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Shlomo Palestein posted:Counties are of varying strength depending on where you live. Massachusetts has incredibly weak county gov't, for example. I think they're basically in charge of prisons and prisoner-work crews, and that's about it. In Massachusetts, about half the counties have no government anymore and most of the rest are nearly there. But back in the 19th century before they started to be dissolved, they did have the same clerk/sheriff setup. Same thing with Connecticut, though there all the counties lack government and only exist for regional delineation. Mel Mudkiper posted:I keep hearing this and its tedious. Why does it matter if she gets to play martyr if the rights of gay Americans are concretely protected in the most unambiguous language possible? It's this exactly. No matter what happened, the only way she couldn't claim martyr is if the government had thrown up its hands and let her break laws.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Hahha whoever runs gofundme must be cashing out before they make the current Grand Dragon Wizard of Whiteverly place a millionaire and the world notices. I thought the whole point of that site was the anyhing goes nature of it. Maybe they learned that everything isn't strawberry shortcake and rainbows by letting poo poo heads ruin your brand~~ Like seriously, when you think of GoFundMe, the first thing that used to pop into your mind would have been "low rent Kickstarter". Now it's "that place where people do reprehensible poo poo and get paid for it" because of Ferguson and the plethora of bakeries ran by morons.
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Phone posted:Maybe they learned that everything isn't strawberry shortcake and rainbows by letting poo poo heads ruin your brand~~ If I were a shittier person I would be starting up a new crowd funding site for racists/homophobes to fill this necessary market niche. Call it something like stormfrontme, take a huge percentage, then buy a giant diesel truck and roll coal all over the concept of a decent society
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Sep 4, 2015 17:29
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Countdown till Breitbart says "While BLM activists kill police officers, OBAMAO is dancing with kids in Alaska" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90YZc3k7rdI
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015...fire-hoses.html Todd Starnes is a poo poo bag excuse for a human being.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:I could be wrong, but I think there was also the possibility that she just step aside and let some subordinate do it, but refused, so that's why she's in the hot seat. It's worked so far in anti-contraception ACA cases.
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015...fire-hoses.html Christ, what a hack.
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015...fire-hoses.html quote:But Gov. Beshear refused to do so – blocking the door to the statehouse much like Alabama Gov. George Wallace blocked the door to the schoolhouse in defiance of racial integration. Now I'm no expert on logical fallacies, but I think this might be false equivalence. Also, posting this picture of Todd Starnes again because it's important for people to remember what he looks like whenever one of his articles comes up. 
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What is with the right's obsession with equating intolerance for gay rights with the civil rights movement? It's an absurd comparison that would fit well in an Onion article, yet it keeps getting trotted out again and again.
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Motto posted:What is with the right's obsession with equating intolerance for gay rights with the civil rights movement? It's an absurd comparison that would fit well in an Onion article, yet it keeps getting trotted out again and again. "Not recognizing our right to be complete bigots is an infringement on our rights!"
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Sep 4, 2015 19:05
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Motto posted:What is with the right's obsession with equating intolerance for gay rights with the civil rights movement? It's an absurd comparison that would fit well in an Onion article, yet it keeps getting trotted out again and again. They were trying to compare themselves to abolitionists on AFA Radio. The thing is, their particular brand of christianity and their place of origin lends me to believe they'd have been on the opposite side of that debate.
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Zeroisanumber posted:"Not recognizing our right to be complete bigots is an infringement on our rights!" Like, it's just as silly when they try to frame it as oppression of Christians, but that's at least comparing persecution to (imagined) persecution. But all too often I'm seeing people straight up say that the movement to stop gay marriage is equivalent to the movement to grant and protect the rights of racial minorities. Is oppressing gays really so core to evangelical belief that "ban gay marriage" is completely synonymous in their minds with "protect the right to be Christian"? Motto fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Sep 4, 2015 |
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Sep 4, 2015 19:10
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Motto posted:Like, it's just as silly when they try to frame it as oppression of Christians, but that's at least comparing persecution to (imagined) persecution. But all too often I'm seeing people straight up say that the movement to stop gay marriage is equivalent to the movement to grant and protect the rights of racial minorities. Anyone who says that is too stupid to pay attention to on political matters.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Now I'm no expert on logical fallacies, but I think this might be false equivalence. Also, posting this picture of Todd Starnes again because it's important for people to remember what he looks like whenever one of his articles comes up. Credit to the Goon who noticed the similarities with Nazi doctor from Captain America 
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Conservatives desperately want to be a persecuted minority while still having the benefits of being a majority class/sexual identity/race over actual minorities. Basically they can't just be happy having privilege, they also want actual minorities to kiss their rear end and thank them for not making their lives even more miserable and also to not be impolite and talk about anything "unpleasant." Take for instance how not allowing bigots to influence government is just as bad as how black people were/are treated in America but gay people should be happy they aren't being actively murdered like in a third world country.
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Motto posted:What is with the right's obsession with equating intolerance for gay rights with the civil rights movement? It's an absurd comparison that would fit well in an Onion article, yet it keeps getting trotted out again and again. they lack self-awareness, perspective, and are generally extremely whiny idiots
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Sep 4, 2015 19:18
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Plus she is gonna make like 800,000 pre-taxes as one lump sum in exchange for losing her job. That is hardly filthy rich. What's this? Crowdfunding?
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Motto posted:What is with the right's obsession with equating intolerance for gay rights with the civil rights movement? It's an absurd comparison that would fit well in an Onion article, yet it keeps getting trotted out again and again.
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Radish posted:Conservatives desperately want to be a persecuted minority while still having the benefits of being a majority class/sexual identity/race over actual minorities. Basically they can't just be happy having privilege, they also want actual minorities to kiss their rear end and thank them for not making their lives even more miserable and also to not be impolite and talk about anything "unpleasant." Take for instance how not bigots influence government is just as bad as how black people were/are treated in America but gay people should be happy they aren't being actively murdered like in a third world country. This. It's not enough to be in charge everyone needs to be constantly back patting you too, it's the same thing that drives fan fiction writers.
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Also, for years conservatives have heard gay rights being compared to the civil rights movement which is obviously completely ridiculous because they are The Good Guys so how can they possibly be on the wrong side of the issue? A lot of people legitimately see that comparison as nothing more than a shameless tactic by the left to co-opt the civil rights movement. Trying to turn the analogy around is part of their victim complex but it's also a spiteful jab at leftist rhetoric.
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It also functions as a surprisingly effective deflection. The more time they spend shouting "aren't we the real Rosa Parks here" the more people forget to point out,and the less time they have to spend being reminded, that they're actually Bull Connor.
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Radish posted:Conservatives desperately want to be a persecuted minority while still having the benefits of being a majority class/sexual identity/race over actual minorities. Basically they can't just be happy having privilege, they also want actual minorities to kiss their rear end and thank them for not making their lives even more miserable and also to not be impolite and talk about anything "unpleasant." Take for instance how not allowing bigots to influence government is just as bad as how black people were/are treated in America but gay people should be happy they aren't being actively murdered like in a third world country. They've looked at the language used by minorities and the oppressed to point out the conditions in which they've had to live, and recognized that those words, and the accompanying actions they gradually led to, were effective in creating societal change. The logical leap is that if they just use the same magic words that made it so that we couldn't say the n-word anymore, then everything will roll back to the way it was in the Good Ole Days. The right is trying to cast Reverse Counterspell.
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Leofish posted:They've looked at the language used by minorities and the oppressed to point out the conditions in which they've had to live, and recognized that those words, and the accompanying actions they gradually led to, were effective in creating societal change. The logical leap is that if they just use the same magic words that made it so that we couldn't say the n-word anymore, then everything will roll back to the way it was in the Good Ole Days. Yup. Hence why MLK is only Republican a few days before and after MLK day. Rest of the year hes 'who?'.
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Leofish posted:They've looked at the language used by minorities and the oppressed to point out the conditions in which they've had to live, and recognized that those words, and the accompanying actions they gradually led to, were effective in creating societal change. The logical leap is that if they just use the same magic words that made it so that we couldn't say the n-word anymore, then everything will roll back to the way it was in the Good Ole Days. So Deflection?
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happyhippy posted:Yup. "MLK wouldn't approve of these protests, you uppity negroes  "
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happyhippy posted:Yup. Not always. Sometimes when he's not a Republican icon he's a notorious Communist sympathizer.
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejo...ly-shaming.htmlquote:We Need to Be Able to Call Out Kim Davis’ Bigotry without Slut-Shaming or Hillbilly-Shaming Someone on my Facebook posted this, they also mentioned we shouldn't celebrate someone getting sucked into the prison system. I thought it was a fairly interesting perspective, from my personal point of view it was a little worrying to see otherwise smart people cheering for someone to be imprisoned.
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IMO there's no reason other than mental masturbation and mollifying the crowd for this kind of idiocy. There might be effects and consequences to saying "the gays are actually the govt part of this civil rights movement" but that's not something that should be able to live outside of the conservative choir. It makes me angry that this and "my religion says i need to meddle in my employees insurance and you're a bigot for not letting me" is something propped up by enough "real" people that we skip right by the initial "what the gently caress?" and have to get into the reeds with these trolls and proud idiots. Presidential candidates are running around Iowa right now saying the supreme court can't tell you proud patriots what to do and we need to do something about them and their tyranny, and I'm getting real loving tired of the news pretending thats anything less than a really hilarious career killing gaffe. Dummies go home.
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Making fun of her looks is stupid and (unlike some other major America political parties) won't rise to any significant level among liberalism/the left. Her marriages are absolutely part of this narrative and deserve to be highlighted because it lays pretty bare exactly how much she cares about marriage as some sacred institution. They're public record for christs sake. And I don't care about someone being put in the prison system when they literally asked for it and, by all accounts, are being handled with the prison kid gloves reserved for white famous people. We're long past the need to remind the American left to be polite, we're pretty goddamn polite as is and no one with any power is shooting out "gently caress this slutty ugmo" memes. A bad person is getting a punishment they craved like a drug ohhhhhh noooooo. Edit: this is not a "the other side does it, so why don't we?" post, but I think we're waaaaaaaaaay too hung up on this sort of thing, when in reality we arent a party that promotes these kinds of insults. Do we have some uncouth people under the tent? Yeah. Are they penning best selling books every year and getting elected to every office from senate on down? No. So stop acting like the whole party needs to apologize for what johnny dumbass puts on facebook. We should already know its not cool, its highly unlikely someone is going to have the epiphany now that even low hanging fruit like this lady deserve some dignity. Or at least the opportunity to ruin it themselves. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Sep 4, 2015 |
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Someone slut shaming or hill billy shaming should, at most, have someone tell them "thats not very nice". It's not a concern for our politics and not a reason to clutch pearls in a giant article pleading with the internet to stop being the internet. People are assholes sometimes, even Democrats. Save your energy and figure out how to say it in a tweet because it's not something anyone needs to care about as much as i just did.
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Kill yourself
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Kill yourself I thought this was ironic until I noticed the LOUDER WITH CROWDER watermark. 
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codenameFANGIO posted:I thought this was ironic until I noticed the LOUDER WITH CROWDER watermark. I love how the name of his show practically says he's just going to yell over whatever you have to say / I'm louder therefore right.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Kill yourself Three Olives?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Kill yourself is crowder one of the morons who thinks the Nazis were realy evil leftists?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:is crowder one of the morons who thinks? Yes
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codenameFANGIO posted:I thought this was ironic until I noticed the LOUDER WITH CROWDER watermark. (Somebody who knows better, please correct me if I'm wrong, but) anyone could put that watermark on anything, seeing as he's only trademarked his full name, "Steven Crowder," not "Louder with Crowder." Hint, hint.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Kill yourself "What screams gay?" asks Crowder *adds contrasting purple eye shadow and teal eyeliner*
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Deep Hurting posted:(Somebody who knows better, please correct me if I'm wrong, but) anyone could put that watermark on anything, seeing as he's only trademarked his full name, "Steven Crowder," not "Louder with Crowder." 
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