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Strobe posted:Put a Proton Torpedo on Wedge. Tried it; The maths don't support it that well. It denies them 1 Agi (cos you'll fire it at Range 3, otherwise what's the point) but costs you a TL, which you could have used to just shoot Primary more effectively. The 'free' Focus doesn't apply because he's Focussed every turn anyway thanks to Dutch. It's not worth 4 points to him, sadly.
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Shockeh posted:Tried it; The maths don't support it that well. It denies them 1 Agi (cos you'll fire it at Range 3, otherwise what's the point) but costs you a TL, which you could have used to just shoot Primary more effectively. The 'free' Focus doesn't apply because he's Focussed every turn anyway thanks to Dutch. It's not worth 4 points to him, sadly. This is an incredibly lame answer when you have five points you really don't need to make the list good and don't have a firm idea what to do with.
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Sep 4, 2015 15:29
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Strobe posted:This is an incredibly lame answer when you have five points you really don't need to make the list good and don't have a firm idea what to do with. *Shrug* It is what it is, I'm trying to use the points in a way that improves my odds of winning. The bomb options were to have greater AOE clearance (dealing with Swarms) considering I'm only running 3 Ships, whilst the other main option is to give Wedge a 'cheeky' Engine Upgrade to keep him in arc, or make him more threatening. The Proton Torpedo was tried, and because of it's limitations of Range and requiring the use of a TL, I found it at best equal and in some cases inferior to just letting Wedge fire his Primary.
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Sep 4, 2015 15:34
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I'm probably biased because I've managed to get the perfect hit on a Soontir a few months back where Wedge one-shot him with a five dice torpedo that he was literally incapable of not exploding against (three hits two crits against two defense dice and no evade token. Thanks Wes.  ).
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Sep 4, 2015 15:38
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Last night saw expose Keyan throw four natural hits against a range 3 cloaked whisper through an asteroid. Imperial rolled 5 eyes and a blank on 6 dice and didn't have a focus. Don't ask me why he didn't have a focus. Always have a token. (I think he cloaked instead of barrel rolling out of range, either way 4 green with focus is way better than six without.)
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I, for one, am looking forward to welcoming our new X-Wing overlord Poe to the game. He's going to be very tough to kill. But do I run him with Lone Wolf, or VI?!?!
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Sep 4, 2015 15:50
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Push the limit & BB-8 barrel & boost/focus, green manoeuvre then focus/boost. Guy's a nightmare arc dodger.
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Sep 4, 2015 15:55
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The Gate posted:I, for one, am looking forward to welcoming our new X-Wing overlord Poe to the game. He's going to be very tough to kill. Definitely PTL. I'm still debating between BB-8 and R5-P9.
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Sep 4, 2015 15:57
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So if I want to jump in now, should I buy 2X of the new core, 1 of each, or what? I want Luke and the original ships, but I'll need 2 new decks for my wife and I. I'm going to have to buy 3 core sets aren't I? loving FFG.
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Sep 4, 2015 16:05
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I honestly don't know which is stronger- getting to reveal green into barrel roll+boost/TL, while still being able to focus with your normal action seems extraordinarily powerful. You get more action economy, can avoid getting blocked, and can use PTL without limiting your maneuvers next turn. R5P9 does offer absurd survivability though, especially since the t-70 has 3 shields
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Bottom Liner posted:So if I want to jump in now, should I buy 2X of the new core, 1 of each, or what? I want Luke and the original ships, but I'll need 2 new decks for my wife and I. I'm going to have to buy 3 core sets aren't I? loving FFG.
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Bottom Liner posted:So if I want to jump in now, should I buy 2X of the new core, 1 of each, or what? I want Luke and the original ships, but I'll need 2 new decks for my wife and I. I'm going to have to buy 3 core sets aren't I? loving FFG. Welcome to x-wing.  You don't really need two decks, though, unless you're going to run a tournament at home.
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Picked up the new core and some micro machines ships on sale at target. Cheap way to get a close-enough scale Slave I.
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Per the tracker, the store near me that had a midnight release was completely sold out of wangs within a few hours. I got to another store around the 8 AM opening and got a set, there were only a couple left at that point. And got Loopin' Chewie too, of course.
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I went WTF's Loopin' Chewie and I am sad they didn't have any when I went this morning (or it was all gone). That thing's rad.
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Sep 4, 2015 17:07
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Geisladisk posted:You can't use the pilot cards for the old X-Wing and old TIE Fighter with the new X-Wing and new TIE-Fighter. They're separate ships. The minis are just repaints aren't they? You can just use the new model with the old pilot card, dials and stand stats can't you?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:The minis are just repaints aren't they? You can just use the new model with the old pilot card, dials and stand stats can't you? No, they're entirely different. The TIE-F is a TIE-FO, and the and the X-Wing is a T-70, not a T-65.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:The minis are just repaints aren't they? You can just use the new model with the old pilot card, dials and stand stats can't you? Yeah, sorry dude, these aren't like the Z-95s. Totally new ships.
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Sep 4, 2015 17:43
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The TIE-FO is only a new model by the slimmest of margins, however.
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Sep 4, 2015 18:57
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If someone brought new core set ships and wanted to use them as original units I wouldn't object, but you don't just need the cards to do so, you'd also need the right dials since the default core and Episode 7 core ships have different movement dials and you can't just go "oh well I'll proxy those" as easily.
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind using models of either being used interchangeably but the dials are radically different. Also, if anyone has the new rulebook, see if there's any mention in there about not being able to fit obstacles in the play area. According to some people the new asteroid is even bigger than the old one so I could see cases where you literally can't fit a 6th (or maybe even 5th!) obstacle.
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Chill la Chill posted:Also, if anyone has the new rulebook, see if there's any mention in there about not being able to fit obstacles in the play area. According to some people the new asteroid is even bigger than the old one so I could see cases where you literally can't fit a 6th (or maybe even 5th!) obstacle. Nothing in the two new rulebooks about this situation occuring.
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LOL well ok. I'm pretty sure it's geometrically possible in a ~2x2 area. I just don't know if having a box in the middle is easier or if it requires the "smallest" obstacle in the middle and 4 surrounding it.
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Sep 4, 2015 19:25
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Poopy Palpy posted:The TIE-FO is only a new model by the slimmest of margins, however. The new X-Wing has a more 'hip futuristic (set in the distant past)' Wing design than the original, like how the engines look. I'm curious if FFG just repainted the X-Wing or something.
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Sep 4, 2015 19:28
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If you mean the TIE fighter, no. The engine slits are placed differently.
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jeeves posted:The new X-Wing has a more 'hip futuristic (set in the distant past)' Wing design than the original, like how the engines look. The T-70 looks a lot like some of the original McQuarrie concept art for the Death Star battle. Compare:   e: grammer r gud Tippis fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Sep 4, 2015 |
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Tippis posted:The T-70 look a lot like some of the original McQuarrie concept art for the Death Star battle. Star Wars Episode 7: Everything Old is New Again
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Tippis posted:The T-70 looks a lot like some of the original McQuarrie concept art for the Death Star battle. Right. I was responding to what a lot of people have been saying which is that the TIE fighter is just a repainted mini. It isn't, but you really can't tell it isn't unless you look at two tiny engine slits on the back (they are vertical instead of horizontal), so it doesn't really matter. Too many people have already repainted their ships to look like the new TIE-FOs and FFG has always been pretty liberal with their conversion policies so I can't see this being enforced unless they crack down hard on acceptable aftermarket conversions. e: lol looks like you changed your post to respond to the right person 
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Kai Tave posted:Star Wars Episode 7: Everything Old is New Again BB-8 is based on an original design for R2-D2.
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McQuarrie concept art seems to be a never-ending well of "new" concepts
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Chill la Chill posted:Right. I was responding to what a lot of people have been saying which is that the TIE fighter is just a repainted mini. It isn't, but you really can't tell it isn't unless you look at two tiny engine slits on the back (they are vertical instead of horizontal), so it doesn't really matter. Too many people have already repainted their ships to look like the new TIE-FOs and FFG has always been pretty liberal with their conversion policies so I can't see this being enforced unless they crack down hard on acceptable aftermarket conversions. Oh? I haven't even studied the TIEs — when I see “different engines” in relation to Ep7, I just immediately think about the T-70 and that old painting. Time to dig up some -FO photos, I guess. canyoneer posted:McQuarrie concept art seems to be a never-ending well of "new" concepts
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http://imgur.com/a/2gLdf This gallery compares the old and new TIEs, X-Wing, and Asteroids.
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Tacopocalypse posted:http://imgur.com/a/2gLdf Thanks! I'm still gonna paint the giant hole in the middle of the TIE as the engine, since it doesn't feel right otherwise. That thing is fast and needs a giant engine.
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Tacopocalypse posted:http://imgur.com/a/2gLdf Looks like there's a fair amount of difference in the detailing on the pod, too, but you have to look for it. It's more streamlined and less busy in how the pylons connect to the body. Still nothing you'd see at arm's length.
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The connecting arm to the TIE panels seems to be thicker so hopefully they feel more sturdy. I was always afraid of snapping the wings off the old TIEs.
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I like the new midget asteroids. You can do a tallon roll/hard turn and actually go around them both sides without clipping.
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Smallest of nickpick ever on imaginary spaceship designs: why does JJ have such a boner for HUGE ENGINEZ BRAH, the JJTrek Enterprise looked amazing except for the huge engines.
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Sep 4, 2015 20:25
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The x wing can now do a T-roll, aka Tokyo roll or "drift." They need oversized engines to do so IMO. Brobots can do multi-track drifting.
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Chill la Chill posted:The x wing can now do a T-roll, aka Tokyo roll or "drift." They need oversized engines to do so IMO. poo poo, that explains that!
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Chill la Chill posted:The x wing can now do a T-roll, aka Tokyo roll or "drift." They need oversized engines to do so IMO. I want the new Stars Wars movie ships to move like the Battlestar Galactica Vipers do complete with sick drifts, thank you very much.
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