bowser posted:

This entire page (click and drag w/ your mouse).

blarzgh posted:

I think iconoclasm, like anything, is only good in moderation. The barrier between healthy cynicism, and rejection for its own sake is where thoughtfulness turns to petulance, and where selfishness masquerades and selflessness.

Ka0 posted:

Ladies and gents, the future

winnydpu posted:

I'm in favor of mocking any identifiable group, but I am amazed at how unaware each "generation" is of themselves. It kills me that they can sell baby boomers adult diapers and life insurance with the same "you're special, not like your parents" message that they've used to market to the boomers for the last 40 years. I grew up in the '80s, and we all showed how independent and free of marketing we were by wearing identical costumes to the punk shows sold to us through ticketmaster.


I'm 45, and most of the folks in my office are right out of school. They seem to have their poo poo together no more or no less then we did at that age. I think lack of self awareness, an inflated ego and self-importance are what see you through until you've acquired enough of a skill base to stand on your history. If I was aware of how much of a tool I was when I was younger I'd have been unable to function. When I'm 65 I will probably think that about how I am now.

At least the millennials are less casually racist and homophobic that my generation. Hell of a lot more crying at work than I'm comfortable with, however...

winnydpu posted:

I'm in favor of mocking any identifiable group, but I am amazed at how unaware each "generation" is of themselves. It kills me that they can sell baby boomers adult diapers and life insurance with the same "you're special, not like your parents" message that they've used to market to the boomers for the last 40 years. I grew up in the '80s, and we all showed how independent and free of marketing we were by wearing identical costumes to the punk shows sold to us through ticketmaster.


I'm 45, and most of the folks in my office are right out of school. They seem to have their poo poo together no more or no less then we did at that age. I think lack of self awareness, an inflated ego and self-importance are what see you through until you've acquired enough of a skill base to stand on your history. If I was aware of how much of a tool I was when I was younger I'd have been unable to function. When I'm 65 I will probably think that about how I am now.

At least the millennials are less casually racist and homophobic that my generation. Hell of a lot more crying at work than I'm comfortable with, however...

ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:

Gimme a start-date-end-date for millenials.

Ocean Book posted:

ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:

Gimme a start-date-end-date for millenials.

notZaar posted:

Basically it starts when the kids who really grew up with the internet were born, so sometime early 80s. Though there is a big distinction between the kids who grew up with AOL instant messenger and GeoCities, and the kids who grew up with Facebook and Twitter (as in the latter group turned into a bunch of spineless pussies who bend over backwards to accept every type of pervert and malefactor under the sun into the mainstream).

ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:

Gimme a start-date-end-date for millenials.

Funky See Funky Do posted:

1982 - 1999. I can't remember what late 70s-very early 80s is called but we're basically a super generation that is better than everyone else.

Funky See Funky Do posted:

1982 - 1999. I can't remember what late 70s-very early 80s is called but we're basically a super generation that is better than everyone else.

Bobcats posted:

I read an article that called us The Oregon Trail Generation. Basically we're good for siphoning away Boomer dollars so the Millennials can spend it on Minecraft Otherkin Parties.

Bobcats posted:

I read an article that called us The Oregon Trail Generation. Basically we're good for siphoning away Boomer dollars so the Millennials can spend it on Minecraft Otherkin Parties.

Funky See Funky Do posted:

1982 - 1999. I can't remember what late 70s-very early 80s is called but we're basically a super generation that is better than everyone else.

quote:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-07/sat-scores-decline-for-2014-high-school-class-as-act-grabs-share

"Uhh, this test shows that we're getting dumber and lazier."
"Man gently caress tht test we dont need it to tell us weer smart. Lets just not take it anymore."

nnnotime posted:

http://www.sltrib.com/home/2910855-155/many-millennials-see-themselves-as-self-absorbed

Funky See Funky Do posted:

That's where I got it from! We had a different game here called Gumboots Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIoYDwFl9Go

ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:

As an eigthy-oner this delights me.

Squashy Nipples posted:

The cut off for Gen X is usually 1978, so there are a good 4 years of inbetweeners.

Ocean Book posted:

I get this but it seems to me that the problem isnt located in the millenials themselves but instead its the culture they exist in lacking any alternative value systems to consumption. Consuption-as-achievement has become the only widely recognized value system, so identity and social positioning is determined by the sign value of commodites you consume. seen literally anywhere on the internet but close to home in any "If you like (consumable product) you are a (negative/positive identity marker)" gbs thread.

what seems different to me of this view from your view is that this bundling of consumption with identity doesnt come from the self, but comes from policing by the Other. this is what i think fuels the small-scale conspicuous consumption you see in people taking photographs of meals or posting statuses about listening to song X. the narcissism of these displays is not driven by an internal sense of self-exceptionalism but from having your hand forced into playing the only game in town. no individual can elect to not have their identity and social positioning determined by the Other based on the sign value of their consumption, so what reason does a contemporary individual have to not leverage this sign value to positively influence social position?

the obvious answer is an intrinsic set of strongly held internal values that are otherwise oriented, which i think is something worth developing but i cant blame a social mammal for following the pull of reinforcement, status gain, and herd instincts.

Maybe this is what you are getting at but what I'm getting from your posts is more of a 'there is something wrong with millenials' vs 'there is something wrong with the cultural framework/ value system millenials exist in', which is a distinction i think is worth making but maybe you dont/ maybe thats what you were saying all along.

herer read this for the long better version of what i was saying


http://thenewinquiry.com/?essays=the-resentment-machine

Funky See Funky Do posted:

We had a different game here called Gumboots Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIoYDwFl9Go

nomadologique posted:

LOL

can you go waltzing matilda?

nomadologique posted:

none of those things is a thing that actual laborers did in actual america

quote:

The title was Australian slang for travelling on foot (waltzing, derived from the German auf der Walz) with one's belongings in a "Matilda" (swag) slung over one's back.

quote:

Particularly during the Depression of the 1890s and the Great Depression of the 1930s, unemployed men travelled the rural areas of Australia on foot, their few meagre possessions rolled up and carried in their swag. Typically, they would seek work in farms and towns they travelled through, and in many cases the farmers, if no permanent work was available, would provide food and shelter in return for some menial task.

Analytic Engine posted:

The Last Pyschiatrist wrote lots of good stuff on millenials, narcissism, and class tensions:

Hipsters on Food Stamps, Part 2

quote:

It's a simple thesis and no one wants to hear it: hipsters may lack drive, but the world they live in wasn't set up by them, it was set up by their parents, i.e. the Dumbest Generation Of Narcissists In The History Of The World, the ones who magnified the importance and cost of college without having any idea of what should be its purpose, let alone its content.

Analytic Engine posted:

The Last Pyschiatrist wrote lots of good stuff on millenials, narcissism, and class tensions:

Hipsters on Food Stamps, Part 2