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Oh wow, that makes more sense. I always wondered how locknstitch had any strength in tension. Also, chernobyl was a human error on top of crude engineering and soviet-style corruption. Yes, the reactor had a positive void coefficient. Yes, it had no real containment. Even the building it was in was in poor shape when built, the concrete precast blocks were so poorly cast they had issues and fewer were shipped than were called for in the design. Yes, the test plan was a bad idea and yes it was run across a shift change. But that isn't what doomed them. The other problem was because of the overly political management and overbearing bureaucracy. Remember, things were so bureaucratic and bureaucrats so incompetent in the USSR that people on the ground were used to asking for permission to do a test, and then taking no response as implicit consent because most inept bureaucrats just ignored anything they didn't understand. So instead of the request going up the chain, then back down till it reached the reactor designers, it sat on some useless fuckasses desk because he was afraid to approve or reject it, and the operators (who had been taught to treat it like a very large, magical coal/steam turbine) decided that meant their plan was solid and went for it. And then it blew the gently caress up. kastein fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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kastein posted:Oh wow, that makes more sense. I always wondered how locknstitch had any strength in tension. Pretty much. It was a perfect storm of everything bad about nuclear engineering, management, and bureaucracy.
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Sep 8, 2015 19:09
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kastein posted:Oh wow, that makes more sense. I always wondered how locknstitch had any strength in tension. no, it was because atoms are bad, and so we should never use nuclear ever
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When I saw the huge cardboard template on the Diesel Generator repair I instantly thought of project Binky, "Hey, they also use CAD (Cardboard aided design)"
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Alighieri posted:When I saw the huge cardboard template on the Diesel Generator repair I instantly thought of project Binky, "Hey, they also use CAD (Cardboard aided design)" "We've bolted this portable mill to the engine. Now, we need to make sure it's level." "Come on, make the noise..."
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Sep 8, 2015 22:18
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How do you make sure things are level on a ship?
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Sep 8, 2015 22:21
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Geirskogul posted:How do you make sure things are level on a ship? Take readings over a period of time and average the results. 
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Geirskogul posted:How do you make sure things are level on a ship? Serious answer, use local reference points within the engine room.
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That's a good question actually - my best guess is that they establish some piece on the ship as the reference point for levelness early in construction, and base it off of that, but I'm curious what the real answer is (other than "they build them on land, dummy") e: ^^^^^ well there you go
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Cakefool posted:Serious answer, use local reference points within the engine room. Yeah, was about to post that. You make reference to something you know to be level.
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It was a half joke/half real question, and now I'm glad I asked, and feel dumb for not figuring it out earlier.
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 quote:So the neighbor did his own work on his truck. He replaced the brake booster and from what we can figure, he punctured something in the process. He poured brake fluid into the canister while the truck was running and it got sucked up into the block. My boss buys the fluid by the gallon. This guy poured and poured until he seized the engine. He managed to get the full gallon into it.  
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Sep 9, 2015 07:10
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if nothing else that's certainly original
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I don't understand. With the vacuum line attached to the booster where would you even be able to pour the brake fluid?
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Sep 9, 2015 07:33
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gonna go out on a limb and say he poured it in the wrong place
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Sep 9, 2015 07:35
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If the master cylinder was fuckered, maybe a leaking master into the booster, which was also fuckered?
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jamal posted:I don't understand. With the vacuum line attached to the booster where would you even be able to pour the brake fluid? Into the engine, duh!
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Break fluid  Terrible Robot fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Sep 9, 2015 |
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Sep 9, 2015 11:38
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ShittyPostmakerPro posted:Yeah, was about to post that. You make reference to something you know to be level. To clarify on something convenient like that block each cylinder will have a number of bolt holes for inspection windows and the like, just pick a bunch that line up from cylinder a to c, crossing the damage in cylinder b.
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Impending horrible failure... RIP black jeep's 3.7/4.7 (wasn't sure which)  that is the serp belt hanging out underneath. Driver just looked at me funny and tried to get away when I honked and waved. WP is serp belt driven on those motors. Their problem, I tried. Have fun with your HGs, warped heads, and dropped valve seats buddy.
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......what the hell.
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Here's the story from the Reddit post these pictures came from: some dude on reddit posted:So the neighbor did his own work on his truck. He replaced the brake booster and from what we can figure, he punctured something in the process. He poured brake fluid into the canister while the truck was running and it got sucked up into the block. My boss buys the fluid by the gallon. This guy poured and poured until he seized the engine. He managed to get the full gallon into it.
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kastein posted:Impending horrible failure... RIP black jeep's 3.7/4.7 (wasn't sure which) I blame electric power steering. Lord knows he didn't think twice about the bright red "hey your alternator ain't workin'" voltage light.
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Previa_fun posted:I blame electric power steering. Lord knows he didn't think twice about the bright red "hey your alternator ain't workin'" voltage light. I'm not sure if that has EPS but it might. I would imagine voltage and temp gauges were freaking out and the alt failure and/or check gauges lamps were on, but who the gently caress pays attention to those?
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Cakefool posted:Serious answer, use local reference points within the engine room. I don't think it needs to be level to anything other than the surafce it's attached to. It's not cutting into anything, it's milling the surface smooth after the repair. And getting it level to the surface should be quite easy, given what it is and what it's for.
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EightBit posted:Here's the story from the Reddit post these pictures came from: Already in my original post bro
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Geirskogul posted:
I still can't wrap my head around where he poured the brake fluid. You'd have to have a hell of a leak in the MC to the booster, then a tear in the booster diaphragm, if the fluid was coming from the MC. How much you want to bet he filled the booster with fluid through the check valve hole, then plugged the hose back in? Only thing I can think of.
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Was it flowing through the vacuum assist line into the crankcase? All I got.
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Sep 9, 2015 21:14
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I have hosed up my share of repairs, but I've never managed to kill a motor with a bad brake job. That's some next level poo poo right there.
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Funzo posted:I have hosed up my share of repairs, but I've never managed to kill a motor with a bad brake job. That's some next level poo poo right there. Its the future of gently caress ups.
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Darchangel posted:
As  as it is, that's the only explanation I've been able to come up with that makes sense.
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Elephanthead posted:Was it flowing through the vacuum assist line into the crankcase? All I got. Surely if it was, it would be getting burnt up inside the engine rather than entering the crankcase.
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Maybe he did it with the engine off? Like, he knows how to seafoam a vehicle, but that's all he knows, so he filled it through the vacuum booster line right into the intake?
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Geirskogul posted:Maybe he did it with the engine off? Like, he knows how to seafoam a vehicle, but that's all he knows, so he filled it through the vacuum booster line right into the intake? How would that get into the crank case though? Through an open valve and then past the rings?
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ShittyPostmakerPro posted:How would that get into the crank case though? Through an open valve and then past the rings? It didn't get in the crankcase, where are you getting that from? It got sucked into the intake/combustion chambers where it then hydrolocked the engine, causing a rod to break free and try to see the world.
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I would guess that he somehow allowed the master cylinder pushrod to move too much (Passing the seals and either damaging or unseating them completely) and then just filled the fluid up and it leaked directly from the master pushrod opening into the booster body, into the vacuum supply line and into the inlet manifold. The master's pushrod is pushed by a rod that attaches to the diaphragm and then the pedal, so the opening the master fits into in the booster body is the same chamber that the vacuum is present in, which is why it could go: master - booster - vacuum line - inlet manifold - throttle body. Impressive!
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From the pictures it seems like it got into a cylinder and caused the rod to break as it tried to compress a gallon of brake fluid? At least that would cause the damage and the picture with the brake fluid pouring out of the intake, but no idea what the gently caress he could have done to get it in there. (I'm p. dumb when it comes to vacuum lines and the like though, so I'm probably entirely wrong)
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Maybe he poured it directly into the booster?quote:He poured brake fluid into the canister while the truck was running and it got sucked up into the block. My boss buys the fluid by the gallon. This guy poured and poured until he seized the engine. He managed to get the full gallon into it.
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kastein posted:I would imagine voltage and temp gauges were freaking out and the alt failure and/or check gauges lamps were on, but who the gently caress pays attention to those? my brother doesn't he was heading home one night. said he felt a 'thud' from up front, all the lights on the dash lit up and the steering got real hard did he pull over and shut down? gently caress no. home is 1000' up a winding mountain road he made it to ~800' before it died. he was lucky in that it blew the rad instead of the HG. he borrowed my dads beater Jimmy for a week once and ayyy lmao yoohoo milkshake in the rad and oil in the coolant overflow tank. I don't let him borrow my cars.
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Geirskogul posted:Maybe he poured it directly into the booster? Yeah it sounds like somehow he managed to find a way past the one-way valve in the brake booster hose and directly pour brake fluid into the valve cover.
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