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ManMythLegend posted:
That's not my reasoning. My reasoning is because we've done it in exactly two wars and feinted it once, yet it's literally driving the defense posture (through long-term acquisitions) for the next half century. We are losing actual critical capabilities in favor of a mission that is almost certain to not be used. But I'm not even saying give up the amphib mission entirely, they just don't need a floating runway with high-performance fighters. The Marines will not be establishing air superiority. The USAF/USN will. AND providing most of the CAS anyway.
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Just want to say that I've participated in multiple wargames, COCOM level exercises, and a couple of smaller exercises including Bold Alligator (a poo poo show) in the last two years. I am confident that the Marines are not entirely sure how they're going to execute the mission in near-peer environments, don't fully understand the Navy capability and limitations, or are not honest in wargaming assumptions. I spoke with an Ellis group Major about some of my concerns during one such wargame and he basically hand-waved the concept. During one event, the Fires Cell had a cabal of Navy dudes who over the course of the week migrated into one corner and were openly dissenting about proceeding with big glaring questions remaining unanswered.
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Dude the marines haven't ever given a gently caress about war games. You remember General Van Riper and his speed of light motorcycles?
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Sep 10, 2015 20:09
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Travel day of 3m assessment: flight delayed due to flight attendant getting sucked out the door while the cabin pressurised on the tarmac. She was okay because it was only a 6ft drop, but that door just popped open when she touched it. I had one of two seats that could see this, but my BMC missed it because she was reading a book. This inspection is off to a good start.
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Sep 10, 2015 20:13
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Sir Lucius posted:Whole lot of care going on itt. You're out soon, right Panda? Yeah, already have my applications/essays for school as well as a few gigs lined up in some neighboring towns. I had a good laugh when they had me put in a C-way package anyway and it came back to me (along with every other person I know in my NEC that put one in) that I needed to cross-rate to MM, MA, CT, or IT. They're still having me take the exam, even though the last times I've taken it I've scored higher on the test itself than some of the people that picked up but didn't have enough bake sales under my belt to make up the point or two to advance. Even if I pick up I'd spend roughly a week as a third class before I start terminal. How about you? Re-enlisting for the sweet bennies?
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I've got a year and a half left. The Navy is fun and easy, but I want money, and there's just no deal where they offer me enough to stay in.
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Sep 10, 2015 21:15
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Commoners posted:Travel day of 3m assessment: flight delayed due to flight attendant getting sucked out the door while the cabin pressurised on the tarmac. She was okay because it was only a 6ft drop, but that door just popped open when she touched it. 
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Sir Lucius posted:I've got a year and a half left. The Navy is fun and easy, but I want money, and there's just no deal where they offer me enough to stay in. Ten months 
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Sep 11, 2015 00:31
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Commoners posted:I'm out in may! Me too! Check of the month club.
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Sep 11, 2015 01:04
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I am pleased to see the Navy color guard for the return of FOOTBAWL are using cutlasses instead of stupid, fake rifles.
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Sep 11, 2015 01:39
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4 more years here. just think 2 years ago I was in here talking about going to bootcamp, how gay
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Sep 11, 2015 02:18
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Hey! That's an insult to gays. Boot was retarded.
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Sep 11, 2015 02:29
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LingcodKilla posted:Hey! That's an insult to gays. Boot was retarded. That's an insult to retards. Retards like to be useful.
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Sep 11, 2015 02:35
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Boon posted:SWO sucks, but it's also been extremely personally beneficial in a way that I doubt other communities (with the exception of maybe submarines) can provide. Pls tell me more about this I sincerely want to know what to look forward to when this is over
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Sep 11, 2015 03:29
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Stultus Maximus posted:That's an insult to retards. Retards like to be useful. They make the food at bootcamp.
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Sep 11, 2015 12:16
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DinosaurWarfare posted:Pls tell me more about this I sincerely want to know what to look forward to when this is over You could get PTSD like a former baby swo friend of mine. Hell, boon might know the guy.
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Sep 11, 2015 12:17
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He's moved on to a better place where he's not paying 10$ for mohitos or whatever and can watch his Becker in peace
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Sep 11, 2015 19:56
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that is a fake person no one watched Becker
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Sep 11, 2015 20:42
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:that is a fake person I'll have you know Mr. Charles is a huuuuuuuge becker fan. Like more than anyone should be.
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Sep 11, 2015 20:46
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Like I just met the guy and he started going on about the major character development points in the female lead from seasons two to three or whatever fan. Don't get the guy started on Janeway and Star Trek, also, holy gently caress
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Sep 11, 2015 22:55
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In other Navy news besides a baby SWO got PTSD from being yelled at, I may get hosed out of taking the third class exam due to the special evaluation written for me by ECS never being routed to my gaining command. If they lied and never did it those NMT's were committed to the lie as the one who wrote it asked me if admin had sent back my eval for me to sign whenever they saw me and another gave me instructions to go to PSD at my gaining command immediately as it was being routed there. Thankfully they wrote me an eval here but wait we can't use that because I arrived after September 1st which the admin Chief stated to have been their deadline for it to be accepted. They won't give me worksheets without an eval. Now people above me are making phone calls and trying to track down anybody in Gulfport who can help out. This is making a very positive impression on me as a junior sailor. Also, anybody who wants to tell me "Lol you believe what you were told" or "Lol you didn't get a phone number for the person who wrote it", gently caress you, I've been in the Navy since breakfast and haven't played "Dirtbag Adventure" to become disenchanted and convinced everything is a waste of time.
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Sep 11, 2015 23:01
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:that is a fake person I saw an episode, it existed I guess 
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maffew buildings posted:In other Navy news besides a baby SWO got PTSD from being yelled at, I may get hosed out of taking the third class exam due to the special evaluation written for me by ECS never being routed to my gaining command. If they lied and never did it those NMT's were committed to the lie as the one who wrote it asked me if admin had sent back my eval for me to sign whenever they saw me and another gave me instructions to go to PSD at my gaining command immediately as it was being routed there. Thankfully they wrote me an eval here but wait we can't use that because I arrived after September 1st which the admin Chief stated to have been their deadline for it to be accepted. They won't give me worksheets without an eval. Now people above me are making phone calls and trying to track down anybody in Gulfport who can help out. Hate to say it but "lol you believe what you were told" applies very well, also "Dirtbag Adventure" is a very fun and fulfilling game.
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Sep 11, 2015 23:19
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Help me understand where as an E-3 temporarily assigned to a school I was supposed to unfuck this situation when a Chief tells me daily "We'll give you word" and no time to get to admin during business hours, thanks.
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Sep 11, 2015 23:27
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orange juche posted:"Dirtbag Adventure" is a very fun and fulfilling game. I made it all the way to E-6 lol
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DownByTheWooter posted:I made it all the way to E-6 lol same, they even made me LPO and asked me if i want to stay in, answer is still "gently caress no" They all seem to think i've been in for 10+ years, lol I made first in 6. orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Sep 11, 2015 |
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Sep 11, 2015 23:40
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maffew buildings posted:Help me understand where as an E-3 temporarily assigned to a school I was supposed to unfuck this situation when a Chief tells me daily "We'll give you word" and no time to get to admin during business hours, thanks. Uhh bring it up the day before you leave? At least you'll have another shot at BJOTY! Fair winds and following seas
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I was in their office every day until I left, the answer I got was "it's with base admin, we'll get you word when they get it back to us". I didn't just sit around going "Boy I hope I get an eval!". And what the gently caress is BJOTY
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Sep 11, 2015 23:45
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gently caress I should've just joined the French Legion
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maffew buildings posted:gently caress I should've just joined the French Legion If you joined the french legion you would be getting hosed in the rear end by a big slavic dude right now, instead of getting figuratively hosed in the rear end, it would be real, is your rear end in a top hat ready for that?
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maffew buildings posted:Help me understand where as an E-3 temporarily assigned to a school I was supposed to unfuck this situation when a Chief tells me daily "We'll give you word" and no time to get to admin during business hours, thanks. You could have tied yourself to a chair and refused to transfer until you had an eval in hand. maffew buildings posted:Lol you believe what you were told maffew buildings posted:Lol you didn't get a phone number for the person who wrote it maffew buildings posted:gently caress the Navy everything is a waste of time.
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PneumonicBook posted:You could have tied yourself to a chair and refused to transfer until you had an eval in hand. Like no poo poo, if you don't have a transfer eval in hand, guess what, you don't loving transfer. As soon as your rear end is out the door, not a single person in that PSD give a rat gently caress about you. Once you've left, you're not their problem in the slightest. maffew buildings posted:gently caress the Navy everything is a waste of time. also this orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Sep 11, 2015 |
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Sep 11, 2015 23:49
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Forgive me for not knowing this poo poo having just gotten here
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maffew buildings posted:Forgive me for not knowing this poo poo having just gotten here We're not disenfranchised and bitter for no reason.
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Sep 11, 2015 23:52
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ManMythLegend posted:Hahaha what? it was a joke
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Also, re: Slavic assfucking and being ready? ALWAYS READY
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maffew buildings posted:Forgive me for not knowing this poo poo having just gotten here you need a good sea daddy Nice! doesn't count
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orange juche posted:We're not disenfranchised and bitter for no reason.
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Mr. Nice! and our mutual close friend LT SWO encourage me to become a SWO. This is the opposite of positive mentorship
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Hey, to the LHA/B mission, why not make them skii jump carriers, since they don't have catapults, that way we could not use the expensive VTOL option, and comedy option, buy sea griphens for them, so the marines have their escorts? I mean at least the idea of LCS makes sense, something cheaper to do things like escort tankers and fight ships, a navfiied High Endurance Cutter except without the WW2 era design, with a few missile tubes to fight off choppers and fast attack boats.
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