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Throbbing blob posted:The vendor Serotonin linked earlier was based in the UK, so customs shouldn't be an issue from there. Aah, that's very good to know. They even have the full warships line, nice.
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Nice! Looking good lilljonas. How is the Blitzkrieg campaign going in your club?
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Throbbing blob posted:Nice! Looking good lilljonas. How is the Blitzkrieg campaign going in your club? We're experts at bogging down the campaign prep-work by being too ambitious. This far we're still waiting on several buildings of Stalino: the train station is built, but not painted, the roughly dozen workers' apartments are halfways built but lacking roofs, and we also plan to build at least one storage/loading dock building for the railroad. The miniatures are mostly finished, the Soviet force recently got a ton of cavalry painted up, the Italians are close to having two full platoons painted and tons of tankettes, and we have a full company of German infantry. I'm afraid I won't finish my Gebirgsjäger platoon, though I might in case we really get bogged down with the terrain work. Other than that, we're still fiddling with the campaign rules as well as home-brew changes to CoC. We're not happy with how AT guns work (they're constantly being run over, coincidentially, like the gun at your museum, though without harming tanks before that), and several costs are a bit unbalanced, mainly some tanks being badly costed compared to other tanks, and MMGs being too expensive for what you get. But the most optimistic club members are still imagining a campaign start in two weeks, and we get back some missing manpower for the terrain labour camp now that summer vacation is over. It will be a glorious mess, and I look forward to it.  Bonus pic - I squeezed in a game after we got back from Copenhagen this Saturday, with my German's attacking a Soviet objective. Highlights inlcuded the reaction of the Cossacks when they spotted my new Pz 38(t) making it's debut on the battlefield:  It ended up pushing the entire infantry line back from the woods in the middle of the board. Then it shot and ran over the Soviet's only AT gun, sparking yet another heated debate over how worthless AT guns are compared to tanks as that pretty much ended the game. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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That's a great pic, and kudos for actually managing to find the time and energy for a game after listening to me talk for 90 minutes! It does indeed seem like AT guns need a tweak. At least you know the tactic of running guns over with tanks has basis in historical reality now, but I'm not sure how often that actually happened  Do you have any pics of the finished terrain? Sounds like you've got quite an impressive sweatshop going on over there.
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I just pulled the trigger on a box of Perry plastic Desert Rats, some extra slouch hats and a Vickers Mk IVb tank. 1940/41 Australians here I come.  Early War Best War
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Throbbing blob posted:That's a great pic, and kudos for actually managing to find the time and energy for a game after listening to me talk for 90 minutes! I don't have exact statistics, but I see photos of crushed guns and mentions of them in award orders fairly frequently. On the other hand, AT gun crew award orders are also full of sub-100-meter shots, so it could go either way.
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Well, I guess Wargames Illustrated is really keen on pushing their digital versions. The cover price of the print magazine is $8.50 USD. But a subscription for 12 months is $120 (and thus $10 an issue).
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Huh. I didn't even notice that. It's the same for all currencies except Sterling, which gets you a £4 discount. I guess your free box of FoW toys isn't free after all. Still not a bad deal if you actually want those things I guess, but TBH I'll stick to occasionally buying interesting issues.
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I think that's the route I'll be taking now. It's a shame, as I usually always enjoy SOMETHING from every issue, but an extra $1.50 adds up.
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Get it and sell the box to make the difference back?
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Well, there's an idea.
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I feel that the 18 more dollars a year over the buying 12 issues in a store is worth having it delivered for "free" and on time every month.
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Arquinsiel posted:Huh. I didn't even notice that. It's the same for all currencies except Sterling, which gets you a £4 discount. I guess your free box of FoW toys isn't free after all. Still not a bad deal if you actually want those things I guess, but TBH I'll stick to occasionally buying interesting issues. I'm glad I'm in the UK then - the (small) saving plus a load of "free" plastic tanks just as I'm about to do WWII skirmish gaming? Thanks!
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No Pun Intended posted:I feel that the 18 more dollars a year over the buying 12 issues in a store is worth having it delivered for "free" and on time every month. Well it's never on time for me. And it's not delivered free if I'm paying more than the cover. Besides which, with all the advertising, there's no reason for them to charge so much other than it's a niche magazine. $100 was fair. I'd even pay the actual cover price. $120 is bullshit.
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Grey Hunter posted:I'm glad I'm in the UK then - the (small) saving plus a load of "free" plastic tanks just as I'm about to do WWII skirmish gaming? Thanks! Free tanks?
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Their current offer is actually a free box from Mantic Games, but I preferred the "14 issues for the price of 12" deal (instead of 12 for the price of 14 they have now).
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Colonial Air Force posted:Their current offer is actually a free box from Mantic Games, but I preferred the "14 issues for the price of 12" deal (instead of 12 for the price of 14 they have now). Battlefront tanks, but as I'm doing 15mm Skirmish, I've got 5 PzMKIV's and a
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Throbbing blob posted:That's a great pic, and kudos for actually managing to find the time and energy for a game after listening to me talk for 90 minutes! I have some pics, but we really ought to take some pictures of them in a better way. It's mostly left-overs from an old Russian Civil War campaign, and a bit too rural to really represent a Ukrainian city. That's why we want to add brick buildings to the collection.  The only finished brick building this far is a water tower that I built, based on pictures of old Russian water towers. It worked as a test-bed for making bricks out of foamboard:  A lot of the pictures from Stalino shows one-storied brick buildings of various types, which would be a great addition to break up the grey wooden houses. Like these: (bonus Bersaglieri bikers) 
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I'm putting together a bersaglieri force right now, so cool.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Their current offer is actually a free box from Mantic Games, but I preferred the "14 issues for the price of 12" deal (instead of 12 for the price of 14 they have now). Grey Hunter posted:I'm glad I'm in the UK then - the (small) saving plus a load of "free" plastic tanks just as I'm about to do WWII skirmish gaming? Thanks!
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lilljonas posted:I have some pics, but we really ought to take some pictures of them in a better way. It's mostly left-overs from an old Russian Civil War campaign, and a bit too rural to really represent a Ukrainian city. That's why we want to add brick buildings to the collection. This is perfectly fine as the outskirts of a small Soviet town in the 1940s.
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Ensign Expendable posted:This is perfectly fine as the outskirts of a small Soviet town in the 1940s. True, but the idea is to have one of the industrial railyards as the centrepiece of the campaing. We like using each campaign as a poor excuse to build terrain we don't have, and paint up more miniatures and tanks (like the Bergsaglieri and Gebirgsjägers that actually took the city).
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This was probably asked before, but are there any CWGH skirmish scenarios? Most of the time, it seems to be large-scale stuff, but I'm usually more satisfied with smaller-level games. E: I suppose FoF could work.
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It does work. I've played some of the scenarios from the book and they're decent. Big for FoF games though. Problem is they're not really pickup games, so you'll spend a fuckton of time and effort making mans, tanks, and terrain for it.
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lilljonas posted:True, but the idea is to have one of the industrial railyards as the centrepiece of the campaing. We like using each campaign as a poor excuse to build terrain we don't have, and paint up more miniatures and tanks (like the Bergsaglieri and Gebirgsjägers that actually took the city). In that case your houses don't match up at all, you'd need 5-storey brick "Stalinki" worker dormitories, if you're going to have any residential buildings at all.
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Ensign Expendable posted:In that case your houses don't match up at all, you'd need 5-storey brick "Stalinki" worker dormitories, if you're going to have any residential buildings at all. Well, we're using airplane photos of the city from 1941, and there were large areas around the factories and industrial railyards that consists of blocks of smaller living houses for workers, connected by small backyard, which we're building currently as well. You can see the kind of area on this photo:  We think it will make for some interesting games, as the fences and small low buildings will break up line-of-sight. It would have been really cool to make some large, multi-story brick buildings, but I doubt we would be able to finish any for this campaign. But sure, it's a great centerpiece to build for a later campaign, once we have a bunch of houses already. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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lilljonas posted:True, but the idea is to have one of the industrial railyards as the centrepiece of the campaing. We like using each campaign as a poor excuse to build terrain we don't have, and paint up more miniatures and tanks (like the Bergsaglieri and Gebirgsjägers that actually took the city). Man I wish I was a part of your gaming group. I love that approach.
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Anyone know of a source for WW2 Belgians in 15mm? I'm trying to make a Chain of Command Belgian 1940 force, but I'm having trouble sourcing the D.B.T. launchers and SMG troops. List found here: http://toofatlardies.co.uk/blog/?p=1890
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Having located a copy of Fistful of TOWs, it seems fairly complex. It may be one of those things where in-play it's easier to digest, but the rulebook definitely felt dense. It does, however, model everyone from the last century, so I suspect it's a GURPS-like case of "complex, but when you're done you only need to memorise the one thing".
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True North has a line of 15mm Belgians, but True North figures are kind of wonky. Old Glory stocks them in the US.
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They aren't actually hugely different from the French forces of the day, so you could probably just get those and paint them right.
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That's actually a great suggestion. Check out Battlefront item FR742, it's a French platoon without their greatcoats. They'd be perfect.
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I don't know about other AT guns but the Zis-3 has been incredible for me- Medium AT and a light howitzer for 80 points is nuts. Screen it with some AT rifles or infantry with AT grenades to discourage tank assaulters. My last game it killed a heap of expensive German infantry and schwacked a STUG on a side-shot because it had rotated to try and deal with my aggressively flanking BA-10. Killed ~3x its points value. I think when I get up to 1,000 points I'm gonna take two platoons so I can bring two of them.
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Polikarpov posted:I don't know about other AT guns but the Zis-3 has been incredible for me- Medium AT and a light howitzer for 80 points is nuts. Screen it with some AT rifles or infantry with AT grenades to discourage tank assaulters. We play CoC, not BA. In our experience, AT guns in CoC simply give you less bang for the buck compared to tanks, for various reasons. If spending slightly more gets you a unit that has immensely better manouverability, versatility and arguably survivability, and that will win against AT guns 3 times out of 4 in a shootout (based on our games), there's just not enough reason to get the AT guns. And that's after we already decreased the cost by 1 point. On the other hand, satchel charges have a good record in our games of blowing up tanks, and it costs 1 point to give a squad a satchel charge. This means that by the normal rules, you're far better off buying a couple of satcel charges (or even better, a flamethrower) than you are in investing in AT guns if you want to stand a chance against armour. We're not really happy with that, but we are also not sure if there are better ways to solve it than just decreasing the cost even more. Today we wrote the first draft of our new CoC Mega-Campaign Rules, and they are looking fun. It's basically three normal CoC campaigns rolled into one simultaneous campaign, but with more rules for support options, extra mini-missions, transfers of troops etc. Still more work to be done before it's finished, though. lilljonas fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Sep 5, 2015 |
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Speaking of CWGH (and WI, for that matter), there's an article this month about this game: 3rd Generation Warfare It's written by the developer of the rules, so not exactly unbiased, but his goal was for quick rules that still have the feeling of combat from that era. Less charts, more playing.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Speaking of CWGH (and WI, for that matter), there's an article this month about this game: 3rd Generation Warfare I can't believe they're using 28mm in the pics, not 15mm. Given the scale of modern games I think 15 or 10mm is about as high as you can go unless you are having squad level skirmish.
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Well the rules were designed for 20mm, but he said they work well for skirmishes up through regimental and divisional warfare (which he recommends 6mm).
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Thundercloud posted:I can't believe they're using 28mm in the pics, not 15mm. I've felt 15mm FoW starts looking really cramped when soviets get put down, even. What level is 3GW, anyway? Company, batallion?
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spectralent posted:I've felt 15mm FoW starts looking really cramped when soviets get put down, even. What level is 3GW, anyway? Company, batallion? "3rd Generation Warfare covers combined arms warfare from the end of WWII up to present day, from small company sized battle groups to battalion and larger sized formations."
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