|
Lucy Heartfilia posted:i'm watching the third one and after that the fourth yeah honestly I'm jealous of everyone who got to be there when it happened. the endless 8 has two big things going for it: it's aesthetically cool when watched in a big chunk but also it was a deliberately designed event (some say troll but I think the fact that the actual result turned out to be so good in the end means it was more of a reverse bait and switch) and I'm sad I only lived the event part secondhand. but I have no one to blame but my tasteless 2009 self Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Sep 4, 2015 |
# ? Sep 4, 2015 20:54 |
|
|
# ? May 25, 2024 05:21 |
|
also, for new people (do we have more than 1? for the 1 who posts anyway), sorry for spoiling that there's 8 episodes, I guess. so like history lesson, a lot of people didn't know it was going to go on for eight episodes. and part of the "fun" for some people is not knowing when it ends. it wasn't spoiled for me but I guessed it was 8 by the title and a little because of the hype. apparently there are a lot of other reasons for the "8" part of the title (infinity sign, starts on 8/8, and so on) so maybe the angry otaku were just fooling themselves into thinking they weren't part of a conceptual experiment Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Sep 4, 2015 |
# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:01 |
|
airing endless eight was a really ballsy and ambitious move, on the level of eva 25/26 and the sopranos finale. more shows should take chances like that
|
# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:13 |
|
Radio Spiricom posted:airing endless eight was a really ballsy and ambitious move, on the level of eva 25/26 and the sopranos finale. more shows should take chances like that i love the ee but the level of anger on anime sites at the time was hilarious
|
# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:19 |
|
Only one week left!
|
# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:28 |
|
also for anyone who really wants to immerse themselves, now is the time to go back and start chronological order. I'm not gonna do that but I will forever admire anyone who does (intoxicate yourself enough to pretend three years have passed since melancholy s1 for max effect)
|
# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:30 |
|
Linnaeus posted:i love the ee but the level of anger on anime sites at the time was hilarious its obviously more difficult to account for western/non-jp audiences beyond internet impressions but i'd be interested in seeing the japanese viewership numbers as it progressed
|
# ? Sep 4, 2015 21:50 |
|
I got to the episode of Ouran called "Haruhi in Wonderland" and it's really great and all but I'd still rather watch a show based on this or maybe play it as a level in a jrpg Mia Wasikowska fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Sep 4, 2015 |
# ? Sep 4, 2015 22:00 |
|
I feel like people are overselling EE just a little bit, it really looks like they got green lit for the movie and did it as a replacement out of desperation.
|
# ? Sep 5, 2015 01:49 |
|
TheKingofSprings posted:I feel like people are overselling EE just a little bit, it really looks like they got green lit for the movie and did it as a replacement out of desperation. that's a much less fun and interesting interpretation. I don't think haruhi would approve.
|
# ? Sep 5, 2015 01:54 |
|
Hey, Haruhi believes in chronological order too. Kyon goes with broadcast order, so clearly Haruhi is not always correct.
|
# ? Sep 5, 2015 03:24 |
|
TheKingofSprings posted:I feel like people are overselling EE just a little bit, it really looks like they got green lit for the movie and did it as a replacement out of desperation. The last two episodes of NGE were partly due to business concerns and they still rule.
|
# ? Sep 5, 2015 03:31 |
|
I'd be curious if there's any evidence if that was the case, from interviews or whatever (about ee)
|
# ? Sep 5, 2015 03:34 |
|
The enemy of art is the absence of limitations.
|
# ? Sep 5, 2015 03:43 |
|
A Doomed Purloiner posted:The enemy of art is the absence of limitations. This. A good negative example of this is the Star Wars prequel trilogy.
|
# ? Sep 5, 2015 08:40 |
|
Just had a weird thought. I know there's little chance of any further anime adaptions being made, but I took a peek at some of the future plotlines. The sheer potential of loving with viewers with the legacy of Endless Eight is through the roof. People would die if they handle the alpha/beta timelines in a way that makes them look like Endless Eight at first I'm glad they had the balls to pull it off - it's just incomprehensible. I'd never have found out about Haruhi too, if it weren't for it.
|
# ? Sep 5, 2015 13:31 |
|
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 07:55 |
|
Watched Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. gently caress, I hate plotlines like this. Did Kyon just break time, forwards and backwards? And Mikuru sending him backwards in time specifically to do that just raises more questions.
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 17:39 |
|
Also, starting with Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, it'll be new content to me. I know what the Endless Eight is and I have the basic outlines of the subsequent episodes, but I haven't seen any of them before.
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 17:44 |
|
StandardVC10 posted:Watched Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. Time's not broken, Mikuru wouldn't actively gently caress with time as that seems like something her superiors would really not want her to do.
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 17:58 |
|
Nah, stable time loop. Your actions in the past can't change anything because they're already accounted for and have always happened. Basically Kyon has always been John Smith. Generally, Haruhi runs on stable time loop rules though stories after the anime start messing more with that.
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 18:19 |
|
StandardVC10 posted:And Mikuru sending him backwards in time specifically to do that just raises more questions. Well, she'd been ordered to by her superiors, if I remember correctly, presumably Future Mikuru. Future Mikuru probably realised at some point that she'd been the one to give the order to travel to the past, and therefore had to ensure it happened, because she knew for a fact that it already had. To not do so would be to undo some past events, which would likely not be a very good idea.
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 18:44 |
|
StandardVC10 posted:Also, starting with Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, it'll be new content to me. I know what the Endless Eight is and I have the basic outlines of the subsequent episodes, but I haven't seen any of them before. Remember when Haruhi first meets Kyon and asks if she had met him before? She had, he hadn't yet though.
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 21:24 |
|
AndwhatIseeisme posted:Remember when Haruhi first meets Kyon and asks if she had met him before? She had, he hadn't yet though. Because it was actually future Kyon in the past?
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 21:27 |
|
"have I met you before" is such an innocuous thing to ask, and what you expect in a traditional romantic comedy. I like how the really long uncomfortable staring sets the tone for the show, but also makes plot sense w/ stuff aired 3 years later adaptations have their advantages when the adapters are smart as hell
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 21:28 |
|
Allarion posted:Nah, stable time loop. Your actions in the past can't change anything because they're already accounted for and have always happened. Basically Kyon has always been John Smith. stable time loops are bullshit and make zero sense because there has to have been a point where you didn't go back in time to do the things you already did, because if you already did those things you'd have no reason to go back in time and do the things you already did. BTTF and terminator didn't become such classics because of their well researched and complicated science trying to attach literally any meaning to the supernatural stuff in this show beyond "look at how this develops character X" is a fools errand because none of it makes sense or even attempts to make sense
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 22:49 |
|
Time Travel is literally magic so who gives a gently caress either way
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 22:52 |
|
all tech is magic but not all magic is tech *reaches up into the sky and gets pulled into cosmic wish fulfillment*
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 22:54 |
|
TheKingofSprings posted:Time Travel is literally magic so who gives a gently caress either way that's what I'm getting at, the explanation for all these supernatural things is "this teenage girl thought it'd be awesome if this existed"
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 22:58 |
|
darealkooky posted:that's what I'm getting at, the explanation for all these supernatural things is "this teenage girl thought it'd be awesome if this existed" still not confirmed, you know
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 23:06 |
|
The time travel in Haruhi makes perfect sense.
|
# ? Sep 6, 2015 23:19 |
|
darealkooky posted:stable time loops are bullshit and make zero sense because there has to have been a point where you didn't go back in time to do the things you already did, because if you already did those things you'd have no reason to go back in time and do the things you already did. BTTF and terminator didn't become such classics because of their well researched and complicated science Stable time loops actually work perfectly for Haruhi because it kind of feeds into the whole "time travelers only exist because Haruhi wants them to" thing. The fact that time travel only happens to make itself happen and effectively does nothing other than make the world more interesting is thematically perfect.
|
# ? Sep 7, 2015 06:30 |
|
What's the name of the smooth jazz track that plays when Kyon and Future Asahina are talking at the beginning of the ep?
|
# ? Sep 8, 2015 03:01 |
|
GorfZaplen posted:What's the name of the smooth jazz track that plays when Kyon and Future Asahina are talking at the beginning of the ep? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJfgV6h-uM
|
# ? Sep 8, 2015 03:06 |
|
Thank you.
|
# ? Sep 8, 2015 03:18 |
|
I will probably watch Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody tonight, finally
|
# ? Sep 8, 2015 14:02 |
|
THREE MORE DAYS.
|
# ? Sep 8, 2015 22:31 |
|
It's gonna be the second best 9/11 ever
|
# ? Sep 8, 2015 22:35 |
|
so pre game chat re: the folks who say "nothing happens/not enough happens in the EE/there isn't enough development to justify it's runttime/ etc" ((and I get where you're coming form): [spoilers obvi] did you at least feel the development of the style of each episode? like just from memory the shots and editing become increasingly abstract at key moments, kyon speaks more and more sternly, the music gets ominous, the slice of life increasingly desperate (with exceptions), the relations more tense - !!! from one pov it's a crawl toward breakdown (which we don't get to witness in s2...,) and I get why some think it was artificially stretched, because it's such an uncommon and undramatic presentation of that kind of story. the budget/making room for 'disappearance' explanation is believable for sure but I'd be really curious to know if that was the case. it wouldn't surprise me if it was just the decionmakers being ballsy and following their convictions after an enormous success. it's happened before and god willing it will happen again.
|
# ? Sep 8, 2015 23:22 |
|
|
# ? May 25, 2024 05:21 |
|
another thing I'd really like to know is who was responsible for what in some of the crazier decisions like EE or whatever. I get why it turns people off. it's a straight up weird thing for a big show. it's storytelling using the pure medium vs. the plot, it in a way that's uncommonly slow and deliberately off-putting to the target audience, who're averse thru the show's own self selection to boredom, and it's delivered as a weekly serial, potentially without end, which is such a cooly irritating way to present it, it doesn't matter how deliberate the decision was, they had to know what was coming. but also it's like a purer more straight up version of the spirit of the broadcast order from s1 - feeling from the form. there was a poster like "I don't watch anime to write essays" and I thought I was the same way but I'm helpless in a haruhi thread. thanks In Training on an unrelated note
|
# ? Sep 8, 2015 23:23 |