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# ? May 22, 2024 17:56 |
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frankenfreak posted:For everyone else who looks at that t-shirt and wonders what it says about conservatism: Yes, rebellion IS bad.
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# ? Sep 7, 2015 23:44 |
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Let's make Labor Day about the guys who usually come out and shoot the workers when they strike.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 01:15 |
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There's time to ready memes about all the service workers who don't get the day off for Veterans' Day. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 01:29 |
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Today I learned that every. single. one. of my coworkers thought Labor Day was about soldiers #bluelivesmatter
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 01:43 |
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Rand alPaul posted:
Post images of the guys they'd be shooting instead!
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 01:44 |
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Rand alPaul posted:
treasured8elief fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Sep 8, 2015 |
# ? Sep 8, 2015 01:49 |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here's_to_You_%28song%29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0xUl_VRCmM Relevant again thanks to videogames.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 02:01 |
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Rand alPaul posted:
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 02:38 |
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Rand alPaul posted:
That image is about as dumb as your statement. Seriously, when was the last time the US military ever shot striking workers in this country? Ludlow Massacre, involving state national guardsmen, from over 100 years ago?
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 02:50 |
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mlmp08 posted:That image is about as dumb as your statement. Seriously, when was the last time the US military ever shot striking workers in this country? Ludlow Massacre, involving state national guardsmen, from over 100 years ago? Reagan told 13,000 air traffic controllers to go gently caress themselves some 34 years and 1 month ago. It took almost a decade for the occupation to recover in the United states.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 03:30 |
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Mystic_Shadow posted:Reagan told 13,000 air traffic controllers to go gently caress themselves some 34 years and 1 month ago. It took almost a decade for the occupation to recover in the United states. I know, but that has nothing to do with what I brought up, and lol, how would you think that's news to me when I linked an image of that strike?
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 03:38 |
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mlmp08 posted:I know, but that has nothing to do with what I brought up, and lol, how would you think that's news to me when I linked an image of that strike? I was just expanding on the image you posted, I never intended to debate your point.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 03:44 |
mlmp08 posted:I know, but that has nothing to do with what I brought up, and lol, how would you think that's news to me when I linked an image of that strike? Is that a T34/85 at the top of the row of tanks
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 04:29 |
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 04:49 |
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mlmp08 posted:That image is about as dumb as your statement. Seriously, when was the last time the US military ever shot striking workers in this country? Ludlow Massacre, involving state national guardsmen, from over 100 years ago? "The Bonus Army was the popular name of an assemblage of some 43,000 marchers—17,000 World War I veterans, their families, and affiliated groups—who gathered in Washington, D.C., in the spring and summer of 1932 to demand cash-payment redemption of their service certificates. Its organizers called it the Bonus Expeditionary Force to echo the name of World War I's American Expeditionary Forces, while the media called it the Bonus March. It was led by Walter W. Waters, a former army sergeant. [...] On July 28, U.S. Attorney General William D. Mitchell ordered the veterans removed from all government property. Washington police met with resistance, shots were fired and two veterans were wounded and later died. President Herbert Hoover then ordered the army to clear the veterans' campsite. Army Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur commanded the infantry and cavalry supported by six tanks. The Bonus Army marchers with their wives and children were driven out, and their shelters and belongings burned." They're wearing gas masks because the US Army gassed its own WW1 veterans. "The Battle of Blair Mountain was the largest labor uprising in United States history and the largest organized armed uprising since the American Civil War.[1] For five days in late August and early September 1921, in Logan County, West Virginia, some 10,000 armed coal miners confronted 3,000 lawmen and strikebreakers, called the Logan Defenders,[2] who were backed by coal mine operators during an attempt by the miners to unionize the southwestern West Virginia coalfields. The battle ended after approximately one million rounds were fired,[3] and the United States Army intervened by presidential order." Lassitude fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Sep 8, 2015 |
# ? Sep 8, 2015 05:31 |
Lassitude posted:
Again, things that happened nearly a century ago.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 05:48 |
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When I see this, it makes me immediately think this is astroturfed. Obviously the parties were different coalitions immediately after WW2, and if I remember right a couple unions (besides police/firefighters) did support Republicans--especially ones like George Romney. But this is so ridiculous when looked at with a modern eye that I can't even process it. Was Republican support among some unions genuine, or were they just captured or lulled into a false sense of security? I mean, 1956, that's contemporary with the John Birch Society, when they still held not-insignificant power within the Republican party, no? A different type of astroturf operation, 44 years into the future:
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 06:03 |
dinoputz posted:When I see this, it makes me immediately think this is astroturfed. Obviously the parties were different coalitions immediately after WW2, and if I remember right a couple unions (besides police/firefighters) did support Republicans--especially ones like George Romney. But this is so ridiculous when looked at with a modern eye that I can't even process it. Was Republican support among some unions genuine, or were they just captured or lulled into a false sense of security? I mean, 1956, that's contemporary with the John Birch Society, when they still held not-insignificant power within the Republican party, no? 1956 seems to be near the zenith of private sector union membership, and I'm guessing the Southern Strategy was the beginning of a general rightward shift as well? Plus, yeah, cynicism:
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 06:22 |
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Armyman25 posted:Again, things that happened nearly a century ago. Your math isn't very good.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 06:39 |
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Sair posted:Your math isn't very good. Yeah, but that's still too long ago to say that the military are "the guys who usually come out and shoot the workers when they strike". Although, apart from the labor wars and the Bonus Army, when was the last time a strike was shut down violently at all, by private citizens or the military? I'm guessing it's still going to be pre-Eisenhower. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwbzxemJZIc
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 08:00 |
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Slavvy posted:Is that a T34/85 at the top of the row of tanks Yes. Other notables: A French Panhard AML-90 in the lower right, a armored car with a 90mm cannon. A Tunguska anti-air system in the upper left. What looks like a Pantsir-S1 (Tunguska turret on a flatbed trailer basically) next to the Panhard. A SA-11 (Buk) launcher in the upper right.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 08:05 |
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To be fair the US Military hasn't been shooting people striking or protesting for a while, mostly because they're busy committing war crimes abroad and covering them up.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 08:16 |
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Kent State anti-war protests, 1970. National guard killed 4 and wounded 9. The US military hasn't been killing strikers/union organizers lately because the workers won that battle. It's no longer fashionable to murder your own people in order to maintain the bottom line of private interests. But it wasn't "some national guard guy" doing it was more my point, however long ago. They were organized military actions sanctioned by the President at the time and commanded by guys like Douglas MacArthur and George S. Patton Jr. in the case of the soldiers who broke up the Bonus Army. Lassitude fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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darthbob88 posted:Yeah, but that's still too long ago to say that the military are "the guys who usually come out and shoot the workers when they strike". Although, apart from the labor wars and the Bonus Army, when was the last time a strike was shut down violently at all, by private citizens or the military? I'm guessing it's still going to be pre-Eisenhower. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gGqA8JAPnI
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 08:53 |
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And that the US diverts a large part of its former 'working class' into the military now, and has convinced them that the notion of shared sacrifice is now a socialist evil. Which is why the rich enjoy tax cuts when the poor and misguided patriots of the middle are doing the majority of the dying, or begging for basic services when they return. "People are basically cunts" - Voltaire.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 09:42 |
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C.M. Kruger posted:Yes. Not sure I understand the purpose, is it a targeting range (bombing with duds or sthing?) or simply "learn what these things look like from above"?
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 10:02 |
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Lassitude posted:
So in which of those incidents was the army shooting strikers? Cursory research shows that after shots were fired by either police or strike-breakers in the instances cited above, the army was sent in to help stop the shooting. Also it's pretty loaded to refer to using tear gas as gassing someone while referencing WW1 vets. No denying that MacArthur was a real prick during the Bonus Army demonstrations though. So I guess 83 years ago, the army was used to not shoot strikers is a pretty good way of arguing that the army are the guys shooting strikers in the United States.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 10:20 |
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double nine posted:Not sure I understand the purpose, is it a targeting range (bombing with duds or sthing?) or simply "learn what these things look like from above"? The "petting zoo" is a sort of a museum crossed with a research and training center, basically a place for the military to study foreign (Warsaw Pact mainly) equipment to find it's strengths and flaws. Apparently nowadays civilians can get tours of the unclassified sections. Inside they have a MiG-23 (captured from Iraq) and a MiG-29 (Purchased from Moldova in 1997 to keep Iran from buying them), along with various examples of infantry weapons and so on.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 10:49 |
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dinoputz posted:A different type of astroturf operation, 44 years into the future: A decade and a half later it's still shocking to me to think about how the Republicans staged a riot to forcibly shut down the counting of votes. Everybody in this picture should've got life in solitary.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 13:10 |
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My awesome girlfriend made Bernie a card!
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 14:31 |
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Ugggggggh love the look of the MiG-29.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 14:37 |
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 18:23 |
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Right, because the migrants in question will be sent to death camps if found.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 18:48 |
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I'm just glad to witness a period of time when the lines are drawn so clear, yet so many people just can't help but place themselves squarely on the wrong side of history
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 19:00 |
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 19:05 |
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He flubbed a line one time six years ago and the right still makes lame jokes about it.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 19:12 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:He flubbed a line one time six years ago and the right still makes lame jokes about it. I thought it was pertinent if we were going to make fun of Palin for saying we speak American (We certainly don't speak the kings English ). But I'm kidding. Obama is the best. It was wrong of me to point out any dumb things he's said.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 19:18 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:He flubbed a line one time six years ago and the right still makes lame jokes about it. Jokes? If only.
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# ? Sep 8, 2015 21:34 |