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I remembered this game existed and people are saying its good and I like all the things they say are good about it so I think I will pick it up later after I'm done owning the poo poo out of MGS5, but why did they release this at the same time as that game lmao
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khwarezm posted:Just appreciate the irony of people complaining about reviewers not losing their mind about a game when in any other situation they'd probably be moaning about a big studio backed licensed game being let off the hook. I don't think people are complaining about this so much as they are explaining to others interested that the game isn't rank trash as some of the reviews suggest. No one is saying this is a masterpiece, just that it is a good amount of fun so far.
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got this yesterday and it is a lot of fun though unfortunately i am leaving for a month tomorrow and won't have time to really get into it. but from what i have played (basically just enough to open the larger world) it is a blast and seems like "shadow of mordor with cars" which is what I was hoping - though I don't know if there is anything like the Nemesis system here. also I think it has the best car engine sounds of any game i've played recently including proper driving sims
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:I don't think people are complaining about this so much as they are explaining to others interested that the game isn't rank trash as some of the reviews suggest. No one is saying this is a masterpiece, just that it is a good amount of fun so far. From the reviews I've actually read(Kotaku, Gamespot) they seem to say 'Eh, doesn't have great staying power and lots of things done better elsewhere, but if your into open world games, or Mad Max in general you'll probably enjoy it' its not been called rank trash by and large instead they say its just sort of OK, and a lot of the posts here seem to ultimately echo the sentiment I have in quotes. khwarezm fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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The game is fun at a visceral level, but I can understand the low scores as it lacks polish. Solid 8 at most. Don't see this game winning any Game of the Year awards or anything like that unless they release some patches and work out the bugs. It's still a fun game and all, but the game is littered with small tiny flaws which hinder the overall experience. I'll list out a few that I can think of. -No first person view when you're walking around on foot. In this day and age, any game that only has third person view, gets an automatic deduction in points from me. Fallout series basically perfected the use of the 3rd person and 1st person camera- there is no excuse for leaving it out. Especially when there is gunplay and/or driving involved. Guns look better when you have iron sights that you can use to aim with. The first person view in a vehicle simply moves the camera to the proximity of the head. This means you can't look around with your head like you would be able to in GTA. Sloppy work. Doesn't count. -No aircraft. A game this big needed some kind of aircraft to help navigate the rough terrain. They tease you with a balloon, but it's just a fast travel gimmick. Exclusion of motorcycle is understandable, but I am baffled they left out airplanes and gyrocopters. Imagine dropping a load of bombs from a rusted old F16 combat airplane. It would be amazing. -Scarcity of ammo means even when you're fully stocked up you can't blast your way through a level. Not only is it unrealistic (I can probably carry 120+ shells in a bag easy), the game is taking away choices on how you play your game. I like guns. Let me use them to blow away cars and people with reckless abandon. Let me attach machine gun to my car and blow up everything in my path. The game won't let you do whatever you want to do, you have to play by its rules. I don't like that. -When you take cover in the storm, Chumbag should put a car cover over the vehicle and take refuge with you, inside. It's still immersion breaking features like these that make me bang my head up against the wall. -No auto-drive mode. Even Mafia II had an auto-drive mode. Would have been a feature so you could set a destination and kick back. -No quicksave Not a fan of the check point system. Why won't the game let me save whenever/wherever I want to and let me pick up from there? I hate how the game moves to back to the last checkpoint or garage, basically nullifying 10 minutes of driving I'll have to do to get back to where I was. -Dull AI The bad guys seem to be stuck in a perpetual cycle of rushing at me over and over again. Why not run upstairs and jump off a balcony to land a surprise kick? Why not attack me all at once? Instead in fights they will literally circle around attacking one by one. Same goes when they are trying to run me over. Boring! -Lack of weapons In the wastelands, there should be all kinds of guns. Revolvers, rifles, hand guns, automatic pistols, glocks, 1911s, but instead all we are stuck with is a sniper rifle which we can only use inside the car, and a shotgun. Don't get me wrong, it's a fun game, but it's a long ways from A+. I'm sure they will patch in a lot of my requests and modders will hopefully fill in the gap. It's got the framework to be a great game, but it's still lacking in some vital areas. Granted, the Gamespot review was way too biased, but I can see how some reviewers would land this game in the 6 or 7 out of 10 category. Very rough around the edges. Devs didn't put too much thought into polishing and it shows. Muttonchips fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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Control Volume posted:I remembered this game existed and people are saying its good and I like all the things they say are good about it so I think I will pick it up later after I'm done owning the poo poo out of MGS5, but why did they release this at the same time as that game lmao Yeah its really loving stupid on warner brother's part right here. Releasing this game against the biggest game of the year. They hosed up
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Yeah none of the reviews I've read have outright said that the game is trash at all either.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Yeah none of the reviews I've read have outright said that the game is trash at all either. It's been scoring like trash, in some places at least. Like, yes, technically a 5 or 6 should just mean middling, but when it comes to games reviews, that number is reserved for bad games. Which really just says something about the scoring process in the first place, but that's a different argument. And keep in mind that a lot of people just look at that number without reading the content.
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This game is fun and really pretty (especially for something that's all desert) but has some quirks that are pretty annoying. Why are shooting controls so weird? I waste a shotgun shell every time I exit the menus - it shouldn't shoot unless I'm holding the aim button imo. Or just use a shoulder button for shooting like every other game ever (or even like itself, why is the sniper assigned to a shoulder if the shotgun isn't?) I haven't searched the menus so maybe there's a way to reassign buttons. Why do I have to watch Max fill up a canteen / gas tank each time? It feels like it takes forever and isn't interesting at all - same with riding the balloons up, it seems like it takes an unnecessarily long time to get to the point where you can survey everything. Jumping is straight terrible and any situation you have to use jump is clunky and dumb. Mostly small issues that'll hopefully be fixed with a patch, and the game scratches that open-world-checklist-game itch I have once or twice a year pretty well. Also the dog is really annoying doing those minefield searches but I'll probably just ignore those so whatever.
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khwarezm posted:From the reviews I've actually read(Kotaku, Gamespot) they seem to say 'Eh, doesn't have great staying power and lots of things done better elsewhere, but if your into open world games, or Mad Max in general you'll probably enjoy it' its not been called rank trash by and large instead they say its just sort of OK, and a lot of the posts here seem to ultimately echo the sentiment I have in quotes. In the Kotaku review the guy literally opens with this - "A little more than 10 years ago, not long after I quit my job to become a freelance writer, a colleague warned me that sometimes the work could be grueling and unrewarding. “I want to talk to you when you’re writing a story only for money,” he said. It took a decade, but I finally found that assignment: reviewing Mad Max for Kotaku. I never would have finished this game if someone wasn’t paying me to do so. If this were Thunderdome, I would have let Mad Max win." This was the first review I read of the game yesterday while at work, and suggested to me that it was utter garbage without actually saying the quote "utter garbage". I do think it's pretty funny it released against Metal Gear though. Outside of maybe Fallout I can't think of a worse date.
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Muttonchips posted:A lot of stuff The wasteland is supposed to be bare of most resources and guns are supposed to be scarce.
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Muttonchips posted:-Scarcity of ammo means even when you're fully stocked up you can't blast your way through a level. Not only is it unrealistic (I can probably carry 120+ shells in a bag easy), the game is taking away choices on how you play your game. I like guns. Let me use them to blow away cars and people with reckless abandon. Let me attach machine gun to my car and blow up everything in my path. The game won't let you do whatever you want to do, you have to play by its rules. I don't like that. I agree with many of your points but these to me seem very much in keeping with the Mad Max world, especially the first one. It's a post-apocalyptic world where people are desperate for any small resource, and guns and ammo are expensive - it makes perfect sense that they are scarce and that it's not a situation where anyone wants to just spray ammo all over the wasteland with reckless abandon, and it's part of the reason why so much fighting is done hand to hand or with harpoons etc
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wyoak posted:This game is fun and really pretty (especially for something that's all desert) but has some quirks that are pretty annoying. Why are shooting controls so weird? I waste a shotgun shell every time I exit the menus - it shouldn't shoot unless I'm holding the aim button imo. Or just use a shoulder button for shooting like every other game ever (or even like itself, why is the sniper assigned to a shoulder if the shotgun isn't?) I haven't searched the menus so maybe there's a way to reassign buttons. Why do I have to watch Max fill up a canteen / gas tank each time? It feels like it takes forever and isn't interesting at all - same with riding the balloons up, it seems like it takes an unnecessarily long time to get to the point where you can survey everything. Jumping is straight terrible and any situation you have to use jump is clunky and dumb. Mostly small issues that'll hopefully be fixed with a patch, and the game scratches that open-world-checklist-game itch I have once or twice a year pretty well. Go to "Button Maps" under Settings and switch to alternate controls. B becomes evade and RB becomes shoot.
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Muttonchips posted:The game is fun at a visceral level, but I can understand the low scores as it lacks polish. Solid 8 at most. Don't see this game winning any Game of the Year awards or anything like that unless they release some patches and work out the bugs. quote:-No aircraft. A game this big needed some kind of aircraft to help navigate the rough terrain. They tease you with a balloon, but it's just a fast travel gimmick. Exclusion of motorcycle is understandable, but I am baffled they left out airplanes and gyrocopters. Imagine dropping a load of bombs from a rusted old F16 combat airplane. It would be amazing. quote:-Scarcity of ammo means even when you're fully stocked up you can't blast your way through a level. Not only is it unrealistic (I can probably carry 120+ shells in a bag easy), the game is taking away choices on how you play your game. I like guns. Let me use them to blow away cars and people with reckless abandon. Let me attach machine gun to my car and blow up everything in my path. The game won't let you do whatever you want to do, you have to play by its rules. I don't like that. Have you even seen the movies? quote:-No auto-drive mode. Even Mafia II had an auto-drive mode. Would have been a feature so you could set a destination and kick back. quote:-Dull AI The bad guys seem to be stuck in a perpetual cycle of rushing at me over and over again. Why not run upstairs and jump off a balcony to land a surprise kick? Why not attack me all at once? Instead in fights they will literally circle around attacking one by one. Same goes when they are trying to run me over. Boring! Sounds like your main issue with this game is that it's not Just Cause.
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TERRIBLE SHITLORD posted:It's a post apocalyptic world. A gyrocopter would be the most they could get away with and that would be way more boring than driving. actually there was some kind of weird bush plane in one of the earlier movies - I agree that having an F16 would be ridiculous overkill but there is definitely some cool stuff that could be done with small prop planes or helicopters in a post-apocalyptic world like this. that little helicopter thing in Far Cry 4 was great and that type of vehicle would be a good fit for Mad Max as well with some modifications.
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I was half-dead and scrounging for scrap and I saw a lizard. Immediately bolted from what I was doing, stomped it dead, and devoured its corpse raw like a hungry animal to get a bit of health back. Later on I was picking scrap out of a trash heap when I realized I could hear rats squeaking. The next several minutes were spent chasing them across the sands so I could stomp and eat them. A+++ would scrabble for survival again Rugged stubbly grim-faced leather-clad protector cradling a cute animal in his arms in a fatherly fashion. Dang, this year's Wasteland Hunks calendar is really pulling out all the stops.  I rammed a convoy leader from behind and almost destroyed it. The fuel tank ruptured, and this happened. It toasted three of its escorts trying to escape from me, but I caught it, and now I have a loving radical horned skull ornament on the front of my car  TERRIBLE SHITLORD posted:Well warboys are not exactly known for their tactical prowess. I love this game a lot so far, but I do think that harder, more dangerous hand-to-hand fighting would improve it. Even if only occasionally, it would be neat if enemies would attack you two at a time and force you to evade or position yourself in such a way that you could parry one and block the other with his body.
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Earwicker posted:also I think it has the best car engine sounds of any game i've played recently including proper driving sims no kidding, even the v6 sounds like the drat devil
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Muttonchips posted:The game won't let you do whatever you want to do, you have to play by its rules. I don't like that. Your concerns are all reasonable, but it sounds like you want it to be a different game than it is.
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Earwicker posted:I agree with many of your points but these to me seem very much in keeping with the Mad Max world, especially the first one. It's a post-apocalyptic world where people are desperate for any small resource, and guns and ammo are expensive - it makes perfect sense that they are scarce and that it's not a situation where anyone wants to just spray ammo all over the wasteland with reckless abandon, and it's part of the reason why so much fighting is done hand to hand or with harpoons etc Cactrot posted:The wasteland is supposed to be bare of most resources and guns are supposed to be scarce. TERRIBLE SHITLORD posted:This is a legitimate concern. Although first person is not essential to the game it would have been nice to have the option. I have seen the movies, and there is a character literally covered in bullets and various ammunition. A car has to be worth a few bullets. Let me steal enemy cars and turn it in for ammo. If you want to be a melee fighter that's fine, I would have appreciated a chance to use more guns is all. More choices are always a good thing. Fun is subjective. I like shooting people in the face, not driving around. Warboys are actually excellent tacticians and take directions well. Remember how Nux is able to knock out the entire convoy with his brilliant move? I just wonder how they could have tackled this particular issue. It's certainly not unique to this game.
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T1g4h posted:Maybe i'm just not burned out on this style like a lot of gamers, but i've never touched the Batman games, never played any Assassin's Creed except for 4, and am thoroughly enjoying the way Mad Max plays. This is pretty much me. I can completely understand people who've played all the ubisoft style checklist games being burned out because this game is very much one of those, but I think this is an instance where that kind of game not being my usual jam has paid dividends.  Between Rockstar and WB games I hope more devs realise that a good way to spread word of mouth about your game is to give the player some really awesome ways to get media out there. Every game should have at least a rudimentary cinematic screenshot feature.
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Muttonchips posted:Fun is subjective. I like shooting people in the face, not driving around. Ok but it's mainly a driving game? Like I said I agree with some of your points but with some of other arguments I'm just like "so why did you even buy this game in the first place". I mean if you want a game where you see from a first person perspective and blast your way through levels with big guns and ridiculous amounts of ammo shooting everyone in the face, there are lots of games like that - but it seems kind of silly to expect that in a Mad Max game which is, quite naturally, going to be focused on driving around in a desert with scarce resources rather than on gunplay. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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Angry Diplomat posted:
I took the exact same screenshot, same spot and everything. It was one of the ones I ultimately deleted but that's really quite funny. Muttonchips posted:
You're a picky one man.
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Muttonchips posted:How about a working hot air balloon? A gyrocopter could be fun to ride around in if you could throw bombs out of it. Would give you a new option for tackling convoys. Drop snakes you idiot, snakes.
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Muttonchips, most of your issues are that it's not a shooter. Fury Road had the most guns of all the movies, but ammo was still an issue and a plot point at times. Go back to Road Warrior and it's a Very Big Deal. Max starts the final chase sequence and is given the entire cache of shotgun shells they have, about 6 in total. Humungus has literally 5 bullets for his prized Magnum, and when trying to stop Max returning the truck to the camp he loads just one of those bullets. They are so rare he doesn't even want to have the temptation to use a second one. Later, you know poo poo is going down as he loads up all four remaining shells. The scarcity of ammo is a deliberate choice, and entirely in keeping with the movies. Car chases, fist fights, and a bit of shooting, that's the classic Mad Max mix right there.
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Muttonchips posted:True, but I would have appreciated the option to turn in scraps for ammo. I just hate how limited you are with shivs and shotguns. Sounds like you just want a completely different game instead of what Avalanche wanted to create.
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midge posted:Drop snakes you idiot, snakes. 
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Muttonchips posted:Fun is subjective. I like shooting people in the face, not driving around. Conversely, I'd like it if someone could take all the stupid 2-legged parts of the game out. Thanks.
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I love playing photographer.    And an alternate version of that last one: 
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Muttonchips posted:-No aircraft. A game this big needed some kind of aircraft to help navigate the rough terrain. They tease you with a balloon, but it's just a fast travel gimmick. Exclusion of motorcycle is understandable, but I am baffled they left out airplanes and gyrocopters. Imagine dropping a load of bombs from a rusted old F16 combat airplane. It would be amazing. You have some legitimate concerns, but these aren't "flaws," so much as they're deliberate design decisions to stay within the theme of the world. I understand if you don't like them, but they aren't mistakes overlooked by the developers.
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 Max Noir  So shiny~  So graceful~
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Muttonchips posted:The game is fun at a visceral level, but I can understand the low scores as it lacks polish. Solid 8 at most. Don't see this game winning any Game of the Year awards or anything like that unless they release some patches and work out the bugs. Yeaaaah. No.
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More importantly, I talked to the lady south of Jeet's Stronghold ( the Wasteland : Legend ) mission, and she told me to do some sick jumps for Griffa Points. But I didn't get a map marker for it, and did a few sick jumps off the nearby ramps, and didn't seem to get anything for it. And now she's vanished. What the hell?
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Rookersh posted:More importantly, I talked to the lady south of Jeet's Stronghold ( the Wasteland : Legend ) mission, and she told me to do some sick jumps for Griffa Points. But I didn't get a map marker for it, and did a few sick jumps off the nearby ramps, and didn't seem to get anything for it. They're marked in the Colossus area of Jeet's territory.
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Rookersh posted:More importantly, I talked to the lady south of Jeet's Stronghold ( the Wasteland : Legend ) mission, and she told me to do some sick jumps for Griffa Points. But I didn't get a map marker for it, and did a few sick jumps off the nearby ramps, and didn't seem to get anything for it. They don't stick around once they give you the mission. Just go do a bunch of ramps for points and probably you get some more points for doing them all.
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Daztek posted:They're marked in the Colossus area of Jeet's territory. So they are! There is so much stuff on my map I never noticed. 
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Sedisp posted:Yeaaaah. No. Fallout 3/NV/4 and GTA5, and only the re-release, are the only games I can think of that allow a switch between third and first person (and switching to third person view in Fallout was pretty pointless unless you wanted to peek around corners, the animations are limited at best). I guess the Rainbow Six Vegas games count but its only third person when you're in cover. What other game has ever done that? Is this the next pointless "thing" that people are going to start demanding because one big game did it?
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Why is Fury Road level saturation not an option while playing and only in the camera mode? If you set it to video mode you can play with all filters and stuff enabled 
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See this game just doesn't scream "FURY ROAD" enough at me. Because I would play the poo poo out of a Fury Road actual game, but this I am not so sold on. Still seems interesting and may pick it up in a couple of months, but I'm not really seeing anything that won't make me save my money for the DVD of Fury Road.
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Daztek posted:If you set it to video mode you can play with all filters and stuff enabled Oh, ok, cool. Most of the screenshots and videos shown so far aren't using that then. I guess because the players have  taste. 
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