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paleo is based on a truth that adherents promote based on a fallacy instead of strong science - that a lot of the heavily processed foods we eat are bad for us (true to some degree though they would argue ALL foods not just SOME) because we should only eat what our paleolithic ancestors ate (false as we don't know precisely what they actually ate and we keep discovering new things like we ate grains a lot longer than previously realized, humans don't eat a single diet as we are omnivores and can thrive on a variety of foods, and regardless we don't know if what they ate was optimal for long term survival or if it instead just enabled them to survive long enough to ensure the survival of their offspring)
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all i know is that a paleo vs. a vegan would kick the vegans rear end on celebrity deathmatch on MTV brought to you by carl's jr.
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OSI bean dip posted:the ML has calmed down a lot because of slack. you need to speak to someone there to get access to it too so it's very much a walled garden can we get a bay area goon to do the needful??? i need my do-ocratic drama fix here!
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Heresiarch posted:CONTRIBUTIONS in the form of drinkable substances, ... greatly encouraged.
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bobbilljim posted:yeah this is her
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OSI bean dip posted:lol someone called the police at noisebridge the worst part of this is the use of "pinging"
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Cold on a Cob posted:paleo is based on a truth that adherents promote based on a fallacy instead of strong science - that a lot of the heavily processed foods we eat are bad for us (true to some degree though they would argue ALL foods not just SOME) because we should only eat what our paleolithic ancestors ate (false as we don't know precisely what they actually ate and we keep discovering new things like we ate grains a lot longer than previously realized, humans don't eat a single diet as we are omnivores and can thrive on a variety of foods, and regardless we don't know if what they ate was optimal for long term survival or if it instead just enabled them to survive long enough to ensure the survival of their offspring) heavily processed foods are fine, the fact that people eat 50x as much as they need to eat is the problem hth
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Nintendo Kid posted:heavily processed foods are fine, the fact that people eat 50x as much as they need to eat is the problem hth maybe the reason people overeat processed foods is because they are processed and thus loving delicious and calorie dense hth
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Sep 8, 2015 15:30
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Cold on a Cob posted:maybe the reason people overeat processed foods is because they are processed and thus loving delicious and calorie dense hth so are non "processed" foods, "processed" is meaningless. anything that's ever been cooked is just as processed.
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Sep 8, 2015 15:34
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why eat a balanced diet consisting of a wide variety of fruits, vegetables, meats etc. when you just eat raw calorie paste (available in five fun flavours) and then take supplements to get the other nutrients you're missing out on
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Nintendo Kid posted:so are non "processed" foods, "processed" is meaningless. anything that's ever been cooked is just as processed. this is why you don't have any friends in real life lol
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Sep 8, 2015 15:40
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yes i used a technically vague but colloquially accepted term that essentially means "foods from which nutritious vitamins, minerals, and fibre are removed and sugar, salt, and fat are added" loving sue me lol
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Nintendo Kid posted:so are non "processed" foods, "processed" is meaningless. anything that's ever been cooked is just as processed. but what about the toxins?
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Cold on a Cob posted:yes i used a technically vague but colloquially accepted term that essentially means "foods from which nutritious vitamins, minerals, and fibre are removed and sugar, salt, and fat are added" loving sue me lol so you used a word about a lie made up by idiots. nobody's removing vitamins minerals and fiber to put sugar salt and fat in(other than the fact that most basic forms of cooking happen to break down fiber and cause some vitamins and minerals to denature), also, you're describing most food from forever, humans be putting sugar salt and fat in anything they can for millennia what don't you get, everything you're talking about is regular rear end cooking for longer than humans have had written language
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the gmos man, the industry ... processing ... dont you know about toxins? think about the chickens, grass fed NO grains == poison... REAL food.. go vegan, one people, namaste
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Sniep posted:all i know is that a paleo vs. a vegan would kick the vegans rear end on celebrity deathmatch on MTV brought to you by carl's jr. u have my sword
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Sniep posted:the gmos man, the industry ... processing ... dont you know about toxins? think about the chickens, grass fed NO grains == poison... REAL food.. go vegan, one people, namaste yeah same
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Nintendo Kid posted:so you used a word about a lie made up by idiots. nobody's removing vitamins minerals and fiber to put sugar salt and fat in(other than the fact that most basic forms of cooking happen to break down fiber and cause some vitamins and minerals to denature), also, you're describing most food from forever, humans be putting sugar salt and fat in anything they can for millennia  yes i loving get it. my point is it's very difficult to delineate "bad" foods from "good" foods so people resort to vague terms like "junk food" because what the gently caress else are we supposed to do here? people that go "UH ACTUALLY," about this topic are helping the agenda of assholes that want to sell you lovely non-nutritious high calorie food and it's a useless response to the shitheads at the other end of the spectrum that want to sell you overpriced "health" foods based on vague notions of toxins and gluten and poo poo jesus loving christ why do i even engage with you?
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Cold on a Cob posted:
the point is most "bad food" is in fact good, people just stuff too much of all foods in their mouths and pretend it's that darn "bad food"'s fault see also: people who want to ban soda but see nothing wrong with juice ps: the food isn't non-nutritious, pretty much no food is non-nutritious. basically you've been fed a bunch of bullshit by different health fads over the years, and it's all bogus. you need to break free of that poo poo because none of it is based in solid science in the least Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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deep impact on vhs posted:why do i feel like i know the guy on the left i think we've all met people who were at least superficially similar to any one of the individuals posted
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Sep 8, 2015 17:28
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Nintendo Kid posted:pretty much no food is non-nutritious. You mean I can switch back to wood bark flour! Awesome, sawdust is so much cheaper than wheat! i joke but seriously the inner bark of pine trees is edible. A little gross though, if you eat it raw its all fibrous and you basically have to chew and suck, then spit out the wood fibers and eat the next piece. Flavor was a very mild, piney taste. Apparently some people find it more palatable if cooked or ground into flour then baked into bread. Protip if you find yourself in a famine. Caloric value is something like 600 Calories/pound and the trees take forever to grow back so it isn't the greatest plan. Maybe that'll be the next fad. Famine diets. A surefire way to lose weight. Yeah man its a question of if you're optimizing for nutrition (which does literally mean fat salt and sugar) or satiety (in which case you are better off slowly chewing salads and tofu stir-fries and berries). Or cost, i guess, which is a pretty big part of the equation. Really probably the most important part of the equation, and the fact that we can even sit here and debate which foods are best to eat is a triumph of agricultural surplus. Hail Cold on a Cob posted:my point is it's very difficult to delineate "bad" foods from "good" foods so people resort to vague terms like "junk food" because what the gently caress else are we supposed to do here? lol the nutritional contents of food are literally printed on the packaging. Just decide what you want to optimize for, make a plan and do it. Then don't gently caress it up by deciding you want pizza on day Keldoclock fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Sep 8, 2015 17:31
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please tell me more about eating wood
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Nintendo Kid posted:the point is most "bad food" is in fact good, people just stuff too much of all foods in their mouths and pretend it's that darn "bad food"'s fault juice is bad too because it is processed to the point where you get all of the sugar, a fraction of the vitamins, and none of the fibre of (approx) 5 loving oranges in a single cup of oj. that is way too much sugar in a single serving. many heavily processed foods only manage to avoid being non-nutritious because we add vitamins back in to prevent loving rickets in people that live off of bread and cereal, but please continue to believe that (for example) the differences between polished white rice and regular rice are moot. quote:Don't post poo poo like this like you don't realize there's room for a range of opinions on the issue. It's either intentionally inflammatory or you don't understand how to communicate with humans. User loses posting privileges for 1 week. or just get probated for being a loving braindead idiot incapable of communicating like a human being, lol ok sorry for the derail i wouldn't have responded except fishmech got probated so i couldn't resist
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shut up about paleo you morons. this is worse than a food hacking discussion
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i typically hack my food with a knife
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someone please carefully tap the poop enough to get on the noisebridge slack, thx
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Yodzilla posted:please tell me more about eating wood
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Sep 8, 2015 21:09
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Nintendo Kid posted:nobody's removing vitamins minerals and fiber to put sugar salt and fat in I am 
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Sep 8, 2015 21:36
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vitamins aren't removed from food you dolts, the equipment to do so would be expensive for zero economic gain
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oh ffs really? i was ready to let this go but here are three examples of food processing that do alter the nutritional content of foods: blanching - leaches both vitamins and minerals from food milling - removes minerals from food extrusion - ditto look up polished white rice and fortification if you want to learn more hope this helps now shut the gently caress up and i'm sorry again for contributing to the derail
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Cold on a Cob posted:yes i used a technically vague but colloquially accepted term that essentially means "foods from which nutritious vitamins, minerals, and fibre are removed and sugar, salt, and fat are added" loving sue me lol workin all day in the mcdonalds pulling the lever on the machine that takes out all the vitamins and replaces them with hitler's ashes
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shut up. i'll re-open this when NB does something interesting or a yosposter gets on slack.
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quote:Hey folks, who wants to make some art for noisebridge
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i'll bring the laxatives!
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:who wants to make some art for noisebridge can't they find some local tagger to make them a cool mural for free? what the gently caress kinda hackers are these people
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SmokaDustbowl posted:can't they find some local tagger to make them a cool mural for free? what the gently caress kinda hackers are these people you already know the answer to this, which is why we read this thread 
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They had a local tagger. She stencilled the pavement outside Noisebridge and the city fined them for every day the stencil was there. The mailing list spent weeks discussing the best way to remove the stencil.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:who wants to make some art for noisebridge We got a local artist to do a spraypaint mural outside out entrance, its pretty fuckin alright (its also indoors and not on the fuckin sidewalk lol). Also have a giant chalkboard wall to left upon entering
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