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Fuzz posted:Whatever, still more fun than plopping your fat rear end behind a glowy wall and pressing the same 4-6 buttons over and over while watching stupid channeling bars. Eh I think channeling bars are only bad when they are spam abilities or stuff that only does damage at the end of the channel. I like Penetrating Blasts, Blazing Bolts, and Ravage. Especailly Ravage. Does a ton of damage, nice animation and breaks up what you're doing. What sucks is dumb poo poo like Snipe, Tracer Rocket, et. all. If I have to sit there and channel something it better be awesome.
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My sub lapsed and just in time to find out I can't even choose my 192 companion gear from the weekly because EA is EA. I can't even fix it with a cartel coin bribe. 
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Sep 9, 2015 11:44
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Dely Apple posted:My sub lapsed and just in time to find out I can't even choose my 192 companion gear from the weekly because EA is EA. I can't even fix it with a cartel coin bribe. Well if you resubscribe, minor mechanics spoiler for KOTFE companion gear no longer matters. Their power level is based on affection. So it doesn't matter anyway that you didn't get the 192 gear
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Sep 9, 2015 11:48
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Medullah posted:Well if you resubscribe, minor mechanics spoiler for KOTFE companion gear no longer matters. Their power level is based on affection. So it doesn't matter anyway that you didn't get the 192 gear That new mechanic will also apply to F2P in KOTFE, you just won't get the new story.
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Sep 9, 2015 11:59
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Medullah posted:Well if you resubscribe, minor mechanics spoiler for KOTFE companion gear no longer matters. Their power level is based on affection. So it doesn't matter anyway that you didn't get the 192 gear I realized that after the fact, it's just the principle of buying the expac and then not being able to even get the rewards I got from it unless I sub too. PRETTY RUDE
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Sep 9, 2015 20:07
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When are we going to see these fancy new laserbats in the game?
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Sep 10, 2015 03:22
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Sep 10, 2015 03:41
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Dibs on the Wolverine Saber Claws. I'll be back on by expansion time. Got a new job and I need time to adapt to family stuff/a heavier work schedule.
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Sep 10, 2015 05:19
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As someone playing a sith inquisitor for the first time, can I say that when people spoiler tag your master betraying you it's really irritating? Like, dudes, this is a star wars game and you're playing a sith. The only thing more predictable is the color of every lightsaber that you get.
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Sep 10, 2015 06:01
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Tunicate posted:As someone playing a sith inquisitor for the first time, can I say that when people spoiler tag your master betraying you it's really irritating? Like, dudes, this is a star wars game and you're playing a sith. The only thing more predictable is the color of every lightsaber that you get. I do think it's a shame that the Inquisitor story doesn't let you betray them first. It fits for the war to be betrayed either because ds you're all "durr I smash stuff gud" while ls you are honorable (to a fault). Inquisitor is the perfect class to pull a Sindri on. But you never do and that's terrible. I'd have killed to not only stick Zash in Khem, but do it knowingly and with a smug rear end grin on my face as I'm all like, "Oh thanks for doing all this work for me Zash."
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Sep 10, 2015 07:53
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I have to admit, I'm really enjoying playing as a Light-Side Bounty Hunter. So many opportunities to tell the Sith to gently caress off, they're not my supervisors.
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Sep 10, 2015 10:57
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Well all you do in any Empire storyline is kill sith and gently caress over the empire. Probably more so than the republic, who'd have thought they'd be getting their arses kicked in the war.
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Sep 10, 2015 12:18
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maev posted:Well all you do in any Empire storyline is kill sith and gently caress over the empire. Probably more so than the republic, who'd have thought they'd be getting their arses kicked in the war. Yup. I've finished three of the four classes on Imp side and god drat the war is looking one sided.
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Sep 10, 2015 13:49
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SKY COQ posted:Yup. I've finished three of the four classes on Imp side and god drat the war is looking one sided. I mean, we know they lose eventually, since by the time of the prequels only the republic is still around and most people don't remember what a "sith" is (in fact the word falls out of the galaxy's vocabulary entirely just 20 years or so later)
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Sep 10, 2015 13:55
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SKY COQ posted:Yup. I've finished three of the four classes on Imp side and god drat the war is looking one sided.  thrakkorzog posted:I have to admit, I'm really enjoying playing as a Light-Side Bounty Hunter. So many opportunities to tell the Sith to gently caress off, they're not my supervisors.
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Sep 10, 2015 14:08
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So my Trooper didn't get the Captain title after Act 1, so I put in a ticket in-character asking Republic Command for help, because Jorgan was being insubordinate and hissing at me since he was a LT now as well, and Dorne was being a pain in the rear end citing rank regulations and it was hindering Havoc Squad's mission. The reply I got: quote:Greetings Fêmshep, This game. 
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Sep 10, 2015 16:22
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Fuzz posted:So my Trooper didn't get the Captain title after Act 1, so I put in a ticket in-character asking Republic Command for help, because Jorgan was being insubordinate and hissing at me since he was a LT now as well, and Dorne was being a pain in the rear end citing rank regulations and it was hindering Havoc Squad's mission. The customer support in this game is, and always has been, fantastic.
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Sep 10, 2015 17:52
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Ainsley McTree posted:I mean, we know they lose eventually, since by the time of the prequels only the republic is still around and most people don't remember what a "sith" is (in fact the word falls out of the galaxy's vocabulary entirely just 20 years or so later) Yeah to an extent, but there's over 3000 years between TOR and the prequels so pretty much anything could have happened several times over
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Sep 10, 2015 23:00
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Love me some conquest. Did those 50 ilum HM flashpoints for conquest points. Picked up a purple crystal decoration, an emperor statue, and a rendili fireball speeder.
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Sep 10, 2015 23:01
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RentACop posted:Yeah to an extent, but there's over 3000 years between TOR and the prequels so pretty much anything could have happened several times over Well, except the Republic being destroyed.
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Sep 10, 2015 23:24
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Defiance Industries posted:Well, except the Republic being destroyed. As long as a Galactic Republic is back up and running at the time of the prequels.
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Sep 10, 2015 23:27
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Cythereal posted:As long as a Galactic Republic is back up and running at the time of the prequels. The movies say "a thousand generations" so TOR is way too soon for the Republic to fall
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Sep 10, 2015 23:37
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Defiance Industries posted:The movies say "a thousand generations" so TOR is way too soon for the Republic to fall Presumably not counting times when the Republic had functionally if not officially fallen, like in KOTOR2 and how it looks to be in KOTFE, and other potential hiccups that would ruin a good poetic phrase.
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Sep 10, 2015 23:39
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Defiance Industries posted:Well, except the Republic being destroyed. Oh, well, the republic never really died since the ember lived on in the noble resistance who eventually retook control, it's pretty easy to handwave if need be The movies also waver between "generations" and "years" so I always thought it was more just "a longass time" edit: wait poo poo, The Chad Jihad fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Sep 10, 2015 23:41
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Yeah as long as Coruscant or some other place could keep a couple of senators around they could say they didn't fall. It seems in general there was a big galactic dark age in between this Republic and that one however, to explain away why no one shits their pants at the word Sith or whatever. Or how no one laughed that Palpy is a very, very dedicated ren faire cosplay enthusiast.
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Sep 11, 2015 00:01
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Ainsley McTree posted:I mean, we know they lose eventually, since by the time of the prequels only the republic is still around and most people don't remember what a "sith" is (in fact the word falls out of the galaxy's vocabulary entirely just 20 years or so later) The Sith don't really go under until about 1000 BBY after the Battle of Ruusan when Darth Bane institutes the Rule of 2 and the Sith as a big organization basically disappear, leading to an unbroken chain of masters and apprentices that culminates in Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine. The Sith Empire, as we know it in SWTOR, seems like it was gone/splintered by then (around 2000 BBY) but that's still 1000 years from now, in-game.
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Fuzz posted:So my Trooper didn't get the Captain title after Act 1, so I put in a ticket in-character asking Republic Command for help, because Jorgan was being insubordinate and hissing at me since he was a LT now as well, and Dorne was being a pain in the rear end citing rank regulations and it was hindering Havoc Squad's mission. That's awesome. After my Knight got stuck in an unrecoverable infinite cutscene at the start of Rishi, I put in a ticket and got a reply about how he had gone through a lot of trauma, so he had been moved to the Fleet cantina to recover.
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Sep 11, 2015 00:04
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The Republic never truly dies until Palpatine literally coopts it into an Empire in the prequels.
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Sep 11, 2015 00:22
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Fuzz posted:The Republic never truly dies until Palpatine literally coopts it into an Empire in the prequels. And then the Rebels, once part of the Republic, just form the New Republic Don't forget though that the Sith never actually disappeared (as in, red-tentacle-face Sith) - they were just marooned on a planet for god knows how many years. I never finished reading that series of books so I don't know how that turned out though.
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Sep 11, 2015 00:30
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:And then the Rebels, once part of the Republic, just form the New Republic The New Republic has a different structure as compared to the original Republic that exists throughout the story, even in the new Canon poo poo vs the Legacy EU. So it's literally a new galactic government. They even redoing the dating format to reflect that. (ABY/BBY)
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Sep 11, 2015 00:42
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0.02$ on the Sith stuff - most of the ones you kill are either in it for themselves only, idiots or both. Either way, it's weeding out the trash and only those with long-term benefit for the Empire remain 
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Sep 11, 2015 04:14
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It actually makes me want to switch my focus back to my JK. The Republic is clearly the winning side and the story actually makes a tangible impact on the Galaxy.
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GuyUpNorth posted:0.02$ on the Sith stuff - most of the ones you kill are either in it for themselves only, idiots or both. Either way, it's weeding out the trash and only those with long-term benefit for the Empire remain Yeah its for the good the Empire, but I dunno, it's kind of why I find the Empire the more compelling faction. The cancer in the Empire was so massive that Marr in no uncertain terms shows just how hosed they are by Makeb. And even then the Empire was an underdog, using the power of surprise, super badass fleets, and I assume battle mediation from the Emperor to utterly wreck the Republic's poo poo. But once the Republic started to reestablish supply lines, rally their forces and stuff, defeat for the Empire was all but assumed. At the end of the day the Republic can just bury the Sith in bodies. The one thing that they don't have is more Jedi as I think Jedi Masters have a life expectancy of a gnat. Also the story of the fact that yes, the Jedi and Republic did try to wipe out the Sith and they are trying to reclaim their ancient homeworld adds a great dimension to the war. And it helps to justify why normal people care about the Empire when so many Sith are gigantic douchebags.
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Sep 11, 2015 06:10
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Eimi posted:Also the story of the fact that yes, the Jedi and Republic did try to wipe out the Sith and they are trying to reclaim their ancient homeworld adds a great dimension to the war. And it helps to justify why normal people care about the Empire when so many Sith are gigantic douchebags. There's also little moments like the Foundry, and Republic superweapons like the Shadow Arsenal, Hammer Station, the Planet Prison, the Shock Drum, and the Death Mark. The Republic has an entire WMD R&D division that the Jedi Knight story deals with, and I think it's very understandable that the normal people of the Empire support and fight for that Empire when the Republic is throwing around more planet killers than the Empire during the story.
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Cythereal posted:There's also little moments like the Foundry, and Republic superweapons like the Shadow Arsenal, Hammer Station, the Planet Prison, the Shock Drum, and the Death Mark. The Republic has an entire WMD R&D division that the Jedi Knight story deals with, and I think it's very understandable that the normal people of the Empire support and fight for that Empire when the Republic is throwing around more planet killers than the Empire during the story. This kind of ignores the beginning of the conflict though. The Sith Empire is a 1,000 year old dictatorship built on an act of genocide by its ruler. It manipulated the Mandelorians into attacking the republic, turned Revan and kicked off the events of KOTOR and KOTOR 2, which ultimately devastated several worlds, nearly wiped out the Jedi and plunged the Republic into near-economic collapse. 300 years later, it launches a full-on invasion and conquers half the galaxy, only agreeing to a Cold War-style cease fire after (again) orchestrating the fall of the Jedi on Coruscant. The Republic may have been building WMDs, but given the threat the Empire presents it almost seems reasonable. It's also worth noting that the only one of these WMDs that gets fired is used by a Sith. Against the Jedi. Again.
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SKY COQ posted:This kind of ignores the beginning of the conflict though. The Sith Empire is a 1,000 year old dictatorship built on an act of genocide by its ruler. It manipulated the Mandelorians into attacking the republic, turned Revan and kicked off the events of KOTOR and KOTOR 2, which ultimately devastated several worlds, nearly wiped out the Jedi and plunged the Republic into near-economic collapse. I mean the 'real' origin of the conflict is that Dark Jedi save the rest of the useless fucks on Tython from the Rakata. As thanks the normal Jedi exile them. This pisses them off. They eventually find Korriban and the Sith make their own civilization, Republic finds them, war was beginning and then the Republic in their moment of victory decides to kill all Sith forever. Vitiate somehow becomes immortal and saves them in the huge xanatos gambit mentioned above. It's important to remember though that after that, Vitiate has almost no interaction with the Empire, content to just set the wheels rolling. I think it was ultimately Revan that forced the Emperor to issue the cease fire, though I'm not 100% on that. It could've been the Star Cabal or more of Vitiates long term plot nonsense. Really it's more taking something that's originally written as a bunch of puppy eaters and idiots and trying to inject some depth or at least sanity to the thing. I prefer a more sane version of the Sith but that's...not exactly Star Warsy enough? 
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Sep 11, 2015 06:50
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The other thing about the Republic's WMD project as explained in the Knight story is that it was largely overseen by a Sith Lord working undercover on Coruscant.
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So in KOTOR 2 the Republic is on its knees, the Jedi are all but wiped out, and 300 years later everything seems back to normal? Is this a product of 300 years is a long time, or that SWTOR doesn't really give a poo poo what happened in kotor 2?
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Sep 11, 2015 08:14
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The desolation of KOTOR2 doesn't really follow from KOTOR1 either, it's probably best not to think too hard about Star Wars continuity.
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maev posted:So in KOTOR 2 the Republic is on its knees, the Jedi are all but wiped out, and 300 years later everything seems back to normal? Is this a product of 300 years is a long time, or that SWTOR doesn't really give a poo poo what happened in kotor 2? BW went out of their way to tear down KotOR2, probably out of jealousy.
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