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Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

So I really want to run Poe with the following setup.

Poe Dameron (31)
-BB-8 (2)
-Autothrusters (2)
-Push the Limit (3)

I have another 62 points to play with. I'm debating on putting a K-wing in, just because it's a new toy and I'd like to use it. But I also really have no idea what a good setup for the K-wing is.

I'm pretty new to the game and mostly play Scum, so I don't know exactly what's best for Rebels. Especially so since my local meta is basically all Empire or Scum players.

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Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Poopy Palpy posted:

Here's the next list I'm flying, mostly because of the name.

Poe-boy sand-Wedge (98/100)
===========================
T/70 X-wing: Poe Dameron (31 + 4)
+ Veteran Instincts (1)
+ R5-P9 (3)
X-wing: Wedge Antilles (29 + 9)
+ Push the Limit (3)
+ BB-8 (2)
+ Engine Upgrade (4)
HWK-290: Rebel Operative (16 + 9)
+ Twin Laser Turret (6)
+ Recon Specialist (3)

Mighty fine Po' boy there. I'm gonna use this name now, thanks. I do like the idea of a baron wedge.

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

Poopy Palpy posted:

Here's the next list I'm flying, mostly because of the name.

Poe-boy sand-Wedge (98/100)
===========================
T/70 X-wing: Poe Dameron (31 + 4)
+ Veteran Instincts (1)
+ R5-P9 (3)
X-wing: Wedge Antilles (29 + 9)
+ Push the Limit (3)
+ BB-8 (2)
+ Engine Upgrade (4)
HWK-290: Rebel Operative (16 + 9)
+ Twin Laser Turret (6)
+ Recon Specialist (3)

I doubt that the Recon specialist makes it worth using the HWK as a TLT boat instead of the Y wing.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Geisladisk posted:

I doubt that the Recon specialist makes it worth using the HWK as a TLT boat instead of the Y wing.

But everyone is putting TLTs on wishbones. I'm a special snowflake. :(

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I might have to change out my current tournament list of four BTL + Ion Y-Wings for four TLT Y-Wings.

Although I love the Ion enough to make it two and two instead.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
What's the name of the online vassal-esque sim that isn't Vassal? People were talking about it earlier this month, but I can't find the posts.

v I think that's the one, thanks

Big Mean Jerk fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Sep 10, 2015

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Big Mean Jerk posted:

What's the name of the online vassal-esque sim that isn't Vassal? People were talking about it earlier this month, but I can't find the posts.

Squadron Benchmark?

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

Poopy Palpy posted:

Here's the next list I'm flying, mostly because of the name.

Poe-boy sand-Wedge (98/100)
===========================
T/70 X-wing: Poe Dameron (31 + 4)
+ Veteran Instincts (1)
+ R5-P9 (3)
X-wing: Wedge Antilles (29 + 9)
+ Push the Limit (3)
+ BB-8 (2)
+ Engine Upgrade (4)
HWK-290: Rebel Operative (16 + 9)
+ Twin Laser Turret (6)
+ Recon Specialist (3)

Inspired by this I wanted to give Poe a whirl... This is what I came up with since I just bought a shiney new A-Wing:

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Why the gently caress do Kyle and Tycho have Wired? Drop those and Deadeye, add PtL.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

Strobe posted:

Why the gently caress do Kyle and Tycho have Wired? Drop those and Deadeye, add PtL.

What's wrong with Wired? I figured cause the Hwk gets stressed taking basically any GTFO maneuver so wired helps a little when you're running away from something. I agree with PTL on Tycho, I forgot about that somehow.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
If you have Moldy Crow and Recon Specialist, you should have all the focus you can ever use. Wired only lets you reroll focus, so the end result is you're taking a 100% chance for a hit and turning it into a 75% chance for a hit.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL

Strobe posted:

If you have Moldy Crow and Recon Specialist, you should have all the focus you can ever use. Wired only lets you reroll focus, so the end result is you're taking a 100% chance for a hit and turning it into a 75% chance for a hit.

Haha oh. I have been flying dumb instead of casual I guess. Thanks!

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!
Wired will let you reroll after you spend that focus. I think PtL+Wired is solid for Tycho or a Green Squadron pilot. Also lets you use an action for something besides focus if you need, and means that if Kyle is out of range or has to take a red maneuver you still have a benefit.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

Poopy Palpy posted:

But everyone is putting TLTs on wishbones. I'm a special snowflake. :(

The Nova open winner had a TLT HWK with mouldy crow on his list.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.
If you're not flying with a focus factory, is there any major disadvantage to running Tycho with PTL and Wired?

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Wired rerolls focus results, so I suppose you can elect to use it after you spend the focus, it'll just do nothing. It'd be okay on an A, as long as you have PtL.

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!
No dude, you can reroll focus results later in the turn. Like, in case you are shot at more than once, or used it on offense, or roll focuses on offense but want to save the focus for defense. It's a pretty awesome 1 point EPT for A-Wings.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


So Miniwargaming is now doing X-Wang batreps.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

The Gate posted:

No dude, you can reroll focus results later in the turn. Like, in case you are shot at more than once, or used it on offense, or roll focuses on offense but want to save the focus for defense. It's a pretty awesome 1 point EPT for A-Wings.

Haha that's my own fault I guess. Most of my thinking for X-Wing is asking the lines of how to inflict maximum pain on short notice, so I skip over uses like that.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Drone posted:

So Miniwargaming is now doing X-Wang batreps.

This might actually make me want to watch MWG batreps now.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


AndyElusive posted:

This might actually make me want to watch MWG batreps now.

Dude mispronounces Antilles, enough to turn me off :sperg:

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Drone posted:

Dude mispronounces Antilles, enough to turn me off :sperg:

Wedge Ant-Lees. Because illes is pronounced lees somehow.

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!
Watched the first few minutes. Already made at least two mistakes. Meh. Pretty much what I expected though, I remember when they did a big thing for Infinity, and just had tons and tons of things wrong in their demo.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

The Gate posted:

Watched the first few minutes. Already made at least two mistakes. Meh. Pretty much what I expected though, I remember when they did a big thing for Infinity, and just had tons and tons of things wrong in their demo.

Like what?

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!
Got initiative wrong (lower person picks, they're not automatically first) and didn't use Wedge's pilot ability when they shot at Fel turn 1, which is basically the only reason to use him.

Also the lists are so disparate it's just kind of funny. One guy is flying a hardcore tournament list. The other just picked three random named ships and tossed a few upgrades on them.

spacegoat
Dec 23, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Nap Ghost

quote:

So, you guys net deck lists (Imperial in particular) but clearly have no clue how to fly them.
You would be better off starting with beginner lists to build your base...because the people who play this game regularly will see your attempts and likely troll you...or just move on all together.

You are effectively trying to drive a formula 1 car...after just getting your learner's permit...
Dial it back... play to your skill level...and the audience will appreciate it. Go outside of your knowledge and you'll never get off the ground... WAAAY too many people doing battle reports and streams of Xwings nowaddays... and relying on the miniwargaming name won't save you

Lochness_Hamster
Sep 27, 2007
So single T-70 and Tie/FO ships are coming out for WaveVII

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/9/10/fight-a-bigger-battle/

updated R2 D2 card spotted

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Geisladisk posted:

"Take great game, slap a Star Wars theme on it" seems to be a winning formula. See also: Battlefront series.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to Starcassonne and if my friend can get a copy of it, Loopin' Chewie.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
I need Red Ace. Right loving now.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Lochness_Hamster posted:

So single T-70 and Tie/FO ships are coming out for WaveVII

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/9/10/fight-a-bigger-battle/

updated R2 D2 card spotted

Haha you can literally shoot astromechs off of Xwings now. That's hilarious.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Gonna put Cool Hand on Luke Skywalker for the pun alone.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

This is the guy who made that rant about not spoiling the new core set I posted a few weeks ago, BTW.

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Lochness_Hamster posted:

So single T-70 and Tie/FO ships are coming out for WaveVII

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/9/10/fight-a-bigger-battle/

updated R2 D2 card spotted

Nothing changed with that R2-D2. That is just the original core set card.

I do like the integrated astromech upgrade not costing any points and being compatable with the old x-wings. Makes an astromech something to always take with your x-wings for a cheap hull upgrade. Especially nice to prevent a crit effect at a key time.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay



He does have a point with, say, newbies trying to fly Soontir or Han Solo. But lol at the thought of starting from scratch instead of using all the previously accumulated knowledge and jumping off from it.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Chill la Chill posted:

He does have a point with, say, newbies trying to fly Soontir or Han Solo. But lol at the thought of starting from scratch instead of using all the previously accumulated knowledge and jumping off from it.

Yeah a lot of people in my meta have the painful habit of teaching newbies how to play with pancakes and it teaches horrible habits, like trying to joust using pancakes.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Panzeh posted:

Yeah a lot of people in my meta have the painful habit of teaching newbies how to play with pancakes and it teaches horrible habits, like trying to joust using pancakes.

Yeah it's p bad. I think it was ~easy mode~ before the fix but it's perfectly fine now and not OP. There are finer points and you kinda do want to joust sometimes and do a :krad: k-turn and kite afterwards but I don't think new people should learn those first.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Chill la Chill posted:

Yeah it's p bad. I think it was ~easy mode~ before the fix but it's perfectly fine now and not OP. There are finer points and you kinda do want to joust sometimes and do a :krad: k-turn and kite afterwards but I don't think new people should learn those first.

Even when they were dominant, they were not straightforward to fly(the turret is there so you can fly defensively and still shoot, but newbies tend not to fly defensively at all). People flying decimators straight into my list is why I won a tournament recently.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
So wave 8 is just going to be expensive as gently caress. I honestly expected these individual packs to show up before that.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Kai Tave posted:

Gonna put Cool Hand on Luke Skywalker for the pun alone.

That was also my first thought.

ConfusedUs posted:

Haha you can literally shoot astromechs off of Xwings now. That's hilarious.

:agreed:
Gonna love to watch my little robo-buds take a bullet for their boss.

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Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
I don't like how Red Ace is higher PS than the Red Squadron Veteran and still doesn't have an EPT. That said, his ability is loving awesome and the T-70 is shaping up to be a defensive juggernaut among small base ships. Six native HP, one pilot who gets evades for taking damage, ability to take autothrusters, arc-dodge friendly build potentials, and abilities that synergize very well with shield regen astromechs.

Poe with Autothrusters and R5-P9 and Red Ace with Autothrusters, Comm Relay, and R2-D2 are just stupid obnoxious levels of pain in the rear end to kill. Red Ace and Comm Relay in particular are loving hilarious, because in order to take damage you've probably already spent the evade token, which you will immediately get back and keep until you use it.

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