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farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Agronox posted:

What's the federal issue under which there'd be jurisdiction? I can only think of one thing but it'd be a stretch.

Due process?

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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

God, hopefully this teaches the nation a lesson about why electing people who hate the government to be the government is a bad idea.

It sucks that we had to burn down a state to do it, but on the bright side at least the state in question is Kansas.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

VitalSigns posted:

God, hopefully this teaches the nation a lesson about why electing people who hate the government to be the government is a bad idea.

It sucks that we had to burn down a state to do it, but on the bright side at least the state in question is Kansas.

I like how republicans worship things like rule of law and the founding fathers creating separation of powers.

However they get meltdowns when the separation of powers concept doesn't go their way.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

I can assure you that when people are discussing this event ten years from now the phrase "...and nothing was learned" will no doubt be the appropriate way to conclude the tale.

Baron Porkface
Jan 22, 2007


ShadowCatboy posted:

Good luck proving that in your defunded courthouses.

The court can issue an order demanding funding.

tsa
Feb 3, 2014
Countdown to a variation of "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!"

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
Does anyone know what this actually means? Are normal people going to not be able to go to state courthouses for things like marriage licenses?

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

I don't think anyone knows what it means because I don't believe one branch of government has ever outlawed another before. Kansas is attempting a radical experiment in poor governance so let's wait and see!

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

SquadronROE posted:

Does anyone know what this actually means? Are normal people going to not be able to go to state courthouses for things like marriage licenses?


Litany Unheard posted:

I don't think anyone knows what it means because I don't believe one branch of government has ever outlawed another before. Kansas is attempting a radical experiment in poor governance so let's wait and see!

Oh it's hardly the first time.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

SquadronROE posted:

Does anyone know what this actually means? Are normal people going to not be able to go to state courthouses for things like marriage licenses?

I'm sure they defund the judicial branch but also say all the employees have to work for free until all gets sorted out.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Agronox posted:

What's the federal issue under which there'd be jurisdiction? I can only think of one thing but it'd be a stretch.

Just about any state government disputes that can't be sorted out in state can be taken to federal district courts to settle the matter. And they'll often accept the case, especially for something high strange like this.

ShadowCatboy
Jan 22, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Aside from its fiscal woes, let's not forget that Kansas is also falling apart literally.

quote:

CALDWELL, KAN. - Another small earthquake has shaken south-central Kansas.

The Kansas Geological Survey says the latest quake struck Saturday night near the small Sumner County town of Caldwell. It had a preliminary magnitude of 2.5. At least one earthquake a day has rattled the area since Tuesday, with magnitudes ranging from 2.2 to 3.1.

More than 200 earthquakes have been recorded in Kansas since Jan. 1, 2013. Only five were detected in the previous 10 years. Many have been centered in Sumner and Harper Counties. The Kansas Geological Survey said last month that the increase in the two counties was linked to saltwater injection after oil and natural gas drilling.

Luckily, some government regulations likely helped to mitigate the earthquakes recently, leading to ones that are smaller and less frequent. Unfortunately, those regulations are set to expire very soon.

tsa
Feb 3, 2014
Honestly who gives a gently caress unless they are consistently above a 4, you'd barely even know it's happening even if you were on top of the thing at the ranges they are talking about. A car driving by with loud bass will shake you more than a 3.5.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

tsa posted:

Honestly who gives a gently caress unless they are consistently above a 4, you'd barely even know it's happening even if you were on top of the thing at the ranges they are talking about. A car driving by with loud bass will shake you more than a 3.5.

So who gives a gently caress if ONE iceberg melts?

It's pretty telling that this poo poo is happening a bunch when it barely happened before. May not be some big rear end earthquake, but I wouldn't be surprised if in the next decade sinkholes became a Kansas thing.

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


:vapes:
Grimey Drawer
burn. burn, kansas, for my enjoyment

:a2m:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

i hope it ends up as a huge flaming sinkhole

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

etalian posted:

i hope it ends up as a huge flaming sinkhole

We'll name it Brownback's gaping hole in memorial to unmitigated stupidity. :911:

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
I really doubt buildings in Kansas are designed to withstand any sort of earthquake at all so having any at all up from zero is not a great sign.

Berk Berkly
Apr 9, 2009

by zen death robot
Don't think for a nano-second that the far right, conservatives, etc, won't ever, EVER, stop blaming the left and/or their particular boogie-men(socialists, vampire leech welfare-queen immigrants/minorities/poor, etc). In fact, the worse things get the more delusional the former become or or the more to blame upon the latter.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

enraged_camel posted:

At this point I want Kansas to sink as low as possible so that it becomes impossible to ignore as a massive failure of Republican fiscal policies.

It's pretty hilarious to read opinions in pro-business media outlets about how everything is going great, though.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rexsinquefield/2015/05/04/kansas-economic-growth-is-on-the-rebound-look-at-the-real-numbers/

http://www.wsj.com/articles/seeded-with-tax-cuts-kansas-harvests-the-benefits-1431729743

Well on the plus side, at least they pivoted to job growth and aren't bothering defending that whole tax cuts = more revenue thing.

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Tiler Kiwi posted:

I really doubt buildings in Kansas are designed to withstand any sort of earthquake at all so having any at all up from zero is not a great sign.
Buildings in Kansas tend to be short, with some interior sections reinforced for tornado survivability. They're not going to collapse from barely noticeable earthquakes.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

etalian posted:

I like how republicans worship things like rule of law and the founding fathers creating separation of powers.

However they get meltdowns when the separation of powers concept doesn't go their way.

That's because these were :siren: Liberal Activist Judges :siren: who dishonored the intent of the founders by failing to vote in lockstep with modern American conservative ideology.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Boywhiz88 posted:

So who gives a gently caress if ONE iceberg melts?

It's pretty telling that this poo poo is happening a bunch when it barely happened before. May not be some big rear end earthquake, but I wouldn't be surprised if in the next decade sinkholes became a Kansas thing.

Doesn't the New Madrid fault run through Kansas, or is that on the other side of Missouri?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Gyges posted:

Doesn't the New Madrid fault run through Kansas, or is that on the other side of Missouri?

There's a different major fault in Kansas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humboldt_Fault

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

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tsa posted:

Honestly who gives a gently caress unless they are consistently above a 4, you'd barely even know it's happening even if you were on top of the thing at the ranges they are talking about. A car driving by with loud bass will shake you more than a 3.5.

oklahoma started having a ton of these miniquakes too. unfortunately, it doesn't just stop with the miniquakes. in the last 4 years we've had 3 4.8s, a 5.6, and a multitude of 4.0+ quakes (at least 50 if the sampling I see here is right. http://earthquaketrack.com/p/united-states/oklahoma/biggest). we've never really had quakes much at all until recently. I felt my first earthquake of ever 4 years ago. the fracking stuff is not a good idea and the quakes don't just stop at 3 (though we're getting thousands of those per year it looks like, at least 28 a week).

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

etalian posted:

I'm sure they defund the judicial branch but also say all the employees have to work for free until all gets sorted out.

Hey, it worked in the Gaza Strip!

via
Dec 14, 2013
It would probably be best if things got even worse in Kansas. I mean pre-apocolyptic, mass-migration way of worse. And then maybe some of the larger centrist states might learn what can happen when you elect too many Republicans to the statehouse. Like how else are these loving idiots going to learn to stop voting in GOP supermajorities. A state needs to burn.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
Nobody will learn anything from this they didn't already believe was true.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Eh as long as the Republicans are good old Texas style corrupt business-friendly types it's not a catastrophe, just run-of-the-mill awful. Businesses at least have an interest in not burning down the state because they need a functioning economy to exist in order to keep plundering it.

Just, what the gently caress is happening to the Republican party. Even in Texas the new Lieutenant Governor is a Tea Party true believer, and even the governor is pandering to the insane right-wing militia types.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

VitalSigns posted:

Eh as long as the Republicans are good old Texas style corrupt business-friendly types it's not a catastrophe, just run-of-the-mill awful. Businesses at least have an interest in not burning down the state because they need a functioning economy to exist in order to keep plundering it.

Just, what the gently caress is happening to the Republican party. Even in Texas the new Lieutenant Governor is a Tea Party true believer, and even the governor is pandering to the insane right-wing militia types.

One can only hope its the desperate reactions of a failing party.

Anubis
Oct 9, 2003

It's hard to keep sand out of ears this big.
Fun Shoe

via posted:

It would probably be best if things got even worse in Kansas. I mean pre-apocolyptic, mass-migration way of worse. And then maybe some of the larger centrist states might learn what can happen when you elect too many Republicans to the statehouse. Like how else are these loving idiots going to learn to stop voting in GOP supermajorities. A state needs to burn.

I live here and I regularly talk to people about politics. Believe me when I say that no one is learning poo poo from this, and that's not just because they defunded all the public education. People are willfully ignorant of the crap that is going on and if you try to bring up state politics with anyone already invested in the Kansas Republican brand you'll end up getting blame thrown at national politicians with comments like, "It would have been worse if a democrat was elected."

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

via posted:

It would probably be best if things got even worse in Kansas. I mean pre-apocolyptic, mass-migration way of worse.

No mass-migrations for Kansas; they dug themselves that hole, no need to drag the rest of the states into that blunder.

The Kansas people can't be trusted to vote anymore.

stump collector
May 28, 2007

Anubis posted:

People are willfully ignorant of the crap that is going on and if you try to bring up state politics with anyone already invested in the Kansas Republican brand you'll end up getting blame thrown at national politicians with comments like, "It would have been worse if a democrat was elected."
Want to echo this statement as a kansan. Many of the people i work with also believe global warming is a conspiracy because it snowed a lot somewhere last year.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

exethan posted:

Want to echo this statement as a kansan. Many of the people i work with also believe global warming is a conspiracy because it snowed a lot somewhere last year.

We all know that global warming is actually a secret Jayhawk plot to open the docks in the port city of Topeka, on the shores of the restored Western Interior Seaway.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Gyges posted:

We all know that global warming is actually a secret Jayhawk plot to open the docks in the port city of Topeka, on the shores of the restored Western Interior Seaway.

Please tell me you came up with this and didn't have it spewed at you as an actual viewpoint by a living breathing human.

Hitlers Gay Secret posted:

No mass-migrations for Kansas; they dug themselves that hole, no need to drag the rest of the states into that blunder.

The Kansas people can't be trusted to vote anymore.

Harsh dude. Mind you, maybe we should try to disenfranchise white people for a change and see what happens.

Deutschendorf
Apr 14, 2007

Anubis posted:

I live here and I regularly talk to people about politics. Believe me when I say that no one is learning poo poo from this, and that's not just because they defunded all the public education. People are willfully ignorant of the crap that is going on and if you try to bring up state politics with anyone already invested in the Kansas Republican brand you'll end up getting blame thrown at national politicians with comments like, "It would have been worse if a democrat was elected."

This. I live in Wichita and 99% of people here still support Brownback and believe his "experiment" is working.

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Klaus88 posted:

Harsh dude. Mind you, maybe we should try to disenfranchise white people for a change and see what happens.

Nothing new. Skin color is no proof against stupidity, and the oppressed don't make good oppressors either.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Klaus88 posted:

Please tell me you came up with this and didn't have it spewed at you as an actual viewpoint by a living breathing human.

Whoever came up with it is cribbing from Superman (1978)

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008


Deutschendorf posted:

This. I live in Wichita and 99% of people here still support Brownback and believe his "experiment" is working.
I run into this problem all the time. It's so frustrating.

Maybe it's my problem, I just don't know how to relate to people who think that the stuff happening in Kansas is good despite it being objectively bad.

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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Trent posted:

Whoever came up with it is cribbing from Superman (1978)

There are no missiles involved in sweet Great Plains surf shops. Luthor was just going to take a little off the side of California.

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