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Chill la Chill posted:The using fingers to mark possible future positions was never cheating until sometime during the summer. Target locking "pre measuring" is still legal. I think they were commenting on the former but like I said I forgot when that rule was instituted so he may have been cheating at this point. (Note that Paul has always done that, looking at old world's footage. He remarked about it during the summer too.) It's explicitly in the rules quote:"During the Planning phase, players cannot use maneuver templates in order to “test” where ships will end up. Instead, they must plan their maneuvers by estimating their ships’ movement in their heads." I can't imagine letting anyone do this twice in a tournament, much less 5 times in one regionals semifinal.
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Right, but it was allowed. If you look at old world's coverage, Paul used his arms and fingers several times to guess/mark locations of where his ships would land and what their FOV was. I never did it myself and only noticed when they explicitly added it to the FAQ or tournament rules.
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Irom posted:Guri (30) this list is getting really drat fun to fly. Latest change is I took lightning reflexes off Serissu and added the tec jammer on Boba. When flown properly, I tuck Serissu behind 4-5 red dice and Guri behind 6-7 with a defensive reroll. Poor, poor Boba. Every time I fly this it's a race to get as much done as I can before he goes down. He's Guri's Big Daddy. Irom fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Kai Tave posted:So here's something I stumbled on earlier today. A "total conversion" to turn X-Wing into a cooperative boardgame-style campaign against an AI controlled Empire. I was reading this over the weekend and I'm really excited to give it a shot with some friends. The idea of starting off with a barebones ship, gaining experience in missions, and spending it on upgrades across a campaign really appeals to me. Plus I've got some friends who have been interested in the game, and I feel that simplifying their experience down to controlling a single ship that they get to slowly "level-up" with upgrades will lower the barrier of entry and make the game more social ("hurray we win" instead of "hurray you lose").
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I mean I beat a guy with an illegal list because Decimators can't carry missiles but eh his super expensive Oicunn with ruthlessness did not impress me anyway. If you joust using a decimator against any list with a solid amout of red dice(12 or more) your decimator will soon be done. I'm laughin at people on the FFG forum complaining about the TLT meta, though- if you run your turret straight into the lead Y wing you will not get shot by all the TLTs. BTW strobe i ain't afraid of no x wing. Bring all the Poe or Wes or Wedge or Luke, I don't give a gently caress~
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Panzeh posted:I mean I beat a guy with an illegal list because Decimators can't carry missiles but eh his super expensive Oicunn with ruthlessness did not impress me anyway. If you joust using a decimator against any list with a solid amout of red dice(12 or more) your decimator will soon be done. Honestly you can down a Decimator pretty consistently with 9 red dice and PS advantage. My XXXs have next to zero trouble with Decimators. Escorts complicate things, but just the Decimator? Focused down like a little bitch.
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Strobe posted:Honestly you can down a Decimator pretty consistently with 9 red dice and PS advantage. My XXXs have next to zero trouble with Decimators. Escorts complicate things, but just the Decimator? Focused down like a little bitch. You don't really need a PS advantage to kill a deci. Though normally a deci should have no trouble arc dodging X wings- they have pretty predictable dials and no post-move movement, at least till the T-70 comes out. Decis have to be arc dodging hard to survive. You can't joust with them, so putting ordnance on there is an absolute waste.
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You don't need it, but it does more reliably prevent a parting shot from the Decimator that might take out a ship. But that's true of pretty much any ship interaction. Decimators have a tougher time dodging X-wings unless they have engine upgrades. Without it, they're slightly faster based on the virtue of their base size alone, and having predictable dials won't save you from a situation in which no maneuver will reliably take you out of arc of those predictable moves. I have had trouble with a Decimator with my X-wings maybe twice? And one of those was Kenkirk with Isard and Palpatine, so it was tanky as gently caress.
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I fought a decimator with Vader a grand total of once, and it wasn't that scary. Two escorting Tie Ints, nailed one Int first in the jousting, damaged the Decimator and took out Vader, then left the decimator in the asteroids, nailed the last int, and then took out the decimator at range 3 where I get an extra defence die and it was still a piece of piss to hit.
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So Target has a deal in their weekly ad for this Friday's Star Wars merchandise launch. Using promo code FORCE it's $10 off $50, or $25 off $100. People have said the new core set has been spotted in some Targets already. Do we know if anything else gets released at the same time as the new core set?
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Panzeh posted:I mean I beat a guy with an illegal list because Decimators can't carry missiles but eh his super expensive Oicunn with ruthlessness did not impress me anyway. If you joust using a decimator against any list with a solid amout of red dice(12 or more) your decimator will soon be done. you might not mind xwings but the YV-666s are coming for you homie
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Irom posted:you might not mind xwings but the YV-666s are coming for you homie Tis why I got me one of my own!
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Kai Tave posted:So here's something I stumbled on earlier today. A "total conversion" to turn X-Wing into a cooperative boardgame-style campaign against an AI controlled Empire. Duct Tape posted:I was reading this over the weekend and I'm really excited to give it a shot with some friends. The idea of starting off with a barebones ship, gaining experience in missions, and spending it on upgrades across a campaign really appeals to me. This is something I've thought about as well. Turning X-Wing into a co-op style game is a good thing, as a lot of people don't really like the 100% PVP aspect of the game. Plus, I think you are correct in assuming a lot of people get X-Wing overload, where making a 100 point squad is kind of overload and they'd rather just focus on one little ship to command. It sort of reminds me why I don't like Hearthstone's main modes-- I don't want to play against real people in PVP. I'd rather do their single player modes against AIs. Also I am curious if the author of the single player mode is eyeing a possible position at FFG by making that labor of love. Of course they'd have to move to Minnesota which I think is a terrible drawback to that idea no matter how much one's love of tiny plastic spaceships may be.
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canyoneer posted:So Target has a deal in their weekly ad for this Friday's Star Wars merchandise launch. Using promo code FORCE it's $10 off $50, or $25 off $100. I work at Target, and I haven't seen anything yet in the backroom that might indicate more stuff is coming out immediately. I'm hoping for individual X-wings/TIEs, but can't confirm. That said, I also get 10% off for working there and 5% off with my target card, so I'm looking at drat near $50 off my next X-wing purchase. 
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The scum crew options are legitimately really good, especially combined with the YV's fairly green dial. I mean, the K4 security droid is extremely legit(I ran a super Kath build with that, EU, VI, and an HLC and she is a dangerous piece.). The Outlaw Tech is pretty good, Greedo's nice, Bossk is great(Bossk+Gunner is a good way to run a YV that has no need for actions). I mean, there's nothing quite as defensively potent as Ysanne or C3P0 but drat even the generic with some good crew is mean. I'm thinking about trying a Slaver with Bossk, Gunner, and engine upgrade, just boosting around like a jackass.
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Panzeh posted:The scum crew options are legitimately really good, especially combined with the YV's fairly green dial. I mean, the K4 security droid is extremely legit(I ran a super Kath build with that, EU, VI, and an HLC and she is a dangerous piece.). The Outlaw Tech is pretty good, Greedo's nice, Bossk is great(Bossk+Gunner is a good way to run a YV that has no need for actions). I mean, there's nothing quite as defensively potent as Ysanne or C3P0 but drat even the generic with some good crew is mean. My current notion is to pair Bossk with Prince Xizor(!). You can fully kit out Xizor and still have the points to give Bossk all the trimmings (Mangler Cannon, Gunner, K4, Outlaw Tech, Calculation, Hound's Tooth) and still come in at 98 for an initiative bid. Plus Xizor's ability works nicely with a big chunky ship to slide excess damage off onto.
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Kai Tave posted:My current notion is to pair Bossk with Prince Xizor(!). You can fully kit out Xizor and still have the points to give Bossk all the trimmings (Mangler Cannon, Gunner, K4, Outlaw Tech, Calculation, Hound's Tooth) and still come in at 98 for an initiative bid. Plus Xizor's ability works nicely with a big chunky ship to slide excess damage off onto. Xizor's ability isn't a huge deal unless you surround him with minions who each take an uncancelled damage tho
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canyoneer posted:So Target has a deal in their weekly ad for this Friday's Star Wars merchandise launch. Using promo code FORCE it's $10 off $50, or $25 off $100. Thanks for the heads up. Is that only online or what? I went to my target today cuz I heard about the early releases but they are staying on schedule lol. Guess I'll come back Friday. Meanwhile the Walmart released theirs early and the whole area was ransacked.
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Irom posted:Xizor's ability isn't a huge deal unless you surround him with minions who each take an uncancelled damage tho I rarely consider Xizor's ability a huge selling point, it's more that with VI he's a PS 9 arc dodger with 3 red and 3 green dice, a Systems upgrade, Autothrusters, and an Illicit upgrade. Getting to redirect the occasional damage is a bonus if it happens.
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Chill la Chill posted:Thanks for the heads up. Is that only online or what? I went to my target today cuz I heard about the early releases but they are staying on schedule lol. Guess I'll come back Friday. Meanwhile the Walmart released theirs early and the whole area was ransacked. If your local Target isn't a 24 hour store, they will probably open at 8 am and you can be pretty close to first in line (if there even is a line) getting there early. That's what I'll be doing.
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Is there anything worthwhile besides getting the core set? I'm not into the toy scene (ok besides plastic space ships) but if there's some sweet rare toys I'd be up for them. 
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Not a hundred percent, honestly. There are these cool Hot Wheels Y-wings, Firesprays, Falcons, and X-wings that are pretty neat. They're bigger than X-wing figures and made of what looks to be cheaper but more durable plastic. I kinda want a couple.
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Oh yeah I saw plenty of those at the Walmart. I saw some discounted rebels toys at the target which is why I assume they want to try and sell those first before releasing the new stuff. I noticed that some black series stuff were in the toy aisle. For some reason I thought those were only sold at specialty shops. Are there any particularly rare ones of those, if you know?
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I don't, but I do know that if any of them had been rare, those ones have long been picked clean. We went clearance for everything that even resembled a Star Wars toy.
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So I'm not totally clear on whether or not the actual new set is being released Friday, or just announced. And is this going to be a Target exclusive or are they just the ones who leak the most?
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I'm 99% sure that there's a new set being released Friday. I doubt it's a Target exclusive, on account of if it is, FLGS owners are going to be loving pissed and that's bad for business.
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Strobe posted:I'm 99% sure that there's a new set being released Friday. I doubt it's a Target exclusive, on account of if it is, FLGS owners are going to be loving pissed and that's bad for business. Well there's a funny thing...when I told my FLGS owner about the new core set dropping in all likelihood on 9/4 he was surprised and a little pissed because he apparently had no idea it was coming out. He went and checked the preorder thing he uses to get FFG stuff in and there was the Wave 8 stuff up for preorder but no new core set. So I don't know if this is some weird anomaly, a result of wires getting crossed, or part of a deliberate big retail store push or what.
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It might be a retail store push, but I really doubt it's an exclusive anywhere.
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Oh I doubt it's exclusive either, I just thought it was strange. My FLGS isn't some regionals hosting megastore or anything but he orders a fair amount of FFG product (including X-Wing, Armada, and ImpAss) and he had no idea this was coming out on September 4th like at all. He only knew about it when I started talking about the leaks.
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Strobe posted:I'm 99% sure that there's a new set being released Friday. I doubt it's a Target exclusive, on account of if it is, FLGS owners are going to be loving pissed and that's bad for business. I asked again about it tonight. My FLGS owner is really pissed. His distributor doesn't have it for order. He said unless some magic happens and he can order it Wednesday there won't be a force friday at the FLGS.
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Yeah, hence my confusion. My local store didn't have anything, and the clerks weren't even aware of the leaks. I mean, not like I'm not going to buy it immediately anyway, but it still seems pretty drat weird on the supply side of things.
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Eh, it'll all be available online that same weekend. It's just a dumb push to ramp up demand because nerds are impulsive and bad with money. Just wait a day.
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Anyone thought of a good imperial counter to the K-Wing and the growing use of TLT? I feel that as much as Imperials are popular they are not nearly worth anything in tournaments with the growing presence of both Scum and Rebels at the top of tournament lists.
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I asked the manager at a Games by James and he said that they were supposed to get stuff in December to coincide more with the movie. No idea what's going on.
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Biaga posted:Anyone thought of a good imperial counter to the K-Wing and the growing use of TLT? Soontir Fel with Autothrusters? Seemed to work okay for me against Miranda Doni. TARDISman posted:I asked the manager at a Games by James and he said that they were supposed to get stuff in December to coincide more with the movie. No idea what's going on. Man, if FFG is seriously going to try and keep the Episode 7 stuff out of LGSes for any amount of time for any reason that seems pretty dumb, let alone until December.
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burning your core distributors who are also the people who host tournament space for your game to try and eke out a tiny bit more interest when your customers are already probably going to buy a product really quickly seems real silly to me, but maybe that's why I'm not a businessman
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willus posted:burning your core distributors who are also the people who host tournament space for your game to try and eke out a tiny bit more interest when your customers are already probably going to buy a product really quickly seems real silly to me, but maybe that's why I'm not a businessman I don't know anything about anything with regards to this, but it's entirely possible that the matter isn't even in FFG's hands. This could be a Disney thing, and while Disney seems cool with FFG when it comes to gearing up the Episode 7 marketing machine FFG customers and tabletop game stores may rank near the bottom of the list compared to pretty much everyone and everywhere else.
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