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DisgracelandUSA posted:Name? I can't get access to the killmail because zkillboard is apparently behind on its stats. I can only view kills up to September 8.
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Hexel posted:It looks like Brave is trying to evict somebody who is it? Holesquad tried to send some bombers but managed to not even make it into the hole. 
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Sep 13, 2015 07:14
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avatarinwin posted:There are only two ways to lose a JF: 3) bad gates. Eve has gates that when warped to from certain positions. *May* bounce the freighter out of jump range even if you selected the gate specifically and clicked "jump" The Aurohunen gate for example will do this. Perhaps one out of a thousand times. It has happened to me there three times which is why I had to stop using that system 4) The server has a hiccup. All of a sudden your freighter is sitting on the undock and aligning towards a safe spot and no amount of button mashing will make it stop. The freighter may or may not have an aggression timer. People take pot shots at freighters all the time. Then when you get back in. It slowly starts aligning back to "about" where you started. 5) The screen just stays black for a few extra moments after undocking. 6) Diplomatic reasons. "Hey we need some stuff evacuated from a pizza station can you do that?" *checks pizza station, no docking rights* Pizza: One moment. Alright we fixed the docking rights *checks docking rights with an ibis. All is well* *Jumps freighter in* 800 million isk docking fee Pizza: Lol pay or die. 7) Fatigue. (The regular kind) when you're moving 6 freighters and managing 7 cynos and have been doing it for 10 hours and you're just flat not ready to dodge a doomsday in some remote low sec system. I'm sure there are more. This is just a few I had on hand. Dalael posted:If the jump mechanics for jump freighters had been left in place when they first came out, and CCP had made Jump freighters much cheaper, could convoys actually become a thing? Freighter escorts do not work because the people who attack them do not care if they die. In the real world you can escort transport vehicles because as long as there are armed enemies on the field. The vehicles themselves will not be attacked. So the cargo is the last thing to be attacked as long as you keep them unarmed. In Eve people will go for the freighters first and ignore the escort and then die laughing. Zephyrine fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Sep 13, 2015 07:19
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Zephyrine posted:3) bad gates. Eve has gates that when warped to from certain positions. *May* bounce the freighter out of jump range even if you selected the gate specifically and clicked "jump" The Aurohunen gate for example will do this. Perhaps one out of a thousand times. It has happened to me there three times which is why I had to stop using that system So 3-5 are pretty much  , 6 is really the only one where you can outplay a JF, but that's such a unique case. Globby you need sov.
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Sep 13, 2015 07:23
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Zephyrine posted:Freighter escorts do not work because the people who attack them do not care if they die. Makes sense. I hadn't thought about it along those lines. Do you think anything could be changed to try and affect this outcome? For example, logistics trying to keep the freighters alive, or buffing the resists so that the attackers have to kill some of the escorts or else they won't break the tank before too many of them are dead?
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Sep 13, 2015 07:28
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The only way I could see freighter escorts work would be if the game had some sort of escort beam that made the users ship take damage instead of the target. So 10 battleships would use the beams on a T1 freighter and then logistics could repair the battleships who would receive the split damage that the freighter would normally take. Or a supercap uses the beam on the freighter and follows it around. But regardless all of this would still be terribly boring so I don't see why we're brainstorming to make it work.
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Sep 13, 2015 07:30
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I didn't know #3 was a thing for JFs, but it's still a thing you know can happen and can avoid. #4 and #5 are both totally valid reasons I guess. Zephyrine posted:But regardless all of this would still be terribly boring so I don't see why we're brainstorming to make it work. I agree and I'm not saying convoys are a better idea, it's definitely not, I just don't like how if the JF doesn't get tricky tricked into jumping into a red station or gets DCed or warps to a known problem gate that it's nearly 100% risk free.
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Sep 13, 2015 07:42
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Voyager I posted:Who is this FEANOR guy and why is it so remarkable that he keeps getting wonked? He's a Russian with more money than sense. Supposedly, he has more money than Scrooge McDuck, and just PLEXes up a replacement whenever he loses a ship. His tendency to haul high-value loads in T1 freighters, and his braggadocio, makes him a priority target for pretty much every suicide ganking group. e: holy gently caress beaten by an entire page, this is why I should F5 before posting
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Sep 13, 2015 07:49
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The bit I don't understand is why a guy who can afford to lose billions in collateral fees Plexes to do hauling of all things. Why not officer fit Marauders or something? IDGI.
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Sep 13, 2015 07:51
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CainFortea posted:Asher 2016 Aww k3dj posted:asher for president Thanks blowfish posted:asher for boat gently caress you.
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Sep 13, 2015 08:19
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darth cookie posted:The bit I don't understand is why a guy who can afford to lose billions in collateral fees Plexes to do hauling of all things. Why not officer fit Marauders or something? IDGI. 
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Sep 13, 2015 08:22
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He's like the Catpiss of hisec hauling.
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Sep 13, 2015 08:50
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Wolfy posted:Brave's big WH corp Dropbears Anonymous is getting evicted by Quantum Explosion/Hard Knocks/Lazerhawks. That's the last C6 that hasn't been turned into some russian renter hole or something, so a lot of people have piled into the hole to try and help them keep it. The old CEO of Dropbears (a drat PATRIOT) is the biggest inbred chucklefuck you'll ever meet. Hopefully this produces some decent forum porn or at least someone does the traditional BRAVE thing and runs off with all their assets once they've rebuilt.
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Sep 13, 2015 09:47
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Xolve posted:The old CEO of Dropbears (a drat PATRIOT) is the biggest inbred chucklefuck you'll ever meet. I only know him from him being a lackey/wannabe metagamer that teamed up with that Seraph dude who tried his damnedest to turn BRAVE into a "GRR GOONS LETS TAKE THE NORTH" group before being mocked out off of Reddit by BNI. What's his deal?
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Sep 13, 2015 09:52
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From a (mostly) outsider's perspective, escorting juicy targets like that is pretty much impossible unless the escorts can prevent the freighter from being targeted or redirect/absorb damage that is targeted at the freighter. The other alternative is to bring a big enough fleet that you can handle anything that might be out there, which guarantees you get yourself blueballed. Escorts seem like a cool idea in a "the first transport is away" way, and probably in a similar circumstance (emergency evac, taking a new staging system) they could be, but freight gets moved every day, and being the defender's never more fun than being the attacker.
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Sep 13, 2015 09:56
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Oh also, despite the monotony of sitting on a button waiting for a timer the new sov system isn't super terrible when you're hitting unused systems or systems people are refusing to defend. I'm still a bit surprised CCP didn't include a "self-destruct" function from day one but whatever. We were bored tonight and watched Se7en and Edge of Tomorrow while reinforcing peoples space in Delve/Querious and ganking their dudes trying to stop us. Which is why when this poo poo gets posted I cant help but think people are being super dumb about the new mechanics/system and just want to see a ban against a specific group of players. There's utterly unused/unlived in space and people are mad because they're not using it, and thus losing it to people who want to take it. The reason for all the stagnation posted:
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Sep 13, 2015 10:11
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Jesus, SMA is the third largest alliance in the game. This really is some Alexander Wept poo poo.
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Sep 13, 2015 10:16
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Unfunny Poster posted:I only know him from him being a lackey/wannabe metagamer that teamed up with that Seraph dude who tried his damnedest to turn BRAVE into a "GRR GOONS LETS TAKE THE NORTH" group before being mocked out off of Reddit by BNI. He faked military service so someone would buy him a jump freighter (iirc), He's the forum equivalent of an American Lee ChanKa (not sure if you were in PL at the time for this to make sense, forum search 'steroid sharks'), functionally retarded and he's that 'let me tell you all about wormholes' guy. Aside from the military service thing, none of it's really anything ~most~ terrible EVE pubs aren't guilty of at one point or another- he's just somehow worse. There's a special place in hell (or where ever) for people that think explaining wormhole mechanics to people is like saying they've discovered fire. If you're at that point in EVE where 'most' things make sense and you have a decent grasp of 'How to Play Spread Ships/Space Sheets', nothing in wormholes is oddly complex or obfuscated. Just like everything else in EVE there have been guides on wormholes since wormholes have existed, and slightly before if you were in the right alliance. Xolve fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Sep 13, 2015 10:44
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Since everyone in this thread is PL now, can anyone tell me what was in this double wrap? https://zkillboard.com/kill/49031627/
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Sep 13, 2015 11:00
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Xolve posted:He faked military service so someone would buy him a jump freighter (iirc), He's the forum equivalent of an American Lee ChanKa (not sure if you were in PL at the time for this to make sense, forum search 'steroid sharks'), functionally retarded and he's that 'let me tell you all about wormholes' guy. Aside from the military service thing, none of it's really anything ~most~ terrible EVE pubs aren't guilty of at one point or another- he's just somehow worse. I know of the Lee Chanka stories so that helps put stuff into some perspective. The "faking military service" or whatever sounds super dumb. Then again Templeman N trots out his military background to try and shame other players for poo poo he doesn't like. People are retarded. DisgracelandUSA posted:Since everyone in this thread is PL now, can anyone tell me what was in this double wrap? No clue, sorry.
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Sep 13, 2015 11:25
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Unfunny Poster posted:The "faking military service" or whatever sounds super dumb. Then again Templeman N trots out his military background to try and shame other players for poo poo he doesn't like. People are retarded. People do dumb poo poo on the Internet, I'm retired Military but of sound mind enough to not get upset when people do dumb poo poo like stand on flags, say they were E-13s, Special Seal Forces or any of that other nonsense. Templeman is loving Canadian, so all of his American Patriotism can suck dicks in hell- he was also a Peacekeeper for all of 3 years :slowclap: and I'm honestly not sure if he knows which end of the rifle the pain comes from. Unfunny Poster posted:I know of the Lee Chanka stories so that helps put stuff into some perspective. I tried to find the relevant bits on reddit, but apparently he now has a second account for moderating BNI's defunct sub. Fake forum points are super important. Xolve fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Sep 13, 2015 11:30
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Lol didn't we own Lee Chankas super in a loving belt like 3 years back?
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Sep 13, 2015 15:21
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I've actually encountered a nullsec freighter escort in the wild. It got split up. One straggler was killed by a sabre and two blops. The remaining 4 or 5 got bubbled and killed by a single moros which was able to moonwalk away from the "Escort."
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Sep 13, 2015 15:49
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scandoslav posted:Holesquad tried to send some bombers but managed to not even make it into the hole. 15 jumps turned into 48 after the first hole went kaput. 
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Sep 13, 2015 15:56
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Voyager I posted:Jesus, SMA is the third largest alliance in the game. SMA is alright though. The real tragedy is that RZR and FCON, the two worst alliances in the Imperium, are at the top of the list.
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Sep 13, 2015 18:00
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RhoA posted:15 jumps turned into 48 after the first hole went kaput. Kyle told yall the wrong while the first time 
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Sep 13, 2015 18:33
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Been out of eve for a bit now but thinking of coming back. What's the ship meta like at the moment and how is the new sov system working out?
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Thrasophius posted:Been out of eve for a bit now but thinking of coming back. What's the ship meta like at the moment and how is the new sov system working out? Cruisers are where it's at, though almost everything sub battlecruiser is viable. For smaller groups it's all about kitey ships that won't expose themselves to risk while picking off stragglers. In larger fleets it's t3s or faction battleships. The best way to deal with sov is to ignore it and play somewhere else.
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Thrasophius posted:Been out of eve for a bit now but thinking of coming back. What's the ship meta like at the moment and how is the new sov system working out? Ship meta is small ships, tech 3 destroyers, and cruisers (T1, T2, & T3). Battlesruisers are about to get a buff and might become a decent option again. Battleships are still dead. The new sov system worked out extremely poorly because it made zero-effort attacks way too effective, and the carrots are still in development while the stick is in full effect. Several groups took sov space and then quit out again because it was a lovely treadmill. The only people who enjoyed it were people who didn't own sov. (And to a limited extent us in the imperium because we suffered less than most others.) But fixes are inbound! Trollceptors are finally gonna get axed completely by blocking inties from even being able to fix the entosis link. Sov stuff will "heal" itself so sov-trolling with no force or follow up will be pointless. And pheobe jump fatigue is being scaled back, at first by knocking the fatigue cap down to 5 days. So basically all the stuff we've been saying here for the last 6 months. If I didn't know better I'd think this thread was the new design document.
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Thrasophius posted:Been out of eve for a bit now but thinking of coming back. What's the ship meta like at the moment and how is the new sov system working out? Its mostly cruisers and below, although from what I understand CCP may be trying to make battle cruisers and above viable again. The new sov system is meh at best, its different, but I don't think its that much better than dominion. CCP is slowly rolling out changes to it though, so you never know. But its still boring, so I just do Miniluv.
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Thrasophius posted:Been out of eve for a bit now but thinking of coming back. What's the ship meta like at the moment and how is the new sov system working out? it's poo poo. everything is poo poo. free me of my spreadsheet prison and @toad me forever.
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Zasze posted:Kyle told yall the wrong while the first time Yeah, I hosed up when I trusted hour old info rather than double checking with you. Still, burning to the middle of loving Cobalt Edge would've been rough. How'd the night turn out? I passed out cloaked in a safe.
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KaoliniteMilkshake posted:Yeah, I hosed up when I trusted hour old info rather than double checking with you. Still, burning to the middle of loving Cobalt Edge would've been rough. How'd the night turn out? I passed out cloaked in a safe. We killed a bunch of links/stragglers and popped a 20b isk wreck. All in all a lot of waiting and occasional action. On the way home a circle of two sabre popped my vigil clone 
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Klyith posted:Ship meta is small ships, tech 3 destroyers, and cruisers (T1, T2, & T3). Battlesruisers are about to get a buff and might become a decent option again. Battleships are still dead. Yeh I quit out just before we marched to delve for the last dominion sov war and was tempted to come back what with the new sov mechanic hype but saw the theory crafting of trollceptors and didn't bother. Still it seems like they are at least doing something about it, especially scaling back jump fatigue that poo poo ruined it for me. Helpimscared posted:Its mostly cruisers and below, although from what I understand CCP may be trying to make battle cruisers and above viable again. The new sov system is meh at best, its different, but I don't think its that much better than dominion. CCP is slowly rolling out changes to it though, so you never know. But its still boring, so I just do Miniluv. I'm hoping bigger ships become viable again, as much fun as smaller ship warfare is roaming around just to get a 60 second fight got a bit boring. I want my chunky battleships that can take on a small gang and actually do damage. Is the ishtar still the king ratter, I heard they nerfed it.
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Sep 13, 2015 22:30
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Thrasophius posted:Is the ishtar still the king ratter, I heard they nerfed it. the ishtar nerf was mostly a pvp nerf, it didn't affect the ratting version it is no longer the king though, that title goes to chimeras using tiberizzle's Rat At Jump Cap And In Range Of JU-OWQ fit
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Glory of Arioch posted:the ishtar nerf was mostly a pvp nerf, it didn't affect the ratting version its a goddamn wonderful fit.
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Bitter and terrible vet checking in. ~3 years since I played with any seriousness; is it a good time to come back? (I read the brief section in the op but what are things like day to day?)
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Mezzeh posted:Bitter and terrible vet checking in. ~3 years since I played with any seriousness; is it a good time to come back? (I read the brief section in the op but what are things like day to day?) deklein is a bastion of complete safety, especially if you fly capital ships sov is contested by interceptors, which are immune to bubbles (this is getting fixed next patch)
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Mezzeh posted:Bitter and terrible vet checking in. ~3 years since I played with any seriousness; is it a good time to come back? (I read the brief section in the op but what are things like day to day?) Not too much going on at the moment in null, but if you are interested in wormholes, there is always Whole Squid.
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RhoA posted:15 jumps turned into 48 after the first hole went kaput. *point and laugh*
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