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I just grabbed and read Shattered Empire, seemed to be able to follow it fine though I don't know who the two main characters are, I'm guessing they're from something else? Anyway I enjoyed it. Marco seems to have been born to draw giant space battles. That art was gorgeous.
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I think they're original. I've heard people are mad at the other new post-Jedi thing, the novel Aftermath, for focusing on new characters (maybe it's just bad too.) e: The husband is probably related to Oscar Issac from the new movie. He was the X-Wing pilot in the trailer. http://www.comicvine.com/articles/star-wars-the-force-awakens-and-shattered-empires-/1100-153501/ Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Sep 10, 2015 02:35
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X-O posted:I just grabbed and read Shattered Empire, seemed to be able to follow it fine though I don't know who the two main characters are, I'm guessing they're from something else? Anyway I enjoyed it. Marco seems to have been born to draw giant space battles. That art was gorgeous. All the recent Marvel Star Wars comics are from the new continuity, in most cases there isn't "something else" unless that thing is Rebels or Clone Wars, or episode 7. You could read any of them from the beginning and be fine, even the one based on Rebels is a prequel to the show so it works all the same.
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Sep 10, 2015 03:04
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twistedmentat posted:I know in the real world, if you were to blow up lifeboats of a sinking battleship, it would be considered a war crime, its on the level of purposefully shooting medics. Though I mean, yea, the Empire would not give such consideration. Yeah, it's gonna be weird without these characters. I'm cool with them changing events, but I can't lie, I'm a little sad to see those people go. Also my theory about the new movie is that it's going to basically have Jacen and Jaina with the names changed but I have no confirmation of that, just a hunch. I'm willing to bet that Rey and Kylo Ren are either Luke or Leia's kids.
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I think of the new continuity as Ultimate Star Wars, essentially. The specifics are different, but most of the broad strokes aren't. The EU has pretty much remained the same apart from the stuff that conflicts directly with the new movies, in part since Dave Filoni likes to put tons of references into CW/Rebels. Thrawn is such a fan favourite that I bet they will do something with him in a comic or a novel somewhere down the line.
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Sep 10, 2015 03:24
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twistedmentat posted:I know in the real world, if you were to blow up lifeboats of a sinking battleship, it would be considered a war crime, its on the level of purposefully shooting medics. Though I mean, yea, the Empire would not give such consideration. The Lambda class Shuttle has weapons, lifeboats do not, it also have a hyperdrive and can flee the system to fight another day. Now if the Rebels were going around popping lifepods (unarmed, no ability to flee the system) I would cry foul, but enemy personnel transports are valid targets. This is no different than intercepting and shooting down transport planes evacuating military personnel from an enemy military base before its taken over/destroyed, or launching airstrikes on enemy troop trucks or APCs. Its ugly, but it is war. And, again, Space Hitler might've been on one of those transports, for all they knew.
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I thought Shattered Empire was very much a first issue. All set up and introductions. As the first part of an arc that is itself ultimately a lead-in to a movie trilogy, it was about what I expected.
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Sep 10, 2015 04:12
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zoux posted:So dainty. Four issues. The rest are scheduled to release weekly in October.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:The Lambda class Shuttle has weapons, lifeboats do not, it also have a hyperdrive and can flee the system to fight another day. Now if the Rebels were going around popping lifepods (unarmed, no ability to flee the system) I would cry foul, but enemy personnel transports are valid targets. This is no different than intercepting and shooting down transport planes evacuating military personnel from an enemy military base before its taken over/destroyed, or launching airstrikes on enemy troop trucks or APCs. Its ugly, but it is war. See the Iraqi Highway of death from the first gulf war. I did like how Luke is that good of a pilot that he can out maneuver an A-wing in a shuttle. As for whats canon and whats not this is how I read it when they first talked about it. Everything post Jedi is out, so nothing in the books, comics, video games whatever that happened is no longer main canon. Its more like The Ultimate Universe/Elseworlds. The new movies starting with Force Awakens is the new post Jedi canon. The same with the stuff in between and at the same time as the 6 old ones unless they're a self contained side story that doesn't conflict with the new canon, they're out. So something like Choices of One is out because its about Mara Jade who no longer exists in the new Canon (as far as we now. We could have Luke be widowed and he married Mara). As for stuff that is pre prequels or even old republic stuff, that is in, because for the most part it just leads into the prequels like say a book about young Palpatine. The old republic stuff is so far in the past that it has nothing to do with Star Wars current timeline, so it can stay. Some stuff from that were in Lucas's notes, like Darth Bane and the rule of two. Or the existence of the Sith as an actual race and its merging with Dark Jedi to create the Sith Empire and later Sith Order. Remember not all Dark Jedi are Sith, but all Sith are Dark Jedi. Hell, even the idea that the technology for Hyperdrive was created by the Raknai or whatever they are called form KOTOR games and when Human and Duros slaves revolted they got their hands on it. I really love the Star Wars universe, its so interesting, and because its so big, and so old there's lots of neat stuff to explore and you can have it, and never see it in the movies. So if you're wondering whats canon that's directly in this storyline, Clone Wars, Prequels, Rebels, Classic Trilogy and whatever we call the Force Awakens era. I'm going to assume the current crop of Marvel comics are also canon too? I haven't read anything besides Shattered Empire so I don't know exactly how the other books are lining up.
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twistedmentat posted:So if you're wondering whats canon that's directly in this storyline, Clone Wars, Prequels, Rebels, Classic Trilogy and whatever we call the Force Awakens era. I'm going to assume the current crop of Marvel comics are also canon too? I haven't read anything besides Shattered Empire so I don't know exactly how the other books are lining up. Basically, everything published from here on out is meant to be canon. We'll see how it pans out - this sort of project can be tough to hold together even with the best intentions. Hopefully once the movies start coming out and they have a clearer idea of where they're going to go, things will move more smoothly. This was a problem Marvel had last time they published the comics - they were coming out between the movies and had to do a lot of guessing, which led to stuff like, for example, the flashback story where Obi-Wan is on a mission during the Clone Wars, accompanied by his two students, Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader.
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Wheat Loaf posted:This was a problem Marvel had last time they published the comics - they were coming out between the movies and had to do a lot of guessing, which led to stuff like, for example, the flashback story where Obi-Wan is on a mission during the Clone Wars, accompanied by his two students, Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader. It's not like Lucas had that twist planned ahead of time. For all we know they ran that by some of the movie people and they gave a thumbs up.
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Probably. Same as with Leia being Luke's sister. I rewatched the movies recently and I was struck by how much he seemed to be aiming for a genuine love triangle between Luke, Leia and Han in the first two.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Probably. The "she's your sister" thing seemed like a really lame-rear end attempt to resolve that triangle in a movie that had no time for a real resolution to it. It's always felt like one of the weakest parts of Jedi to me. It doesn't really add anything, either. There'd be just as much gravity if Vader was threatening Luke's good friend/love interest instead of his sister. Although it did give us this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ccosUUPPvk
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Haha, yeah I've seen that. I tried to convince my brother it was from the most recent special edition and he sort of believed me until I overplayed my hand telling him the Blu-Ray version of ANH altered the scene where Obi-Wan says, "A young Jedi Knight named Darth Vader ... betrayed and murdered your father," so Obi-Wan turns to the audience and winks after he says that line.
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 From an unlettered preview of SE #2. Gotta say, some of the space battle art in the new SW books has been insanely good.
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Sep 10, 2015 15:58
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I'm liking the use of an AT-AT in an urban combat scenario. 
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Wheat Loaf posted:I'm liking the use of an AT-AT in an urban combat scenario.
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redbackground posted:There was some of this during Dark Empire, too. Good stuff. Please don't call Dark Empire "good stuff".
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Sep 10, 2015 16:28
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Ensign_Ricky posted:Please don't call Dark Empire "good stuff".
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redbackground posted:There was some of this during Dark Empire, too. Good stuff. Oh, yeah, Luke knocks it over with the Force. I guess that was pretty cool. Though I'm of two minds about Dark Empire. Story was bad, but I actually didn't dislike the art.
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zoux posted:
That's really cool, but something about some of the background ships and buildings reminds me of this: 
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zoux posted:
That is pretty amazing. Wheat Loaf posted:Basically, everything published from here on out is meant to be canon. We'll see how it pans out - this sort of project can be tough to hold together even with the best intentions. Hopefully once the movies start coming out and they have a clearer idea of where they're going to go, things will move more smoothly. Yea, I remember those as a kid and being confused as hell. I think Disney probably has someone in charge making sure things don't conflict with the films. And people who write for Marvel would be used to dealing with that kind of situation. You can't have during an event the X-men doing something that would conflict with what was happening in Thor.
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Speaking of classic Marvel Star Wars, the new series will need to up its game to have a cover better than this one:
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Wheat Loaf posted:Speaking of classic Marvel Star Wars, the new series will need to up its game to have a cover better than this one: The price is in cents but they spell it lightsabre? Interview with Noto about the upcoming Chewbacca mini. It's five issues, takes place between IV and V and is described as a "Star Wars western". zoux fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Sep 10, 2015 21:00
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Wheat Loaf posted:Speaking of classic Marvel Star Wars, the new series will need to up its game to have a cover better than this one: I like how Luke in the corner looks like Conan in a karate gi.
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twistedmentat posted:That is pretty amazing. Lucasfilm had a person whose job was just that. I'd be very surprised if they fired him after the acquisition.
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Endless Mike posted:Lucasfilm had a person whose job was just that. I'd be very surprised if they fired him after the acquisition. That guy's job must have been a living hell once the prequels started coming out.
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Sep 11, 2015 03:58
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I finally have proof that Star Wars is a space fantasy and not science fiction!
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ConfusedUs posted:I finally have proof that Star Wars is a space fantasy and not science fiction! What misbegotten creatures have you been arguing with?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Speaking of classic Marvel Star Wars, the new series will need to up its game to have a cover better than this one: The new series needs to step up its game to compete with the issue where all the Looney Tunes gang up on Jaxxon the space rabbit. I did not make a word of that up.
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Lurdiak posted:What misbegotten creatures have you been arguing with? Clearly you are new to this place called the internet.
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zoux posted:
I'm kind of disappointed that this is only 4 issues. What I've seen so far make me think that would be a good ongoing series. Endless Mike posted:Lucasfilm had a person whose job was just that. I'd be very surprised if they fired him after the acquisition. His name is Leland Chee and he is still working with Lucasfilm. "After The Walt Disney Company's acquisition of Lucasfilm, Chee was assigned a job within the newly formed Lucasfilm Story Group, whose main purpose is to eliminate the Star Wars franchise's current canon hierarchy and create one cohesive canon"
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zoux posted:
Guess who's also getting his own mini?
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Sep 12, 2015 03:41
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Aw, it's just Goldenrod. I was hoping they'd announced THRAWN #1
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I told my comic guy to just sign me up for anything Star Wars. I'm fuckin loving this poo poo
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zoux posted:
I don't think that AT-AT will be able to clear that building frame.
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I don't think the AT-AT cares. 
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Galaga Galaxian posted:I don't think the AT-AT cares. Heavy Blasters CAN melt steel beams.
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Lando's "horrifying tales of Romantic Conquest" continue this week. 
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Lando's "horrifying tales of Romantic Conquest" continue this week. There's nothing more powerful in Star Wars than Lando's smooth talk! Also: Chewie, coming to save the day.
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