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Chalupa Joe: Mar 4, 2007

A Winner is Jew posted:

This.

Decent amp (one that can overdrive naturally) + delay +wah = being able to play like 75% of all guitar parts.

Throw in a fuzz/distortion and a phaser/vibrato and you're up to 90%.

That explains U2 at least.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 01:52

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# ? May 30, 2024 13:02

Dang It Bhabhi!: May 27, 2004; ASK ME ABOUT
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What if you played the brown note with the brown sound? The dreaded double browning!

# ? Sep 3, 2015 02:28

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

shiksa posted:

trying to get eddie van halen's van halen I tone with super expensive gear is especially funny to me because no one stops and thinks for a second about how eddie was playing on a mish-mash of cheap poo poo and was just very good at playing guitar.

that and he was constantly dicking around with his equipment so it was basically never the same thing from month to month sometimes

# ? Sep 3, 2015 02:34

spacemang_spliff: Nov 29, 2014; wide pickle

Zonekeeper posted:

Gonna quote somebody from ages ago in this thread:

Tonechasers/bluesdads who spend mountains of cash trying to sound like their idols will never admit to themselves that if you're good you'll sound good even on poo poo equipment.

The "secret" to every good player's sound is having skill. Gear matters, but not nearly as much as they think.

Yeah I saw Reggie Wooten playing a Squier and his tone was amazing.

Tone is in the hands

# ? Sep 3, 2015 03:09

Hollis Brownsound: Apr 2, 2009; by Lowtax

Salt Fish posted:

Joe Satrinai playing an 80 dollar guitar I believe the guy's house its at is a goon and he posted about it in ML.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9v5e1TTwts

that is some deeply uninteresting music.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 03:14

shiksa: Nov 9, 2009; i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Hollis Brownsound posted:

that is some deeply uninteresting music.

such is a guitar virtuoso

# ? Sep 3, 2015 04:55

Mr. Mambold: Feb 13, 2011; Aha. Nice post.

Hollis Brownsound posted:

that is some deeply uninteresting music.

This. Etude in boring rear end riffery

# ? Sep 3, 2015 14:37

Hollis Brownsound: Apr 2, 2009; by Lowtax

Nah, it's just that he was probably never very creative.

I hate that there exists this narrative that I hear repeated over and over along the lines of "virtuosity is enemy of creativity". It's loving dumb and only trumpeted by talentless people without practice ethic.

take some Shakti for instance every single one of these guys is a virtuoso and managed to make some very listenable music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUy9SXBQZNM

# ? Sep 3, 2015 14:59

I'm Crap: Aug 15, 2001

thank you for this sonic representation of "white person wearing a kaftan"

# ? Sep 3, 2015 15:02

Hollis Brownsound: Apr 2, 2009; by Lowtax

I'm Crap posted:

thank you for this sonic representation of "white person wearing a kaftan"

calm down tumblrina, Indian culture will survive this savage appropriation.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 15:17

Spanish Manlove: Aug 31, 2008; HAILGAYSATAN

Hollis Brownsound posted:

calm down tumblrina, Indian culture will survive this savage appropriation.

it's not "white person appropriating culture" it's more "stereotypical hippie douchebag gear"

# ? Sep 3, 2015 15:20

Dang It Bhabhi!: May 27, 2004; ASK ME ABOUT
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When tone meets virtuosity and creativity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82HFsxej4g&t=40s

# ? Sep 3, 2015 15:22

Hollis Brownsound: Apr 2, 2009; by Lowtax

Spanish Manlove posted:

it's not "white person appropriating culture" it's more "stereotypical hippie douchebag gear"

it's more that he's making ironic comments based on stuff that sounds vaguely indian. John McGlaughlin pretty much always rocked a t shirt and the rest of the dudes were indian so?

# ? Sep 3, 2015 15:24

Spanish Manlove: Aug 31, 2008; HAILGAYSATAN

Hollis Brownsound posted:

it's more that he's making ironic comments based on stuff that sounds vaguely indian. John McGlaughlin pretty much always rocked a t shirt and the rest of the dudes were indian so?

then my mistake

# ? Sep 3, 2015 15:26

I'm Crap: Aug 15, 2001

Spanish Manlove posted:

it's not "white person appropriating culture" it's more "stereotypical hippie douchebag gear"

that is what i meant

# ? Sep 3, 2015 15:42

Mr. Mambold: Feb 13, 2011; Aha. Nice post.

Hollis Brownsound posted:

it's more that he's making ironic comments based on stuff that sounds vaguely indian. John McGlaughlin pretty much always rocked a t shirt and the rest of the dudes were indian so?

hell, it's button-ups in this- and hell, I like how they button up that melody. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p71QK5TZDCc

# ? Sep 3, 2015 16:42

ZombieParts: Jul 18, 2009; ASK ME ABOUT VISITING PROSTITUTES IN CHINA AND FEELING NO SHAME. MY FRIEND IS SERIOUSLY THE (PATHETIC) YODA OF PAYING WOMEN TO TOUCH HIS (AND MY) DICK. THEY WOULDN'T DO IT OTHERWISE.

Zonekeeper posted:

Gonna quote somebody from ages ago in this thread:

Tonechasers/bluesdads who spend mountains of cash trying to sound like their idols will never admit to themselves that if you're good you'll sound good even on poo poo equipment.

The "secret" to every good player's sound is having skill. Gear matters, but not nearly as much as they think.

As Joe proves in that video, even the best player in the world can't make a lovely lunchbox amp sound better than it actually is.

A Winner is Jew posted:

Decent amp (one that can overdrive naturally) + delay +wah = being able to play like 75% of all guitar parts.

Throw in a fuzz/distortion and a phaser/vibrato and you're up to 90%.

12" speakers are a must. People that play 10 inch speakers long term must hate the full range of guitar sounds as well as themselves and those around them forced to listen to their pathetic mewling

Introducing a little quality equipment makes all the difference. If your equipment doesn't sound that good or is "ok for practice" then your inspiration is going to be really small.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 16:43

Iucounu: May 12, 2007

4x10 Bassman amps are rad. So are 3x10 Vibro-King amps.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 16:55

Dirt: May 26, 2003

4x10 Fender Super Reverb is my favorite amp of all time.

Don't need much else.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 17:42

Actuary X: Jul 20, 2007; Not really the best actuary in the world.

yes the most important thing about a speaker is its radius

# ? Sep 3, 2015 18:29

unlawfulsoup: May 12, 2001; Welcome home boys!

Suck it up 10"ailures.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:03

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

ZombieParts posted:

12" speakers are a must. People that play 10 inch speakers long term must hate the full range of guitar sounds as well as themselves and those around them forced to listen to their pathetic mewling.

same but with 15" speakers

# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:06

A Winner is Jew: Feb 14, 2008; by exmarx

I only play on an 8" :flaccid:

I also don't mic and use the on board speaker emulation to record. :hitler:

# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:07

Sockington: Jul 26, 2003

A Winner is Jew posted:

I only play on an 8"

I also don't mic and use the on board speaker emulation to record.

I'm hoping to move to 8s... QSC K8 :smug:

# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:17

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

a microcube with the stock speaker replaced with an actual guitar speaker is surprisingly nice sounding

# ? Sep 3, 2015 19:20

darkwasthenight: Jan 7, 2011; GENE TRAITOR

First person to claim 10" speakers have no bass range wins a no-prize cookie for not understand mixing.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 22:36

unlawfulsoup: May 12, 2001; Welcome home boys!

darkwasthenight posted:

First person to claim 10" speakers have no bass range wins a no-prize cookie for not understand mixing.

Well you see until speakers reach 12", the air cannot be expanded around the cone adequately, so it will fail to push the air hard enough to generate what ruffians and commoners call "bass". This is covered in Alfred vonTonedad's expansive works Volume I & IV on tonal discrepencies in relation to deficient speaker size and qualities.

# ? Sep 3, 2015 23:27

NonzeroCircle: Apr 12, 2010; El Camino

Bass microcube sounds pretty good for middly punky new-stringy tones, then you plug in a five string and it sounds like a tuba in a dustbin.

I can't remember what brand it was, but I once bought a really cheap new wah off ebay. I plugged it after my distortion, no sound. Before my distortion, no sound. On it's own, fine (but what you'd expect a 25 quid pedal to sound like). I messaged the seller/maker and his reply was "it doesn't work in series, it's not designed to". What the actual gently caress. Sent it back that day.

# ? Sep 4, 2015 00:20

strangemusic: Aug 7, 2008; I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!

I haven't been in this thread in a while, has this been posted?

http://imgur.com/pw7NrWu

:barf:

# ? Sep 4, 2015 01:05

ZombieParts: Jul 18, 2009; ASK ME ABOUT VISITING PROSTITUTES IN CHINA AND FEELING NO SHAME. MY FRIEND IS SERIOUSLY THE (PATHETIC) YODA OF PAYING WOMEN TO TOUCH HIS (AND MY) DICK. THEY WOULDN'T DO IT OTHERWISE.

NonzeroCircle posted:

Bass microcube sounds pretty good for middly punky new-stringy tones, then you plug in a five string and it sounds like a tuba in a dustbin.

I can't remember what brand it was, but I once bought a really cheap new wah off ebay. I plugged it after my distortion, no sound. Before my distortion, no sound. On it's own, fine (but what you'd expect a 25 quid pedal to sound like). I messaged the seller/maker and his reply was "it doesn't work in series, it's not designed to". What the actual gently caress. Sent it back that day.

That's the thing...

darkwasthenight posted:

First person to claim 10" speakers have no bass range wins a no-prize cookie for not understand mixing.

You're talking about recording and yeah, the YouTube wannabe superstars can record an HT1 with 1990s epiphone and make it sound perfectly fine but the reality is, it's a lunchbox and sounds like a lunchbox if you are in a room with it and there's nothing that can be done to make it nice in person. I only know of one 10 inch speaker in the guitar world that can cover the same range as even a basic 12". And who cares because none of you here that play 10s would have invested the money to get a nice 10" to begin with. I only know about that speaker because my first cab was a 4x10. Actually there are 2 now because Celestion came out with the G10 gold.

Sockington posted:

I'm hoping to move to 8s... QSC K8

I'm sure they're great but why K8 when they have a K12?

NonzeroCircle posted:

Bass microcube sounds pretty good for middly punky new-stringy tones, then you plug in a five string and it sounds like a tuba in a dustbin.

I can't remember what brand it was, but I once bought a really cheap new wah off ebay. I plugged it after my distortion, no sound. Before my distortion, no sound. On it's own, fine (but what you'd expect a 25 quid pedal to sound like). I messaged the seller/maker and his reply was "it doesn't work in series, it's not designed to". What the actual gently caress. Sent it back that day.

Tiny amps and beginner amps in general have come so far it's unbelievable. Babby's first tube amp - the Bugera are an unbelievable dream come true (self bias?? super cool) because of price and ease of use and modification.

What the hell am I doing? gently caress you beer

# ? Sep 4, 2015 03:57

W424: Oct 21, 2010

darkwasthenight posted:

First person to claim 10" speakers have no bass range wins a no-prize cookie for not understand mixing.

Guitars bass range is extremely important in a mix. If there is any, eq all that poo poo out.

# ? Sep 4, 2015 07:09

NonzeroCircle: Apr 12, 2010; El Camino

But how do I djent if there isnt a terrible 45hz hum every time I palm mute? Next you'll be telling me that all drums on Superior Drummer shouldn't always be 127 velocity and compressed to poo poo!

# ? Sep 4, 2015 10:05

unlawfulsoup: May 12, 2001; Welcome home boys!

If your guitar sounds like a guitar when its coming out of your amp, you are doing something wrong.

# ? Sep 4, 2015 10:19

darkwasthenight: Jan 7, 2011; GENE TRAITOR

ZombieParts posted:

You're talking about recording and yeah, the YouTube wannabe superstars can record an HT1 with 1990s epiphone and make it sound perfectly fine but the reality is, it's a lunchbox and sounds like a lunchbox if you are in a room with it and there's nothing that can be done to make it nice in person. I only know of one 10 inch speaker in the guitar world that can cover the same range as even a basic 12". And who cares because none of you here that play 10s would have invested the money to get a nice 10" to begin with. I only know about that speaker because my first cab was a 4x10. Actually there are 2 now because Celestion came out with the G10 gold.

W424 posted:

Guitars bass range is extremely important in a mix. If there is any, eq all that poo poo out.

My favourite part of engineering is watching the guitarist's face as I take their carefully crafted and minutely mic'd tone and immediately nuke everything below about 90hz. "Not going to be needing any of this poo poo..."

I did work with a bassless band the other week and took pity and let him keep some, but eh.

# ? Sep 4, 2015 11:27

Mr. Mambold: Feb 13, 2011; Aha. Nice post.

unlawfulsoup posted:

If your guitar sounds like a guitar when its coming out of your amp, you are doing something wrong.

There's a joke here about coming out that features guitars posted itvt....

# ? Sep 4, 2015 14:50

Spanish Manlove: Aug 31, 2008; HAILGAYSATAN

darkwasthenight posted:

My favourite part of engineering is watching the guitarist's face as I take their carefully crafted and minutely mic'd tone and immediately nuke everything below about 90hz. "Not going to be needing any of this poo poo..."

I did work with a bassless band the other week and took pity and let him keep some, but eh.

guitar players EQ their amps to sound like a finalized recording and then forget that part of recording is multitracking

# ? Sep 4, 2015 14:52

Sockington: Jul 26, 2003

ZombieParts posted:

I'm sure they're great but why K8 when they have a K12?

K12 is 75* dispersion
K10 is 90* dispersion
K8 is 105* dispersion

So for band monitors, it covers a wider range.

# ? Sep 4, 2015 14:53

KozmoNaut: Apr 23, 2008; Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEST5pBp078

# ? Sep 4, 2015 15:36

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

my grandma had a gti like that one

it was a pretty sweet little car

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auzdark: Aug 29, 2005; Mercy is the cry of the soul that stirred,
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KozmoNaut posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEST5pBp078

This was basically every band I saw in Morocco too. Those delicious riffs...

Yeah, 90s tinny midi is still a huge thing in those sort of places.

# ? Sep 4, 2015 18:01

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