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Germansimp posted:So I need to ask, how much time of that podcast is spent on non-DDT talk? 99.999999% of it. 
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Did it ever come out which promotion offered to hire Alvarez as their booker? The way it came up on a WO show with Dave a few weeks ago, it came across like it was either WCW or TNA.
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Sep 11, 2015 00:37
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It was WWE. Dave mentioned it on their boards.
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Sep 11, 2015 01:22
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Oh God, I can only imagine how much of a disaster that would have been. Vince would have fired Bryan within a week after too many threats of pissing straight into the air.
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Rodney the Piper posted:Oh God, I can only imagine how much of a disaster that would have been. Vince would have fired Bryan within a week after too many threats of pissing straight into the air. GODDAMIT MAN PISS IN THE AIR OR GET THE gently caress OUT Also, Colt's interview with Jarrett was fun.
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Bryan is BAFFLED that there are people who would associate the name Royce with Rolls-Royce instead of Royce Gracie.
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Has there been an MLW where Konnan has talked about BOLA yet?
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Not yet. Last week's was a special episode with JR and Kevin Sullivan.
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coconono posted:GODDAMIT MAN PISS IN THE AIR OR GET THE gently caress OUT I'm just imagining the Droz scene from Beyond the Mat "He's gonna-- He's gonna piss! He's gonna piss! Heeeeee's gonna PISS!"
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Jake in Stone Cold is really drat good. He was real good on Pipers podcast as well. A lot harder to listen to though. A lot of talk about his abuse and his childhood.
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Sockser posted:Jake in Stone Cold is really drat good. Sober Jake's dry sense of humor is one of my favorite things in this world, and I wonder how modern audiences would take to a match using his ideas about heel and babyface psychology.
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Sep 12, 2015 05:19
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CombineThresher posted:Sober Jake's dry sense of humor is one of my favorite things in this world, and I wonder how modern audiences would take to a match using his ideas about heel and babyface psychology. tbh, i think smart marks wouldn't like it because the work rate wouldn't be high enough
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Sep 12, 2015 06:04
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I think you couldn't do his type of match outside of a ppv. That slow calculated poo poo wouldn't fly on raw.
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Sep 12, 2015 06:07
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It's weird to think about, but I think Jake Roberts wouldn't work at all on modern Raw because he's too menacing. Even the guys whose gimmicks are we're really scary (bray wyatt) aren't near as menacing as Jake was. Jake talking about how much he loved the fear in Elizabeth's eyes when she thought Randy Savage was going to die is way creepier than anything Bray's done
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Sep 12, 2015 06:16
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bray wyatt is "spooky", jake the snake is "this guy is going to cut out my tongue and shove it into one of my eyes"
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Smoking Crow posted:tbh, i think smart marks wouldn't like it because the work rate wouldn't be high enough You're probably right. Smart marks are idiots. Alaois posted:bray wyatt is "spooky", jake the snake is "this guy is going to cut out my tongue and shove it into one of my eyes" Jake's character was a bad, scary man, and he generally always had clear direction. Bray could be a lot more than just weird if the WWE braintrust knew what to do with him.
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Smoking Crow posted:tbh, i think smart marks wouldn't like it because the work rate wouldn't be high enough Smoking Crow posted:It's weird to think about, but I think Jake Roberts wouldn't work at all on modern Raw because he's too menacing. Even the guys whose gimmicks are we're really scary (bray wyatt) aren't near as menacing as Jake was. Jake talking about how much he loved the fear in Elizabeth's eyes when she thought Randy Savage was going to die is way creepier than anything Bray's done
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Speaking of Jake I'm watching the Raws after KoTR '96 where they were using his alcoholism as an angle and goddamn Lawler gets really nasty about it. It doesn't help that Jake sounds so sad and defeated every time he tries to respond.
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Seams posted:Speaking of Jake I'm watching the Raws after KoTR '96 where they were using his alcoholism as an angle and goddamn Lawler gets really nasty about it. It doesn't help that Jake sounds so sad and defeated every time he tries to respond. jeez, really? I thought it was just WCW who did that kind of thing in the 90s with Scott Hall 
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Sep 12, 2015 10:23
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Seams posted:Speaking of Jake I'm watching the Raws after KoTR '96 where they were using his alcoholism as an angle and goddamn Lawler gets really nasty about it. It doesn't help that Jake sounds so sad and defeated every time he tries to respond. Lawler is brutal with his jibes. I think I heard that Lawler used real liquor in a skit when he doused Jake once. They were awful to Jake.
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Sep 12, 2015 10:54
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abraham linksys posted:jeez, really? I thought it was just WCW who did that kind of thing in the 90s with Scott Hall WWF also used Road Warrior Hawk's drug problems in an angle.
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MisterGBH posted:Lawler is brutal with his jibes. I think I heard that Lawler used real liquor in a skit when he doused Jake once. They were awful to Jake. Well to be fair Jake was full of poo poo the whole time anyway
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I'm pretty sure 'smart fans' only poo poo on 'slow methodical matches' when that's just an alternate term for 'boring'. For example, Jake Roberts actually had good matches, Randy 'The Viper' Orton has "methodical" matches because he's slow and boring. There's a pretty big difference there.
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Sep 12, 2015 14:59
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Yeah, Jake or someone like Destroyer working methodically, and someone like HHH working "methodically", is night and day
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Yeah, Jake or someone like Destroyer working methodically, and someone like HHH working "methodically", is night and day At least when HHH is working methodically, it makes sense. He will target a body part and just go to town. Randy literally just does random moves at a very slow pace.
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Sep 12, 2015 15:29
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Look at these Smart Marks what can't appreciate a well-applied chinlock.
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Mob posted:Well to be fair Jake was full of poo poo the whole time anyway Doesn't make the whole thing any less mean-spirited or unfair to Jake.
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Sep 12, 2015 17:45
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I'm pretty sure 'smart fans' only poo poo on 'slow methodical matches' when that's just an alternate term for 'boring'. For example, Jake Roberts actually had good matches, Randy 'The Viper' Orton has "methodical" matches because he's slow and boring. There's a pretty big difference there. actually you're getting worked bro 'cause Orton is one of the best guys in WWE
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Sep 12, 2015 17:50
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Orton is actually very very good and fun
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Sep 12, 2015 18:38
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NienNunb posted:Orton is actually very very good and fun
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Revenant Threshold posted:Orton is actually very very good and fun, except for the times he's performing moves. Or talking, because he sounds like a dork.
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Marquis de Pyro posted:I'm pretty sure 'smart fans' only poo poo on 'slow methodical matches' when that's just an alternate term for 'boring'. For example, Jake Roberts actually had good matches, Randy 'The Viper' Orton has "methodical" matches because he's slow and boring. There's a pretty big difference there. Jake had lots of lovely lovely matches for years and years and years while Randy Orton has pretty much always been one of the best guys in WWE.
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Sep 12, 2015 19:06
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Orton is really good most of the time, but sometimes he just doesn't click with a dude and the match drags on and on.
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Sep 12, 2015 19:14
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He's good with a good opponent and usually it's someone expirenced.
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Randy is great with everyone except for Sheamus and Cena.. The only problem is he generally only really wrestles Sheamus or Cena. Otherwise he's like a top 5 talent on the roster, possibly top 3.
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NienNunb posted:Randy is great with everyone except for Sheamus and Cena.. The only problem is he generally only really wrestles Sheamus or Cena. Otherwise he's like a top 5 talent on the roster, possibly top 3. I think the problem with his matches with Sheamus (and almost everyone) is that they usually seem very low-stakes. A lot of the time they seem to be in the perpetual feud over nothing at all.
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Orton is good when he's motivated but he's been there for so long, and he's never getting on top again, so he's basically going through the numbers which is fine. When Orton was at the top of his game, he was really good. He gave Mark Henry the best match of his career when he dropped the title to him, and the LMS with Triple H from No Mercy 2007 is probably one of the best matches of both men's careers.
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I like a lot of his Cena matches but the problem is that there's way too goddamn many of them, especially as a main event.
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MassRafTer posted:Jake had lots of lovely lovely matches for years and years and years while Randy Orton has pretty much always been one of the best guys in WWE. Jake sure did, but I didn't have to watch those every week on Monday nights, so I've only had to watch his good matches. I'm sure if I only watched 5% of Randy Orton's matches I'd think he was good as well. Alas, that lucky fate has eluded me. So instead I've watched him have the same exact boring match with every other boring wrestler in the WWE 10+ times. Admittedly, this is a problem with EVERYONE in WWE regardless of their talent, but Orton just seems monumentally boring in every way to me. Matches are boring, character is boring, promos are boring. He's the American El Generico, except you know, actually Generic and bad instead of good.
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I watched Jake back in the 80s into the very early 90s, and I never rated him at all. I loved the DDT, but everything else he did in ring left me cold. I thought it was all real at the time, but when I remember him, I remember his face run, with the jabs, a knee lift, shortarm clothesline, and DDT. I loved the character, but couldn't remember a single match he had. The podcast is amazing though, and it makes me want to see if he is better than I remember at the actual match stuff.
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