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Manifest posted:YESSSSSSSSSSS The Night of the Hunter Prometheus
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One more: Cool Hand Luke
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Chappie could be good for that class. Lots of Cain/Abel subtext, along with the resurrection/etc stuff.Snak posted:I feel like you can't talk about voice-overs in film and not mention "Stranger Than Fiction". Or Shawshank Redemption. They actually recorded the VO first and staged quiet parts of scenes for the VO. got any sevens fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Sep 9, 2015 |
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Sep 9, 2015 07:39
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lizardman posted:Jesus, are you guys who were so offended and appalled by the immorality of Mrs. Doubtfire and Forrest Gump also those people who are disgusted by Ferris Bueller's Day Off's celebration of an obvious manipulative sociopath? Oh, I love the hell out of Ferris Bueller. As far as I'm concerned, the problem, or lack thereof, as the case may be, is mostly in the presentation.
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effectual posted:Chappie could be good for that class. Lots of Cain/Abel subtext, along with the resurrection/etc stuff. I feel bad now because I still haven't seen Chappie.
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Chappie is notable because Chappie is alongside two other criminals, like Jesus kinda-sorta-not-really was. Elysium is a much better metaphorical comparison and lots of biblical imagery without being a straight-up adaption. Even inexperienced students should be able to see the crucifixion imagery, for example.
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Winnie the Pooh sounds like an adaptation of Isaiah 11:6, too.
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Please don't watch Fireproof, even ironically. We can find some religious symbolism in The Room for you if you want to suffer.
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cheerfullydrab posted:Oh dear God no. I think that Forrest Gump is one of those movies that's so ingrained in the culture that it's hard for us to think about it critically, and the point of asking people about the genderswapped hypothetical is not to get into that shitswamp but to kind of take people out of their usual feelings and ideas about that movie. Like I said, most people I've asked think a normal Forrest and a handicapped Jenny makes their skin crawl. I don't think that's due to any "double standard!!!" but due to the fact that it is actually creepy as it is. I don't know the specifics about this kind of thing, but Forrest isn't a literal retard, to me he seems intelligent enough (perhaps conveniently so for the romance's sake) to be able to consent to a relationship. Also, and I admit this might be getting into Whoopi Goldberg "rape-rape" territory, but I feel like Forrest is hardly seduced by Jenny - it's obvious to everyone he's REALLY into her, and eventually Jenny just gives him the green light. Honestly even swapping the genders I don't have an immediate negative reaction to the relationship (well, except I think Forrest deserves better than someone who continually abandons him, but you don't have to be intellectually handicapped to hold a torch for someone who may not be good for you).
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yeah I'm not qualified to talk about this or open this can of worms, but it's not fair to deny someone sexual contact with other humans because they are "not a smart man."
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Cum, Forest, CUM!
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cheerfullydrab posted:I've asked a few people that question outside of the forums and this seems to be the usual response. Well, technically speaking I have a mental handicap (Asperger's/ASD.) Obviously Forrest is a bit more severe but I've never looked into the laws around this.
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Sep 10, 2015 04:15
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He could consent to join the army, so I don't see how he couldn't consent to sex. At least legally.
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Manifest posted:He could consent to join the army, so I don't see how he couldn't consent to sex. Hell, sometimes they're the same thing!
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Manifest posted:He could consent to join the army, so I don't see how he couldn't consent to sex. Didn't he get drafted?
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muscles like this? posted:Didn't he get drafted? Yes and I think that further reinforces the legality of his consent.
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Snak posted:Yes and I think that further reinforces the legality of his consent. He didn't get drafted, a recruiter handed him a flyer after he graduated college and asked him if he had given any though to his future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Z2m_oqEyU
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Armyman25 posted:He didn't get drafted, a recruiter handed him a flyer after he graduated college and asked him if he had given any though to his future. You're right, my bad. My brain just skipped straight to him finding his calling playing pingpong in the army.
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I always saw Forrest Gump as a parody of the American dream. I mean the idea is that if you work hard enough you can achieve anything but the film is about a literal man-child that randomly stumbles into fame and success without even trying who also happens to be the descendant of the founder of the KKK.
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I just though the movie was saying that the quintessential American is retarded.
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Snak posted:I just though the movie was saying that the quintessential American is retarded. And people from abusive families get to die of aids since they chose to do all those hippie drugs and sex stuff with radicals and whatnot.
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Manifest posted:Shawshank Redemption El Topo. It's about a gunslinger who goes around murdering magical gun-masters to achieve gun-enlightenment. Then he dies and is resurrected as Jesus-Buddha to disfigured cave people which live near a town that's been taken over by a cult that basically worships money and violence.
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syscall girl posted:And people from abusive families get to die of aids since they chose to do all those hippie drugs and sex stuff with radicals and whatnot. Jenny is pretty clearly a standin for Forrest's mom since they're both single mothers who have done socially unacceptable things in the past (granted, one of those was for the betterment of their child).
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Sep 10, 2015 22:23
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The funniest part of Forrest Gump was the entire civil rights movement being represented by one scene of a black panther sexually harassing a white woman and being punched out by Forrest. Also Ronald Reagan's failed assassination attempt getting as much screentime as MLK's actual assassination.
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Sleeveless posted:The funniest part of Forrest Gump was the entire civil rights movement being represented by one scene of a black panther sexually harassing a white woman and being punched out by Forrest. Also Ronald Reagan's failed assassination attempt getting as much screentime as MLK's actual assassination. yes because Forrest Gump is from the perspective of Forrest Gump, an ignorant southern white man.
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Snak posted:yes because Forrest Gump is from the perspective of Forrest Gump, an ignorant southern white man. Also that wasn't everything about the Civil Rights Movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eluXKOqxM28
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Sleeveless posted:The funniest part of Forrest Gump was the entire civil rights movement being represented by one scene of a black panther sexually harassing a white woman and being punched out by Forrest. Also Ronald Reagan's failed assassination attempt getting as much screentime as MLK's actual assassination. Actually Forrest punches out the white dude radical wannabe, whose only criticism of the entire system is literally "That lying son of a bitch Johnson...". Dude needed to get punched. In my opinion.
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Billy the Mountain posted:Actually Forrest punches out the white dude radical wannabe, whose only criticism of the entire system is literally "That lying son of a bitch Johnson...". Obviously the situation was more complicated, but Johnson was the President when we escalated violence in Vietnam and he dropped out of the race for reelection at least partially because of his personal shame about the whole thing, so I understand where that guy was coming from.
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Wow, Forrest Gump cops so much poo poo these days. This movie was BELOVED and everyone's favorite movie ever became either Forrest Gump or Shawshank. Now it just gets torn apart with criticism about every one of it's elements.
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It's part of my life, and part of me. I was born in 1985, the son of two people both born in the 50's. But it's a clear and disgusting statement of the way the Baby Boomers think of themselves and want to be remembered. It's using a drama to retell a story about a generation, a bullshit story. It's a con job with good acting.
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Every generation in history and into the future, from every culture and people, will want their generation remembered fondly and will stretch the truth to do it. Boomers are nothing special.
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I absolutely agree, but I don't have to like it. Again, it's a good movie, but the points it pushes are garbage.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Every generation in history and into the future, from every culture and people, will want their generation remembered fondly and will stretch the truth to do it. Boomers are nothing special. The boomers are special because there's a poo poo ton of them and they didn't accomplish poo poo. I feel bad for them in a certain way. "We had great music" "Your parents killed Nazis"; "Sexual Revolution" "thanks for AIDS and a generation of broken homes"; "Protested the Vietnam War" "Re-elected Nixon, voted for Reagan twice." Of course they're self conscious about their legacy.
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yes baby boomers literally accomplished nothing and every one of them personally caused AIDs and voted for Nixon, especially the ones who were 5 when he was elected
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Schweinhund posted:yes baby boomers literally accomplished nothing and every one of them personally caused AIDs and voted for Nixon, especially the ones who were 5 when he was elected This. Seriously. gently caress people who were 5 when Nixon was elected.
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LesterGroans posted:This. Seriously. I like my parents.
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I fault them for believing they invented sex, drugs, music, and art, that they think they ended the Vietnam War, and, above everything, that they got Reagan elected in 1980. That never would have happened without the votes of Baby Boomers. Also for filling the heads of us, their children, with their bullshit. If you want to actually talk movies like this forum is supposed to be about I'd say Forrest Gump is the greatest Boomer movie, but Saving Private Ryan is a close second.
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Schweinhund posted:yes baby boomers literally accomplished nothing and every one of them personally caused AIDs and voted for Nixon, especially the ones who were 5 when he was elected I said re-elected, and if you were 5 in '72 you aren't a baby boomer. Edit:If you were 5 in 68 you weren't a boomer either, I just picked 72 because that was the first year 18 year olds could vote for president and Nixon won in a landslide. To be fair, Reagan is much more their fault than any other president, and was at least as terrible as Nixon. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Sep 11, 2015 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:Well, technically speaking I have a mental handicap (Asperger's/ASD.) Obviously Forrest is a bit more severe but I've never looked into the laws around this. At least in the US, it's considered a disability covered by the ADA. This has been settled in legal cases. My generation's movie is apparently Slackers and/or Clerks. Or one of those teen movies from the '80s like Pretty in Pink but meh.
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