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Full Battle Rattle posted:I'm just curious what the Camp Omega re-visit was going to be. I suspect it was going to be part of the final reveal and you got to see Snake through the perspective of the medic, rather than the final mission just being the first mission with like two changes. It'd be Kojima revisiting what he did with Raiden. (Which is honestly what Venom Snake is: Raiden 2.0, right down to your name appearing as his name at the end of the game.) Edit: In general Kojima has a biiiig thing for 'the same things repeat over generations but in doing so they change." It's a convenient excuse to reuse character concepts but at very least he does seem to actually want to do something with it which is how you get things like Huey or Venom Snake. Venom Snake is arguably a successful SSS (the fake one,not the real one) project, right down to being put into place by Cypher. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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MGS2 rules but I like how Venom Snake was handled more, the ending of the game is a really cool sequence with him struggling with accepting the final role he has to play and its all handled non verbally which is neat. It's a very cool scene. I also like how Big Boss is explicitly cast as a bad person who will sacrifice an entire hospital, the life of a comrade, and everything that remains of MSF so he can continue his work unimpeded elsewhere. MIller's arc is really cool in this game and he has a right to feel how he does, but it's also kinda cool that he sees Venom as the real Boss worth supporting since he's the one who picked up the pieces and actually saved him.
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Sep 10, 2015 17:25
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It was Zero who set the hospital thing up, not Big Boss. By the time Big Boss awoke, everything was set in place by Zero anyway so he'd be as well using the decoy.
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I definitely think this is going to be a sleeper hit, once people come to terms with the twist. When I first heard "Venom isn't Big Boss", I was annoyed that he was just reusing the MGS2 twist. But this feels fresh. This isn't someone being forced to live up to someone else's reputation like Raiden was, it's someone taking on sins of the father (see what I did there?)
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oh hey, I just realised Quiet isn't going to die in the desert since she has no alveoli for the parasites to breed in due to her lungs being burned out husks filled with flower petals
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I definitely think this is going to be a sleeper hit, once people come to terms with the twist. I honestly didn't see it coming. I read speculation beforehand about the main dude not being big boss, and the medic having the same voice, but I just thought it was a bait and switch raiden fakeout, because the doctor said something weird... like 'we did the surgery' then 'oh we didn't do it', so I thought: "ok it's just my Metal Gear Online character I just created, ok cool". I did wonder about Ishmael but then I thought, whatever.
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The Radix posted:oh hey, I just realised Quiet isn't going to die in the desert since she has no alveoli for the parasites to breed in due to her lungs being burned out husks filled with flower petals Yah it's more she's just leaving you so the danger is gone.
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I'm bummed out Venom took her pictures down anyways though, but I'm choosing to see it as him being sad she left and not being reminded of her than angry that she left like when he takes Huey's down. Now that I've seen the 51 stuff I think I'd actually be really disappointed if that's what we got instead of the cool ending we actually did, I think as another mission in chapter 2 it would be alright, but if you put it after 43 I would have a really hard time caring because that one is way more emotionally resonant and powerful. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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I knew something had to be up when they first called him Venom Snake in previews. There's kind of a precedent with "old snake" having two snake names but it was still a tip off.
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I'm glad the game is the way it is and not just all our favorite characters growing up in the same orphanage coming in for a huuuuge party.
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Oh, I noticed something with the Afrikaans (which is clearly spoken by actual Afrikaans speakers. Hollywood could learn something from Konami apparently) Dude says in Afrikaans: "MOENIE KAKPRAAT NIE!" (Don't talk poo poo) subtitle: "YOU'RE TELLING STORIES!"
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redreader posted:Hollywood could learn something from Kojima apparently ftfy, by all accounts he's the guy who wants all those little details in his games. Even if it means going over budget.
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redreader posted:Oh, I noticed something with the Afrikaans (which is clearly spoken by actual Afrikaans speakers. Hollywood could learn something from Konami apparently) It's probably not intended, but during the Afrikaans interpreter mission, if you already got an Afrikaans interpreter, you can hear that the he improvises a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if they got an actual interpreter to do those voice lines, because it reminds me a lot of the way real interpreters improvises and stutters a little while thinking how to best formulate what they are interpreting.
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Terminally Bored posted:ftfy, by all accounts he's the guy who wants all those little details in his games. Even if it means going over budget. This game cost twenty million dollars less to make than that buggy turd of a rail shooter BioShock infinite. The budget wasn't high enough!
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This has probably been said but ... I get the quiet breathes through her skin, hence the skimpy clothing, but why does she need to make those noises while in the Chopper/ACC? Im sitting there doing PMF managment poo poo on my idroid and i hear subtle mmm and uhhs coming from the other side of the chopper. Its distracting.
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HardKase posted:This has probably been said but ... To make you ashamed of your words and deeds, duh.
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Under the vegetable posted:This game cost twenty million dollars less to make than that buggy turd of a rail shooter BioShock infinite. The budget wasn't high enough! Bioshock Infinite cost 100 mil??? Holy gently caress
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Under the vegetable posted:This game cost twenty million dollars less to make than that buggy turd of a rail shooter BioShock infinite. The budget wasn't high enough! I didn't mean anything hostile by it other than this is a thing he does often. He went over budget in 2 and 4 also. And ran out of dev time in both cases, too. Eurogamer article mentioned there was a large part of MGS1 cut and I guess it was the same with 3 but you won't notice it since both have (comparably) concise and coherent stories.
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ImpAtom posted:To make you ashamed of your words and deeds, duh. She's likes Boss.
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The camp omega return could have been the "meanwhile snake does a mission to get info" in mission 51. But since that's all wrapped up in intro/tanker chapter type stuff I'd guess it was more fun than that.
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The expression of female sexual characteristics is haram and must be stopped at all costs. Now, let's talk about Hot Ryu and the queer masculinity of stealth games.
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Under the vegetable posted:The expression of female sexual characteristics is haram and must be stopped at all costs. You can have this for your 'research' http://fuckyeahmetalgearbutts.tumblr.com
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The new Ryu w/beard is pretty hot though
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"moenie my vir 'n poephol vat nie!". Subtitle: "you're not fooling anyone" real translation: "Don't take me for an rear end in a top hat" (literally: poop hole)
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redreader posted:
It seems like bullshit but I've met someone like that, the kind of horrible liar that believes their own lies over everything else. Huey in this game seems to be Kojima showing us that Huey is what Otacon could have become if he never took responsibility for his own actions. Sure, Otacon is kinda wimpy but he never shied away from the fact that he built something horrible and spent the rest of his days trying to make up for it, while Huey kills SO MANY people and keeps saying he didn't do anything wrong. Ever see the original version of "Little Shop of Horrors?" That version of Seymour isn't so sympathetic. Even to the end he keeps screaming how nothing is his fault. That's Huey. I bet Huey probably had a snipe at Strangelove when he locked her in the pod. "Y-you always loved that drat thing more than you loved me! Y-you can just stay in there!"
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Well I don't care how dumb it is, for this one hazy night in september I am going to believe with all my heart that kojima will ride over the hill tomorrow with an announcement that will tear the world asunder
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Strangelove is clearly not bi. She's full lesbian. I don't know why she ever gave Huey a chance. It's like... it's almost like she's actually bi. But she isn't?
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Turns out that Hideo Kojima was never actually working on Metal Gear Solid V. It was instead a fake, a phantom Hideo, designed to attract attention from Konami and the fans and to uphold his legend while the real Hideo Kojima created his true game in secret.redreader posted:Strangelove is clearly not bi. She's full lesbian. I don't know why she ever gave Huey a chance. It's like... it's almost like she's actually bi. But she isn't? I'm not sure why you don't think she's bi. She's clearly more in love with the Boss than anyone else but that doesn't preclude her being bi.
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ThomasPaine posted:Well I don't care how dumb it is, for this one hazy night in september I am going to believe with all my heart that kojima will ride over the hill tomorrow with an announcement that will tear the world asunder "I'm making a movie with Uwe Boll"
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iGestalt posted:"I'm making a movie with Uwe Boll" I would watch this tbf
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ImpAtom posted:Turns out that Hideo Kojima was never actually working on Metal Gear Solid V. It was instead a fake, a phantom Hideo, designed to attract attention from Konami and the fans and to uphold his legend while the real Hideo Kojima created his true game in secret. In one stroke he finally breaks his "im not directing this poo poo again" MEME and delivers a new Snatcher game.
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An open world Snatcher game could be amazing. Cyberpunk LA Noir but by team that knows that they're doing and directed by a man who can't help but shove details into everything. Now I'm even more depressed about konami 
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Broseph Brostar posted:An open world Snatcher game could be amazing. Cyberpunk LA Noir but by team that knows that they're doing and directed by a man who can't help but shove details into everything. Now I'm even more depressed about konami That really would be utterly incredible. Darn
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This vaguely ties to the MGSV in the most contrived way possible because !!!!80s!!!!! but I've been hankering after an LA Noire sequel featuring an 80s cop duo for a while now. Would be loving perfect.
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Broseph Brostar posted:An open world Snatcher game could be amazing. Cyberpunk LA Noir but by team that knows that they're doing and directed by a man who can't help but shove details into everything. Now I'm even more depressed about konami Oooh, yeah, and you know that Snatchers only come out at night and have to find ways of detecting and eliminating them while also not endangering the public. Double twist: Everyone in the city is an android already, including you. Snatchers are just the ones that have gone berserk.
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ImpAtom posted:Turns out that Hideo Kojima was never actually working on Metal Gear Solid V. It was instead a fake, a phantom Hideo, designed to attract attention from Konami and the fans and to uphold his legend while the real Hideo Kojima created his true game in secret. Clearly I'm letting my prejudices get the better of me, but it seemed to me like she was super butch. I've known like, a couple of bi girls who are butch but ... it's a bit rare I suppose. I'm a straight guy (what else being so opinionated) so I really have no idea. edit: also because how could anyone even like Huey
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ImpAtom posted:Turns out that Hideo Kojima was never actually working on Metal Gear Solid V. It was instead a fake, a phantom Hideo, designed to attract attention from Konami and the fans and to uphold his legend while the real Hideo Kojima created his true game in secret. But Silent Hills was also canceled.
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redreader posted:I'm a straight guy also shocking fact: there are 'butch' girls who are 100% straight
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Mostly that ending just makes me want to play the real Big Boss building Outer Heaven game I know Kojima is creating right now and will finally unleash upon the world once he buys the rights to MGS from Konami on September 11th.
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Endorph posted:trust me, we can tell. Strangelove in game says she really just wanted a baby she could pass on her genes and the bosses will with and didn't give a drat who the dad was, so she just asked the person she was working with. She never expected Huey would be as messed as he was or she probably would have been more selective.
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