was lucky when i got my six. I just ordered it online and picked it up at the Apple Store in Nashua. If you have the ability to buy online/pick up in an Apple store, it's the best way to get something as soon as possible. Otherwise, it's the whim of your carrier/Apple mailing it to you.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:57
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The Lord Bude posted:I take it then if I actually want a phone on the launch day itself, I'd have to line up in an apple store right? from what you guys have just said, I'd be waiting days or weeks after the launch if I order from apple.
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Sep 1, 2015 16:43
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That's kinda promising. I've been led to understand that most carrier stores won't sell iphones outright in the first few weeks post release - only on a new contract, so my only in person option is apple I believe, and some googling of the iphone 6 launch talks of people camped out 3 days ahead and queues stretching for blocks. I really can't be hosed doing that. It would be annoying enough just having to wake up before midday.
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Sep 1, 2015 16:52
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So just order it and get it when you get it? It's just a phone, man.
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Sep 1, 2015 16:59
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Endless Mike posted:So just order it and get it when you get it? It's just a phone, man. Well yes, but I'm thoroughly sick of my current phone, and getting it sooner is more desireable than later.
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Sep 1, 2015 17:03
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Endless Mike posted:So just order it and get it when you get it? It's just a phone, man. Go back to watching your newscast on TV, dad. The kids are having fun here!
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Sep 1, 2015 17:10
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Croc Monster posted:Go back to watching your newscast on TV, dad. The kids are having fun here! 
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Will a Verizon phone work on ATT? Or are there LTE band restrictions that will get me?
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Sep 1, 2015 22:16
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Will a Verizon phone work on ATT? Or are there LTE band restrictions that will get me? If it has LTE it should work.
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Sep 2, 2015 00:26
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I assume Apple will replace this? I'm in London and whenever I try booking an appointment at an Apple store it throws a message at me saying there's nothing available. Did they recently change the website? I distinctly remember there being a week view with available time slots. Now it looks like it just checks the next available time and forces you to pick that. But since London is so busy it always says there's no available times. How are you supposed to book anything?
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awesome-express posted:I assume Apple will replace this? Comedy answer: get a train to Cambridge.  (I once had to use the Penistone rail line to get to Sheffield to replace a broken iPod classic. It's rather nice if in bumfuck nowhere)
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Mine is worse than that, but since I'm running the iOS 9 beta, I'm going to wait until after it's released to bother getting it fixed just in case they mess something up while doing it. Speaking of iOS 9, the Facebook app's notifications like to never dismiss until a reboot. It's the only app doing it, so I'm assuming it's an app thing and they'll hopefully fix it after release. (Or even before, if they're aware of the issue, but then again, it's Facebook, so they'll probably make it worse.)
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If my current launch-day iPhone 6+ isn't available for an upgrade for another year, but my iPad line is, can I preorder by putting in the iPad-assigned number on the Apple site and then putting the SIM from my 6+ in to the new phone, thus saving $200? I thought last year there was an early upgrade option via AT&T, but I suppose selling the phone will net me more than $200, so there's that route too. Thoughts?
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