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Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Beatrice is going right in my deck in a year when it comes out and BA is worthless

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Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!

Hjalmar posted:

I'd never heard of that card before! I'm not sure how viable that play would be, but it would be peak anime.

If it works you can bring back Formula Synchron and a Synchro monster to support your current Synchro monster to make Quasar.

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

All Dante cards are banned. Get good.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Cabinet posted:

I prefer a physical card game to netdecking tbh. The game is a very personal thing for me and I rather go against someone face to face. (It also allows me to not gently caress up by misclicking)

yeah this is the boat im in. i tried mtgo to get back into that game when innistrad came out, and it just wasn't fun anymore. i got back into that game during born of the gods at a local card shop and have been hooked again full time

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

minoru suzuki posted:

yeah this is the boat im in. i tried mtgo to get back into that game when innistrad came out, and it just wasn't fun anymore. i got back into that game during born of the gods at a local card shop and have been hooked again full time

My issues is I moved away from my group of Yugi buddies. It was fun playing against them because they all had a different play style and we all played to improve. Both our actual card skills and our poker faces and set up for the physical game.

A lot can be given away through how you set cards and people don't realise this! The amount of times someone with a five card hand draws and instantly sets a card. Says so much about what you actually have in your hand.

That's what I love about the game, the actual gameplay, but also the personality to the players.

Now I only play sometimes with my roommate or dabble in netdecking. The locals here was meh for actual conversation and socialising. Maybe i'll try again.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_7wxNU2Pc

For the love of all that is good and holy can we PLEASE get a ban on Blaze Fenix? They JUST announced Beatrice and she's already part of a Fenix OTK.

Slur
Mar 6, 2013

It's the Final Countdown.

Dexie posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_7wxNU2Pc

For the love of all that is good and holy can we PLEASE get a ban on Blaze Fenix? They JUST announced Beatrice and she's already part of a Fenix OTK.

It's obvious Beatrice is the problem then.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



I know you're joking but for the benefit of everyone else...

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Blaze_Fenix,_the_Burning_Bombardment_Bird

This thing is one of the most degenerate cards in the game. It's used in an insane number of OTKs and FTKs.

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

Beatrice doesn't even have "Burning Abyss" in it's name so it will nuke all your BA cards (except for libic and tour guide stuff).

Slur
Mar 6, 2013

It's the Final Countdown.

Dexie posted:

I know you're joking but for the benefit of everyone else...

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Blaze_Fenix,_the_Burning_Bombardment_Bird

This thing is one of the most degenerate cards in the game. It's used in an insane number of OTKs and FTKs.

Funny thing is, I'm not joking.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Dexie posted:

I know you're joking but for the benefit of everyone else...

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Blaze_Fenix,_the_Burning_Bombardment_Bird

This thing is one of the most degenerate cards in the game. It's used in an insane number of OTKs and FTKs.

That card has been around for a while (I have many copies on my trade binder in fact) and so far I haven't see it being played on my locals or I know of it having topped any event. So unless that changes soon, I doubt is gonna be hit.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
It's a gimmicky setup that has the same practicality as Magical Explosion FTK and Exodia FTK. It can happen, but the opponent needs to draw the right cards and even with an engine that lets them burn through a ton of their deck, it won't matter when they don't draw the card they need to continue and instead have a field of nothing that'll get blown up by any current day meta deck.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Yeah Tainted Wisdom uses preset hands. To easily show off the preffered method of OTK in that deck.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



It's still a lovely thing to end up facing against, just like every other FTK in the game.

Captain Baal
Oct 23, 2010

I Failed At Anime 2022
Oh it absolutely is

Skeleton Mom
Aug 11, 2008

Is the banlist strictly influenced by what happens in top-level play, or do they care about decks that are just plain unfun to play against? Exodia, Magical Explosion and Blaze Fenix feel more like tossing a coin than actually playing the game.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Hjalmar posted:

Is the banlist strictly influenced by what happens in top-level play, or do they care about decks that are just plain unfun to play against? Exodia, Magical Explosion and Blaze Fenix feel more like tossing a coin than actually playing the game.

The former, although if a card proves itself to be way too problematic for the game it can led to an emergency ban. I believe only three cards have been hit with it: Cyber-stein, Dimension Fusion and the original version of Temple of Kings

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Hjalmar posted:

Is the banlist strictly influenced by what happens in top-level play, or do they care about decks that are just plain unfun to play against? Exodia, Magical Explosion and Blaze Fenix feel more like tossing a coin than actually playing the game.

Only top level play, which means things like Chicken Race and Exodia and Blaze Fenix will never get touched. :argh:

Skeleton Mom
Aug 11, 2008

I wouldn't be sure about Chicken Race/Game.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Way back when, Gorz the Emissary of Darkness was actually Limited before it was even released.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Hjalmar posted:

I wouldn't be sure about Chicken Race/Game.

I don't know how it's doing in TCG (I wish TCG decklists weren't so hard to find), but it's not doing anything in OCG. It fell off the map hard over there.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Its what I expect from a format that gave us Clownblade aka more R4 drudgery.

Instead of playing about with the best card in the drat game.

Slur
Mar 6, 2013

It's the Final Countdown.
My favourite rank 4 deck will always be Heraldic Beasts, especially the rank-up variant.

Slur fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Sep 8, 2015

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

Hahaha gently caress I put my Dante's on ebay and I got $202.50 for them, which is substantiality more than I paid for my entire BA deck. Can't wait to buy them again post reprint :cool:

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Performages are exactly what I want in a deck and I've been waiting years for this so it's going to suck when they get neutered by the banlist. :sigh:

I just hope that BOSH gives us the rest of their anime support so I can enjoy them at full power before the hit comes.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
Fun deck:
Aquaactress Tetra x3
Aquaactress Guppy x1
Aquaactress Arowana x3
Aquarium Stage x3
Aquarium Set x3
Aquarium Lighting x3
Wetlands x2
Swap Frog x3
Dupe Frog x2
Ronintoadnin x1
Aqua Story - Urashima x2
One for One x1

And then fill out with Staples and some Aqua support. Maybe toss in a tuner (Dewdark or Water Spirit?) to get Trish or other WATER Synchros. I use a few of the Rank 2 staples, and Slacker Magician. I use Storming Mirror Force/Air Force to deal with cards like Ragnazero and other lockdown cards.

Slur
Mar 6, 2013

It's the Final Countdown.

Dexie posted:

Performages are exactly what I want in a deck and I've been waiting years for this so it's going to suck when they get neutered by the banlist. :sigh:

I just hope that BOSH gives us the rest of their anime support so I can enjoy them at full power before the hit comes.

Aren't you the one who's been complaining about rank 4 this entire thread? Or was that someone else?

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

That's everyone.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Slur posted:

Aren't you the one who's been complaining about rank 4 this entire thread? Or was that someone else?

That was someone else. Most of my favorite decks are rank 4 enablers.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Rank 4 are fine if you'd remove Castel, Shark and maybe Infinity-enabler, create archetype specific variants if you want just don't have them be generic. I remember back in Dragon Ruler meta when Maestroke Djinn was still a relevant card. :smith:

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I'm violently anti-XYZ, but that's just because I miss level lockdown.

poorlywrittennovel
Oct 9, 2012

Senerio posted:

Fun deck:
Aquaactress Tetra x3
Aquaactress Guppy x1
Aquaactress Arowana x3
Aquarium Stage x3
Aquarium Set x3
Aquarium Lighting x3
Wetlands x2
Swap Frog x3
Dupe Frog x2
Ronintoadnin x1
Aqua Story - Urashima x2
One for One x1

And then fill out with Staples and some Aqua support. Maybe toss in a tuner (Dewdark or Water Spirit?) to get Trish or other WATER Synchros. I use a few of the Rank 2 staples, and Slacker Magician. I use Storming Mirror Force/Air Force to deal with cards like Ragnazero and other lockdown cards.

I made this deck, it's rude as poo poo. Although I also stuck in lockdown in my s/t slots because you kind of need a way to deal with the opponent's stuff if they get something huge out.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!

poorlywrittennovel posted:

I made this deck, it's rude as poo poo. Although I also stuck in lockdown in my s/t slots because you kind of need a way to deal with the opponent's stuff if they get something huge out.

I mean, usually 6600-7600 Atk deals with most huge things.

poorlywrittennovel
Oct 9, 2012

Senerio posted:

I mean, usually 6600-7600 Atk deals with most huge things.

My playgroup is weird and I got completely blanked by a Five Headed Dragon. But yeah, you have a point.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
Honestly most of the rest of the cards I use are there to prevent my opponent from doing anything. I also use cards like Parallel Twister, which I can use to special summon one of the AAs I dumped to the graveyard and also pop one of his cards.

Lisandra_brave
May 26, 2013

You really think someone would do that?
Just go on the internet and tell lies?

Xoidanor posted:

Rank 4 are fine if you'd remove Castel, Shark and maybe Infinity-enabler, create archetype specific variants if you want just don't have them be generic. I remember back in Dragon Ruler meta when Maestroke Djinn was still a relevant card. :smith:

SHArk is fine, it makes it a good move to leave poo poo in defense. Castel is a problem because it doesn't matter how the card is left, it'll get spun anyway.
Infinity and now Rafflesia coupled with an incredible R4 engine has given rise to a hideous monstrosity of a deck.
And it's a loving anime deck. Anime decks shouldn't be that good.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Lisandra_brave posted:

And it's a loving anime deck. Anime decks shouldn't be that good.

Can I ask why you feel this way?

Lisandra_brave
May 26, 2013

You really think someone would do that?
Just go on the internet and tell lies?

Dexie posted:

Can I ask why you feel this way?

Tradition. I'm actually a fan of the anime, but it's disgusting how good EMEm is.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Lisandra_brave posted:

Tradition. I'm actually a fan of the anime, but it's disgusting how good EMEm is.

I still say Performages are only as good as they are because of the OCG's exclusive rank 4s, and I still think they won't have anywhere near the same success in the TCG. Without Utopia the Lightning/Rafflesia/Cyber Dragon Infinity/Lavalval Chain/Shock Master, they're limited to more defensive plays and can't set up an aggressive turn 1 field like they can in the OCG.

I'm sure we'll see some Performage decks doing okay in the TCG, but they won't be nearly as dominant as they are in Japan.

EDIT: For the record, TCG has bigger problems to deal with anyway.

Vandar fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Sep 9, 2015

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Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

What date was that YCS?

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