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El Gallinero Gros posted:Adds up considering the story on Lanny was that he had a 3 year deal where he was never used once as a favor to his brother. He was going to be used at one point, they bought up the Gorgeous George name and had him bleach his hair and get huge on HGH, but for whatever reason he didn't work a single match with the gimmick
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EugeneJ posted:Oh gently caress I forgot TNA had a mascot named Stomper That thing looks high as gently caress. DynamiteKidd posted:He was going to be used at one point, they bought up the Gorgeous George name and had him bleach his hair and get huge on HGH, but for whatever reason he didn't work a single match with the gimmick I remember reading that. You'd think they would have thought of another idea considering he was making something like 250K a year.
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All I remember about Stomper is he scared Don West into sounding like a normal human being.
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Stomper was allegedly Hector Guerrero. No joke.
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ayn rand hand job posted:picture the big gold belt I'm talking about a custom belt that was made in the late 90s, it seems impossible to find any photos of it online.
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ayn rand hand job posted:The Machine
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Halloween Jack posted:Bear in mind that The Machine was not "loosely-based" or anything, he was a direct lift of the character from 8mm. In the movie, The Machine is a bodybuilder who drugged, raped, and murdered a girl for a snuff film. Why they thought this was an appropriate wrestling character is anybody's guess. My guess is that Russo was involved. Dunno. The Machine wrestled for the only time on the 2/2/2000 Thunder. Russo was relieved of booking scant weeks earlier in favor of Kevin Sullivan and wasn't given the book back for a few more months. It could easily be something Russo had in motion or something that Sullivan did to appease execs.
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Well, The Brood only got off the ground because Russo heavily supported it for the month(?) long period that he had full creative control. It wouldn't surprise me if something he set in motion just before he was dismissed managed to make it to TV only to just die out there. Particularly since Emory Hail had been attached to Jimmy Hart and enjoyed a mini-push on Thunder.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Today is the 20th anniversary of WCW Monday Nitro. How are we celebrating this momentous occasion? The 1st Nitro gets shown all the time so I was thinking of showing Nitro #2 tonight, followed by movies n stuff, then hopefully Nitro on Sunday and Tuesday. IT'S NITRO WEEK.
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MassRafTer posted:The 1st Nitro gets shown all the time so I was thinking of showing Nitro #2 tonight, followed by movies n stuff, then hopefully Nitro on Sunday and Tuesday. IT'S NITRO WEEK. I am extremely down for that
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1st AD posted:Should show the last nitro instead We're 2.5 years away from that! I changed my mind though, I will be showing the first 3 Nitros starting at 7 PM. http://www.psp-tv.com/r/BadMoviesWorseWrestling
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Halloween Jack posted:Bear in mind that The Machine was not "loosely-based" or anything, he was a direct lift of the character from 8mm. In the movie, The Machine is a bodybuilder who drugged, raped, and murdered a girl for a snuff film. Why they thought this was an appropriate wrestling character is anybody's guess. My guess is that Russo was involved. As somebody who's never seen 8mm and only saw the Machine's one match with DDP and thought he was just a dude in a generic mask with a generic name, what gave it away as a straight ripoff?
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ChrisBTY posted:As somebody who's never seen 8mm and only saw the Machine's one match with DDP and thought he was just a dude in a generic mask with a generic name, what gave it away as a straight ripoff? The timing: The Machine debuted shortly after 8mm hit theaters. Both quickly disappeared after their debut. The character: Both the film's antagonist and the wrestler were made out to be psychotic bodybuilders. It's WCW: 'Nuff said.
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I said this in the tube, but if you watch early Nitro when Mongo is commentating, try to keep track of the number of times you say "What the gently caress is Mongo talking about?"
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ChrisBTY posted:As somebody who's never seen 8mm and only saw the Machine's one match with DDP and thought he was just a dude in a generic mask with a generic name, what gave it away as a straight ripoff?
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I just realized that The Machine is the rarely-seen American counterpart to the storied tradition of ripping off movie characters for wrestling gimmicks (see Super Leather, Nightmare Freddy, Eddie Gilbert legit just wrestling as Michael Meyers, Jason the Terrible) EDIT: Also if he was intended as a job guy I don't know if Jimmy Hart would have been his manager DynamiteKidd fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Sep 5, 2015 |
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It's not so rare in America. Magnum TA, the Juicer, Harvey Wippleman, Sting, Waylon Mercy...that's just off the top of my head. Although these gimmicks were a bit more subtle than a guy just straight up calling himself Leatherface.
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And I just remember Lord Humongous, which was such a well-traveled gimmick on the indies in the 90s that it was at one point given to Hale! Also Sid. And Sting later ripped off a different movie, The Dark Knight.
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DynamiteKidd posted:And I just remember Lord Humongous, which was such a well-traveled gimmick on the indies in the 90s that it was at one point given to Hale! Also Sid. Sometimes you would see these gimmicks done in a really obvious way in Japan/Mexico or an indie fed where they could get away with it, then in a more subtle (subtle meaning "obvious but with the serial numbers filed off, so to speak") in a bigger company. For example, Barr wrestled as Beetlejuice in a territory before he was The Juicer in WCW.
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Halloween Jack posted:the Juicer I know the Juicer is supposed to be Beetlejuice but man it took me a second to remember that he wasn't some kind of early attempt at ripping off the Ultimate Warrior.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsprdYthBNk
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It's a glaring omission, of course, that the Road Warriors were ripoffs from The Road Warrior. But they weren't specifically Mad Max or Lord Humongous or whatever specific character. Weird that they went on to be popular enough to spawn numerous imitations themselves, although it's not hard to see why.
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Halloween Jack posted:It's a glaring omission, of course, that the Road Warriors were ripoffs from The Road Warrior. But they weren't specifically Mad Max or Lord Humongous or whatever specific character. Weird that they went on to be popular enough to spawn numerous imitations themselves, although it's not hard to see why. The Road Warriors are totally supposed to be Wez.
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DynamiteKidd posted:I just realized that The Machine is the rarely-seen American counterpart to the storied tradition of ripping off movie characters for wrestling gimmicks (see Super Leather, Nightmare Freddy, Eddie Gilbert legit just wrestling as Michael Meyers, Jason the Terrible) Paul Burchill did a Captain Jack Sparrow ripoff. Kevin Nash was Oz. Z Gangsta and Zeus
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Leatherface in Memphis was something else. Lawler sold that poo poo like a demon.
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I thought The Machine was just the most generic member of the team Giant Machine and Hulk Machine were on.
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There was also that weird feud between Jerry Lawler and Tom Savini, where Tom was trying to get revenge on Lawler being indirectly responsible for the death of Andy Kaufman. So he used his Hollywood magic to summon every slasher film icon to go after Jerry.
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DynamiteKidd posted:I just realized that The Machine is the rarely-seen American counterpart to the storied tradition of ripping off movie characters for wrestling gimmicks (see Super Leather, Nightmare Freddy, Eddie Gilbert legit just wrestling as Michael Meyers, Jason the Terrible) It was always part of the territories back when everything was too carny to be given a C&D. Art Barr wrestled as Beetlejuice in the late 80's in Portland, coming out to the Banana Boat song, and basically did a barely changed version of it as "The Juicer" (which was probably also a rib about his lack of size). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knkkg29Ev9k
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Two Beans posted:There was also that weird feud between Jerry Lawler and Tom Savini, where Tom was trying to get revenge on Lawler being indirectly responsible for the death of Andy Kaufman. So he used his Hollywood magic to summon every slasher film icon to go after Jerry. That sounds amazing.
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Wait, is that where we got Ghostface Killer Beau James?
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ayn rand hand job posted:Kevin Nash was Oz. Oz wasn't a ripoff per se. He was an cross-promotional tactic. A bad one. And I mean Zeus was literally Zeus from the movie but yeah, basically the same principles are involved but there are no C&D's involved.
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Did Art Barr as Beetlejuice ever wrestle Doink? That seems like a match that should have happened in some parallel universe.
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Two Beans posted:There was also that weird feud between Jerry Lawler and Tom Savini, where Tom was trying to get revenge on Lawler being indirectly responsible for the death of Andy Kaufman. So he used his Hollywood magic to summon every slasher film icon to go after Jerry. This sounds like the greatest thing I've never seen.
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