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Having people required to do the entirety of a game's main story before even allowing them into expansion zones really is not ideal game design. Having them just kill the important bosses or even watch a bunch of cutscenes is enough.
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We are all serious gamers in here.
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Chyea posted:Having people required to do the entirety of a game's main story before even allowing them into expansion zones really is not ideal game design. Having them just kill the important bosses or even watch a bunch of cutscenes is enough. They already mentioned that the next expansion is going to have an abridge version of the story quests for people to catch up on. Give people enough of the story for them to understand whats happening and how it ties to the world so things aren't lost in follow up quests. Like having my alter ego tell a quest giver that I'm sick of his poo poo and I should have left Leviathan drown him and the rest of the city in 2.1
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Sep 6, 2015 01:58
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Chyea posted:Having people required to do the entirety of a game's main story before even allowing them into expansion zones really is not ideal game design. Having them just kill the important bosses or even watch a bunch of cutscenes is enough. Hmmm, not sure I agree missing the plot in FF would be like cutting out Mark Antony's funeral speech in Julius Caesar. You would lose all of Brutus' character arc and the audience would just feel let down and cheated. Plus it wouldn't allow developers to make poignant social commentary like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYPF_bOimzM
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Sep 6, 2015 02:02
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So many puns...
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Sep 6, 2015 02:08
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:nice deflection lmao please explain to me what i am ""deflecting"" you sad brained twerp
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Sep 6, 2015 05:33
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Cao Ni Ma posted:They already mentioned that the next expansion is going to have an abridge version of the story quests for people to catch up on. So if even the venerated developers of FFXIV:ARR have agreed that abridging the story quests is a good idea, why are people still defending the current situation
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Sep 6, 2015 07:05
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Because ffxiv goons are what they claim to hate.
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Sep 6, 2015 07:26
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Tarranon posted:lmao please explain to me what i am ""deflecting"" you sad brained twerp sorry, your posting just blends in with all of the ff defense brigade's posting so well I couldn't tell my b
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Sep 6, 2015 08:12
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also I feel like maybe you should consider not playing mmos if the result is you posting this angrily feel free to share your thoughts, this is a safe place
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Sep 6, 2015 08:21
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Chyea posted:Having people required to do the entirety of a game's main story before even allowing them into expansion zones really is not ideal game design. Having them just kill the important bosses or even watch a bunch of cutscenes is enough. Y'know, I got back into FF14 on a new character about a month before Heavensward came out, and I was initially really worried about this too. In practice, though, it took me about 10 hours to complete and was some of the best story and group content the game had up to that point. The "capped at 50" story/dungeon/trial experience is so good that it didn't even bother me that my numbers weren't going up (well, technically they do, but you get like one level's worth of experience through the whole thing). I think it's actually a better system than the usual "welp the expansion's out so new players should just ignore all of the old level 50 content" that every other MMO does. I do get why they'd abridge the story content in future expansions, because as the campaign length grows obviously it becomes more annoying for new players, but the current situation isn't an issue IMO. I feel like the only people I've ever seen get mad/annoyed by this are people who haven't actually tried playing through it and are just put off by the concept?
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Sep 6, 2015 09:08
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abraham linksys posted:Y'know, I got back into FF14 on a new character about a month before Heavensward came out, and I was initially really worried about this too. In practice, though, it took me about 10 hours to complete and was some of the best story and group content the game had up to that point. The "capped at 50" story/dungeon/trial experience is so good that it didn't even bother me that my numbers weren't going up (well, technically they do, but you get like one level's worth of experience through the whole thing). I think it's actually a better system than the usual "welp the expansion's out so new players should just ignore all of the old level 50 content" that every other MMO does. Or people who's main game was/is wow and are unable to stray from the "rush to end game so I can be bored" fun they so enjoy.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:also I feel like maybe you should consider not playing mmos if the result is you posting this angrily *pulls out notebook entitled : diaries of a fail retard, skims thru the pages, makes the Jeff goldblum oh uhm ahhh noise* Seems I've been owned
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Sep 6, 2015 09:57
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Why don't they understand how brilliant 10 hours of mandatory max level questing is. *sighs and places hand over his heart while looking at my sephiroth wallscroll*
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Sep 6, 2015 10:14
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Somehow managed to double post from phone Mmos are bad. Gw2 is probably the least bad because it is the least mmo
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Sep 6, 2015 10:14
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Tarranon posted:*pulls out notebook entitled : diaries of a fail retard, skims thru the pages, makes the Jeff goldblum oh uhm ahhh noise* just like life, you found a way to be owned
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Sep 6, 2015 10:17
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Double Monocle posted:Why don't they understand how brilliant 10 hours of mandatory max level questing is. It's not just solo questing; it also includes like 3-4 dungeons and 3-4 trials. And if you don't want to do any of those things, you should not even be playing FFXIV what the heck, it's not like everyone's in it for the killer endgame of a single raid and two dungeons and mediocre-at-best PvP
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Sep 6, 2015 10:22
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abraham linksys posted:It's not just solo questing; it also includes like 3-4 dungeons and 3-4 trials. And if you don't want to do any of those things, you should not even be playing FFXIV what the heck, it's not like everyone's in it for the killer endgame of a single raid and two dungeons and mediocre-at-best PvP If you don't like rubbing perfume on a chocobo's rear end I don't even give a gently caress about your opinion~
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Sep 6, 2015 10:23
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:just like life, you found a way to be owned haha nice I get the ref from one 90s kid to another maybe you're not such a fail brained sack of poo poo after all, since you know the good dinosaur movie 
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Sep 6, 2015 10:24
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Tarranon posted:haha nice I get the ref Super Mario Brothers?
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Sep 6, 2015 10:42
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Hy_C posted:FFXIV went 4 steps back from wow in terms of UI customization. Not letting you use addons to track buffs and debuffs easily is a pain in the rear end. Also you can apparently get banned or suspended if you call out someone who's getting carried if you use the information from a Parser. What the hell does that mean? Is it possible to physically carry characters around in FFXIV and for some reason people frown upon this? Libluini fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 6, 2015 11:02
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Libluini posted:What the hell does that mean? Is it possible to physically carry characters around in FFIXIV and for some reason people frown upon this? Because if you're not super elite with the flawless gear you have no loving business being on my team so get out shitter
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Sep 6, 2015 11:48
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Libluini posted:What the hell does that mean? Is it possible to physically carry characters around in FFIXIV and for some reason people frown upon this? getting carried basically means someone else carries your weight. 90% of the time its kids screaming you didnt play perfectly and scape goating you for all imagined failures. 10% of the time its the same kid wearing +healing gear on his rogue and hitting the CC monsters.
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Sep 6, 2015 14:37
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Flesh Forge posted:Because if you're not super elite with the flawless gear you have no loving business being on my team so get out shitter Look, if it takes 17 minutes to clear the stupid dungeon instead of 15, then what's the loving point? My favorite thing during the ARR launch window was the goons who either poopsocked to the level cap or were already there from 1.0 getting salty as gently caress when they'd join a dungeon group that had one, maybe two players that hadn't been at cap as long as they had been and thus didn't have gear that would let them speed through it yet. So the moment something didn't die quick enough, there'd be this smarmy-rear end comment and they'd practically look for excuses to ditch and to roll the dice on getting a group that could clear faster instead of just finishing the drat run.
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Libluini posted:What the hell does that mean? Is it possible to physically carry characters around in FFIXIV and for some reason people frown upon this? Square-Enix wants Final Fantasy XIV to be a casual friendly game that anyone can play. They are okay with players using data parsers to track their own performance in high end content, but they don't want that data being used to belittle or harass other players. The way they see it is that data parsers are hostile to their goals with the game, and after seeing how it works in World of Warcraft, I don't blame them for taking that stance. Posting data parsed information in chat in-game can get your account banned in FFXIV as a result. Plus posting parser data is spam, its incredibly annoying in WoW. I said come in! fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Sep 6, 2015 |
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Sep 6, 2015 17:12
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That's a great approach imo.
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Sep 6, 2015 17:44
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I have been running the goddamn goon guild for over two years now and I cannot bring myself to feel as strongly about FFXIV design decisions as some of the people in the Wildstar thread. Why are you not talking about Wildstar when the relaunch is in less than a month. Goddamnit
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Sep 6, 2015 19:15
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The Chairman posted:I have been running the goddamn goon guild for over two years now and I cannot bring myself to feel as strongly about FFXIV design decisions as some of the people in the Wildstar thread. Why are you not talking about Wildstar when the relaunch is in less than a month. Goddamnit Why is it whenever someone says something remotely negative about FFXIV they swarm? But anyway until F2P actually launches I don't see much to talk about.
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Sep 6, 2015 19:20
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Anoia posted:Why is it whenever someone says something remotely negative about FFXIV they swarm? People are quick to defend things they enjoy and have emotional investment in, regardless of if the opposing side has a valid point. I personally don't have issue with the story thing but I'll concede that people are free to feel otherwise.
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Sep 6, 2015 19:36
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Flesh Forge posted:Because if you're not super elite with the flawless gear you have no loving business being on my team so get out shitter nah it has more to do with not being able to hit dps checks on fights and having the group wipe multiple times because of it. If everyone pulled their own weight there would be no issue.
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Sep 6, 2015 19:40
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Anoia posted:Why is it whenever someone says something remotely negative about FFXIV they swarm? As someone who doesn't give a poo poo either way, I'd say both sides swarm just as equally? Wildstar is a wonderful trainwreck that keeps getting derailed by the same FFXIV topic. So many trains.
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Sep 6, 2015 19:49
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Mayor McCheese posted:As someone who doesn't give a poo poo either way, I'd say both sides swarm just as equally? I feel like the people who swarm to keep making fun of FFXIV do it, in some small part at least, just to keep pissing off the people that swarm to defend it. That could just be my motivation, though.
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Sep 6, 2015 19:53
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The forgemaster in kelvoreth was p. metal. Okay that was my wildstarpost hope you enjoyed!
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Sep 6, 2015 20:22
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I did, thank you!
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Sep 6, 2015 22:41
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I have never played wildstar
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:I feel like the people who swarm to keep making fun of FFXIV do it, in some small part at least, just to keep pissing off the people that swarm to defend it. That could just be my motivation, though. And then an equal number of the defenders do the same thing and you end up with two smug piles of brain-damaged human filth farting aggressively into the void, claiming victory. A charming metaphor for Wildstar when you think about it.
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Sep 6, 2015 23:21
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Martout posted:The forgemaster in kelvoreth was p. metal. i know that most people seem to disagree and i can see their point but i kinda liked some of the boss fights poo poo like that volcano boss is completely retarded and awflul but i liked the fights in the forge master dungeon, and in the dungeon with the baby dragon.
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They have a raid seriously named skullcano and I can't decide if that's the best thing ever or the worst.
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Comrayn posted:I have never played wildstar You and 90% of the thread.  I don't think there's even ten people posting in this thread that play it.e: So Wildstar has daily rewards now, which has already been mentioned. But they did a character wipe recently so that got started over. But for some reason they changed their mind and no longer reward you on the FIRST day you play. Oh no. That's Day Zero.  That seems kind of stupid to me. Who's idea was this, Cyster? John Dyne fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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