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22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I just use my phone. Call me paranoid, but I don't want to explain what I'm doing on a site with a forum called "The Crackhead Clubhouse." God forbid they look in FYAD and get goatsed.

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Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


22 Eargesplitten posted:

God forbid they look in FYAD and get goatsed.

And on that day, 22 Eargesplitten learned his boss was into crack, anal stretching, and obscure comedy-option rifle cartridges.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

wolrah posted:

A lot of blacklists still make the mistake of filtering https://www.blahblahblah.com rather than *.blahblahblah.com

Or whoever runs your filter is a goon and wants to be able to say "see, I blocked that evil internet comedy site" but still get their forum fix.
I worked at a place that blocked i and fi for some reason, but left forums and www alone. I ignored it, until one day I had to explain why I had so many hits on the content filter.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

dissss posted:

Pretty sure Firefox actually started blocking that before Chrome - we had a bunch of issues with internal stuff a few months back
:ssh: You blurred the location but you left the server address in the error message.


I'm surprised SA and Imgur are unblocked at my work because they block pretty much everything else except for news and partners' sites. More annoyingly, sourceforge and github are blocked which means if I need to grab a tool hosted on those sites I have to use a clean laptop on the unfiltered visitor's wifi and transfer the files on a USB stick.

Several other people bring a laptop and connect it to the visitor's wifi as well. As long as they're not bothering me about it or trying to hook them up to the corporate network (They can't anyway, thanks 802.1X) I don't give a poo poo. If they spend all their day browsing porn instead of working that's their manager's problem, not mine.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Basically nothing gets blocked here. Yay!


On the other hand, this loving UI.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Collateral Damage posted:

:ssh: You blurred the location but you left the server address in the error message.

Ha fail - had to look twice to see that even after you pointed it out.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003
Monday fun!

A coworker logged onto one of the servers that handle the smart locks for almost all doors and other lockable stuff in the municipality. The smart-lock vendor has time-limited VPN-access to that server for maintenance work but installed TeamViewer because obviously IT security is something you should try to get around. Apart from being an unlicensed version of TeamViewer (Personal use only..) it was logged in as a named tech from the company, and was displaying 40 other municipalities and educational institutions as online.
After scratching his head for a few seconds my coworker thought "are they really this stupid?" and double-clicked on one of the largest municipalities in the country, and got control of their server, logged in as admin, with a stored TeamViewer password.

He gathered ample evidence, logged off TeamViewer, uninstalled it, blocked all access to any account the vendor may have had access to, and is currently preparing a briefing for the City Manager, the head of the Technical department (who is responsible for locks), and the Legal department. We're also typing up a brief to send to the 40 other customers we saw on that list to warn them of the security breach.

I guess we're looking for a new vendor now. :eng99:

Edit: Just to calm people down if you're local: Servers like this are on their own "technical net" and not anywhere near any information of sensitive or personal nature (like SSNs, medical records, inspection records, and such)

Crowley fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Sep 7, 2015

UCS Hellmaker
Mar 29, 2008
Toilet Rascal
Holy poo poo talk about a very bad hole. Any evidence its been accessed outside of the predefined times then? And please please tell us how it turns out. That sounds like something that will destroy that company has it goes through legal channels. Not just from the loss of customers as that gets found out but from lawsuits from violating security and their contract.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Crowley posted:

Monday fun!

A coworker logged onto one of the servers that handle the smart locks for almost all doors and other lockable stuff in the municipality. The smart-lock vendor has time-limited VPN-access to that server for maintenance work but installed TeamViewer because obviously IT security is something you should try to get around. Apart from being an unlicensed version of TeamViewer (Personal use only..) it was logged in as a named tech from the company, and was displaying 40 other municipalities and educational institutions as online.
After scratching his head for a few seconds my coworker thought "are they really this stupid?" and double-clicked on one of the largest municipalities in the country, and got control of their server, logged in as admin, with a stored TeamViewer password.

He gathered ample evidence, logged off TeamViewer, uninstalled it, blocked all access to any account the vendor may have had access to, and is currently preparing a briefing for the City Manager, the head of the Technical department (who is responsible for locks), and the Legal department. We're also typing up a brief to send to the 40 other customers we saw on that list to warn them of the security breach.

I guess we're looking for a new vendor now. :eng99:

Edit: Just to calm people down if you're local: Servers like this are on their own "technical net" and not anywhere near any information of sensitive or personal nature (like SSNs, medical records, inspection records, and such)
The buildings those locks control, on the other hand...

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

Swink posted:

I'm petition to get stack overflow excepted. How will you write code if you can't browse stack overflow?

I'm not technically a programmer.. Okay, not a programmer at all, so I doubt they'll make an exception for me. I think there's another group I might try to get put into that has less restrictions on the filter.

Not really making me angry: Blah I have to work on labor day. Sadness.

e: There's gotta be a goon somewhere. All of SA is whitelisted somehow. I know it wasn't like that a few years ago, all of it was blocked (Guns was the reason, though drugs, goatse and comedy were all other reasons).

Gothmog1065 fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Sep 7, 2015

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003

Ynglaur posted:

The buildings those locks control, on the other hand...

Oh, you mean like main doors, garages, internal doors, rack closets, EVERYTHING? yeah about those... :cry:

At least we already had better-than-standard security on the server-, phone-, and UPS rooms so those are unaffected.

Lightning Jim
Nov 18, 2006

Just a mad weather-ologist :science:
Something about my webfilter at work is really weird about what got blocked on SA. The main webpage and forums are fine, but the JavaScript code that deals with forum features - such as the TIMG click to expand and shrink, the Star icon used to bookmark threads, etc - itself is blocked.

seadweller
Mar 30, 2010
Here's an interesting link for all our American colleagues on Labour day:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34123906

Stuff pissing me off - Dragon Dictate's educational software activation, way too over the top.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

seadweller posted:

Here's an interesting link for all our American colleagues on Labour day:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34123906

Stuff pissing me off - Dragon Dictate's educational software activation, way too over the top.

Less an interesting link, and more a depressing reminder. At least my company is pretty great about vacation days, at least compared to the rest of the US, since we're too expensive to treat like total crap.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Haha, "because we're not lazy, and we like money".

It's called paid time off you cretin.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Things that kind of irritate me,

quote:

Configure Widgets Settings
1. Click on Widget Settings
2. Click on Sub-Menu 1
3. Click on Modify Sub-Menu Item 1
4. Click the "off" Radio Button
5. Click Exit
6. Click Save

Would much rather read...

quote:

Configure Widget Settings
1. Open Widget Settings and open Sub-Menu 1
2. Turn off Sub-Menu Item 1
3. Exit and Save

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Tab8715 posted:

Things that kind of irritate me,

quote:

Configure Widgets Settings
1. Click on Widget Settings
2. Click on Sub-Menu 1
3. Click on Modify Sub-Menu Item 1
4. Click the "off" Radio Button
5. Click Exit
6. Click Save

Would much rather read...

quote:

Configure Widget Settings
1. Open Widget Settings and open Sub-Menu 1
2. Turn off Sub-Menu Item 1
3. Exit and Save


You would not believe how many people get confused by example two. In the end it's just easier to write it once like example 1 and send it to everyone regardless of how patronizing some will take it.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy

seadweller posted:

Here's an interesting link for all our American colleagues on Labour day:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34123906


Cherry picking social media comments to write a narrative is insulting to everybody. I can't believe this is a thing

And the idea that you can't take a vacation or you'll be replaced is absurd and is totally on the employee. People who have a problem with their current arrangement should bootstrap themselves into a job with a pension like I did, and then take 2 months of vacation all at the same time like my managers do.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Roargasm posted:

Cherry picking social media comments to write a narrative is insulting to everybody. I can't believe this is a thing

And the idea that you can't take a vacation or you'll be replaced is absurd and is totally on the employee. People who have a problem with their current arrangement should bootstrap themselves into a job with a pension like I did, and then take 2 months of vacation all at the same time like my managers do.

Yeah, I work at a not small company, and my group actually gets dinged if each person doesn't a)take 2/3s of their alloted PTO in a year and b) There has to be at least one stretch of 3 consecutive days on PTO.

Now, the enforcement is due to security policies for certain positions, but using PTO is strongly encouraged for all employees. We even have a whole section in the empoyee portal on how to maintain an healthy work-life balance. There's even been rumblings of stopping email delivery between 10pm to 5 am, but I think implementation would be tricky since there are a bunch of departments that are truly 24/7 operations.

If the author had surveyed only people who work at companies with policies like mine, it would be a very different article.

Cherry-picking is fun.

That being said, even with what *I* view as a generous and encouraging PTO policy, my Euro colleagues still think we're all insane over workers. One of them said he thinks it boils down to in Europe there's more of vibe that you work to enable the life you want live, whereas in the US, you order your life around your work.

Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Sep 7, 2015

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years

RFC2324 posted:

I always assume SA will be filtered because "holy poo poo it hits ALL the filters!"

That said, a couple places I have worked the SA front page was filtered, but not the forums. Go figure.

It's filtered at my work, category "tasteless"

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Danith posted:

It's filtered at my work, category "tasteless"

Serious Hardware / Software Crap › More poo poo that pisses you off: Category: "Tasteless"

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

flosofl posted:

That being said, even with what *I* view as a generous and encouraging PTO policy, my Euro colleagues still think we're all insane over workers. One of them said he thinks it boils down to in Europe there's more of vibe that you work to enable the life you want live, whereas in the US, you order your life around your work.

Europe also more directly and locally had the Soviet Union and successful labor revolts to encourage politicians to throw a few more bones to the workers.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Roargasm posted:

Cherry picking social media comments to write a narrative is insulting to everybody. I can't believe this is a thing

And the idea that you can't take a vacation or you'll be replaced is absurd and is totally on the employee. People who have a problem with their current arrangement should bootstrap themselves into a job with a pension like I did, and then take 2 months of vacation all at the same time like my managers do.

But there are plenty of companies where this is true, just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it is doesn't happen all the time. Hell earlier in this thread people were posting stories from Amazon about women who just delivered a baby being forced back into work the next day under threat of replacement.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Roargasm posted:

Cherry picking social media comments to write a narrative is insulting to everybody. I can't believe this is a thing

And the idea that you can't take a vacation or you'll be replaced is absurd and is totally on the employee. People who have a problem with their current arrangement should bootstrap themselves into a job with a pension like I did, and then take 2 months of vacation all at the same time like my managers do.

yes its just that easy

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Picking random Facebook comments and Tweets to shove in articles is really loving lazy though.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy
Sorry, my brain goes on autopilot into shitposting and irony if I don't pay close enough attention. The only thing I'm being completely serious about is the trend of sourcing news articles from twitter posts.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


godfuckingDAMMIT Etheric.

Etheric is a local ISP we use that does WiMax-type connections (don't think it's actually WiMax, I think they're using the Ubiquiti line of stuff, and they have towers on the hills nearby and just put up a dish to shoot to the towers). They're pretty much the only or at least one of the best options for "I need a connection right here in this parking lot tomorrow" where AT&T etc. will laugh and tell you "yeah we can be out in a month or two", but they have a nasty habit of loving things up randomly. To be fair, I don't think they gently caress things up any more than any other company, except when you're providing Internet connections it becomes really annoying and people remember it a lot more than if some website goes down for a few hours every other month.

So yesterday our office connection went down, which is also is the connection for one of our clients in the same building. Since they're a very small client that doesn't do any work over the weekend and no one was in the office this wasn't a huge concern, but we obviously filed a ticket with Etheric asking them to check things out. They claimed they could reach the radio from their side and everything was fine etc. We don't have out of band monitoring for that office (nothing critical is in it) so without an Internet connection we couldn't tell if the network gear or UPS' were having problems or whatever, so I went over tonight to figure poo poo out since obviously it needs to be up and running tomorrow.

After walking in to find everything humming away with no problems, and doing some quick pinging to make sure the network hadn't somehow borked itself, I consoled onto the switch that the Etheric connection feeds into (since we're piggybacking ourselves and our client over the same physical connection, the dish connection goes to a DMZ VLAN that the two ASAs "outside" interfaces then connect to). Did a shut/no shut to bounce the interface, flipped over to my continuous ping to outside, and saw that a couple pings outside had gone through and come back and then it had stopped connecting again. Flipped back to the console and what do I loving find? The switch has shut down the port because it loving received BPDUs. From a WAN connection. What the loving gently caress Etheric. :catstare:

After staring at this for a couple flabberghasted seconds (and this was actually while being on a call with their tier 1, so I told this to the tech who clearly didn't know what the hell I was saying, and this after taking 10 minutes to find the case that had been opened a few hours before because apparently their system doesn't allow searching by case ID :wtf:), I decided that the connection being up was more important than configuring the switch according to best practices, and set it to trunk instead of access, with native VLAN of our DMZ VLAN, and bounced the port again. At that point the switch helpfully told me of a native VLAN mismatch, and more importantly which VLAN number (i.e. Etheric's VLAN number) wasn't being matched, at which point I set the native VLAN to that number and the two access ports going to the two ASAs to that VLAN as well.

So now our switch thinks it's part of Etheric's LAN, at least on those three ports (since this was a DMZ and there's firewalls between those ports and the internal stuff it's theoretically as secure as it had been before), but I mean poo poo's working, and that's what will matter tomorrow. And they definitely changed poo poo, since we didn't touch the switch config (last change on that switch was July and the connection's been fine until yesterday).

Goddamn. Time for some loving Scotch.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

LETS TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE MICROSOFT ACCESS

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Bob Morales posted:

LETS TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE MICROSOFT ACCESS

That's still a thing? Not the hate, get that. I meant Access is still a program that is in use, like there's a current version of it and everything?

EDIT: Holy poo poo. There's actually an Access 2013.

Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Sep 8, 2015

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Bob Morales posted:

LETS TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE MICROSOFT ACCESS

Someone is using it for more then just proof of concept?

Did someone higher up the chain decide to purchase software that requires access 2007, when you already have one that requires access 2003? You now need to get two old copies of access on the computers along with a newer version of office and somehow support all this?

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Some users here have an Access "application" which retrieves data from a SQL Server and puts it in its own tables, then generates a report from that data. It never purges its tables so the file gets slower and slower to open as it grows, then about once every 6 months it breaks when the table gets larger than Access can handle.

I told them we could just rebuild their report in SSRS instead but they opposed it because they didn't want to change the procedure on the whiteboard post-its they call documentation.

Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Sep 8, 2015

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

I have to RDP into another computer to use it, Access 2007. Basically it keeps track of what controller is installed in our products, and they decided to do it in a one-off Access database instead of any other way.

Engineering wants a CSV dump of the table with the product serial numbers and the controller installed in the unit. No big deal. Except that 2/3 times Access freezes up at some point in the open file, export data, close file process. Ugh.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

flosofl posted:

That's still a thing? Not the hate, get that. I meant Access is still a program that is in use, like there's a current version of it and everything?

EDIT: Holy poo poo. There's actually an Access 2013.

In case you were worried, there's an Access 2016 too.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



A few months ago I made a database in Access 2013 to replace an Excel project that was running out of control and impossible to do any sort of reporting on. Access is poo poo, but it's still better than Excel at being a database.

Alliterate Addict
Jul 10, 2012

dreaming of that face again

it's bright and blue and shimmering

grinning wide and comforting me with it's three warm and wild eyes

Bob Morales posted:

LETS TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE MICROSOFT ACCESS

nielsm posted:

A few months ago I made a database in Access 2013 to replace an Excel project that was running out of control and impossible to do any sort of reporting on. Access is poo poo, but it's still better than Excel at being a database.

Pretty much this. Access and/or Filemaker is the half-step between an Excel spreadsheet and an actual application, and for all Access' flaws, I'd still rather deal with it than the 3G Excel file.

Don't talk to me about Filemaker apps written in 8-year-old pirated versions of the program that some dude scrapped up 3 secretaries ago.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Ursine Asylum posted:

Don't talk to me about Filemaker apps written in 8-year-old pirated versions of the program that some dude scrapped up 3 secretaries ago.
Last job had some $5,000 COMPLEAT OFFICE SOLUTION written in Filemaker. Whole business ran on it, ordering, HR, financials, etc

mewse
May 2, 2006

Bob Morales posted:

Last job had some $5,000 COMPLEAT OFFICE SOLUTION written in Filemaker. Whole business ran on it, ordering, HR, financials, etc

My last job ran software called Orders Plus that hadn't been updated since the early 00's. It was built on a database called superbase (IIRC), which was written for 16-bit windows.

tomapot
Apr 7, 2005
Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Oven Wrangler

Bob Morales posted:

LETS TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE MICROSOFT ACCESS

We have users asking us to turn on Access Web Apps on our SharePoint farm so they web enable their database. :psyduck:

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


A woefully underpowered server arrived for deployment in a datacenter, with no iDRAC/iLO on the spec.

I guess this is what happens when you let sales spec their own stuff so they can increase their margins by pushing the costs down and setting their own sale prices.

:negative:

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

AS/400 that the company runs on was froze up this morning.

The backup tried to run but it still had Friday's tape in it (since Monday was a holiday) so the whole thing just locks up until someone changes the tape. :haw:

Since my loving moron admin can't fix it I'm having an outside consultant do it.

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