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Poder político cresce do cano de um meme
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Aug 20, 2015 22:13
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i wonder if future military dictatorships will imprison people for using memes. Anyways, it turns out that multiple departments in the Puerto Rican government are now under investigation for sketchy use of federal funds. Dunno if this belongs better in the USPOL thread but I've been posting here so I'll just stay the course. Among the institutions under investigation: the Department of Justice, the Institute of Forensic Science, some districts of the University of Puerto Rico, and the police. I can't say I'm too happy about the Department of Justice's fund being frozen for the moment, because a lot of the programs affected have to do with minimizing crime (ie: cracking down on weapons trade, helping those in legal need, etc.). OTOH, the police in PR, like everywhere else, are corrupt as hell so hopefully we'll see some crooked cop heads roll.* *I'm not keeping my hopes up, though.
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Aug 21, 2015 19:42
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:i wonder if future military dictatorships will imprison people for using memes. They'll at least censor the internet over them.
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Aug 21, 2015 19:47
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:i wonder if future military dictatorships will imprison people for using memes. Cuba imprisons ten for distributing images of known Yanquee imperialist stooge and counter-revolutionary icon "Pepe la rana".
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Aug 21, 2015 21:57
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:OTOH, the police in PR, like everywhere else, are corrupt as hell so hopefully we'll see some crooked cop heads roll.* You need a Puerto Rican Serpico.
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Aug 22, 2015 00:56
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:i wonder if future military dictatorships will imprison people for using memes. Aecio Neves did sue twitter to get the names of users who were spreading memes that alluded to his reputation as a heavy cocaine user.
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Aug 24, 2015 05:59
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Aug 24, 2015 14:53
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At last, I know how to vote for now.
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Aug 24, 2015 15:56
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Goku al gobierno, Peron al poder
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Aug 24, 2015 22:24
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Looks like poo poo hit the fan in Tucuman.
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Aug 25, 2015 03:07
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Yeah it did. And as usual, the government kept their mouths shut about it.
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Aug 25, 2015 08:38
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Brazilian media is so lovely. Yousef''s deposition was the main headline earlier this week on UOL/Folha's webpage when he claimed that Dilma knew of the Petrobras corruption. Then he said Aecio got kickbacks as well, so UOL immediately changed the headline and put the story further down their page. And the the story they had up mentioned Aecio by name in the title, but within a few hours the story's headline changed from naming him specifically to a generic "tucanos" (nickname for PSDB). Likewise, people noticed that somehow one of Globo's political programs forgot to mention that Aecio was cited by name as being involved in the corruption scandal. Someone twitted at one of Globo's main political journalists how ridiculous it was. The response? https://twitter.com/ECantanhede/status/636372089340084228 It was too much information at the same time, and so she didn't have time to mention Aecio, you see. Because when the main leader of the opposition who has been working to impeach Dilma for a while gets involved in the same investigation, that is just some detail that is easy to forget.
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Aug 28, 2015 16:26
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I worked at a big brazilian financial newspaper in its death throes for 5 years, and the common knowledge among the owners/moneyed bigshots was that aecio was a big-time cokehead, an opportunistic empty vessel (think Scott Walker minus the charm), and that his sister and some other guy whose name I forget called all the real shots in the backstage. Not sure how much of it is true, as I only spoke with him once back in the 2006 campaign, and he just seemed bland and slippery in the usual political way.
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Aug 28, 2015 17:04
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Sephyr posted:I worked at a big brazilian financial newspaper in its death throes for 5 years, and the common knowledge among the owners/moneyed bigshots was that aecio was a big-time cokehead, an opportunistic empty vessel (think Scott Walker minus the charm), and that his sister and some other guy whose name I forget called all the real shots in the backstage. 
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Aug 28, 2015 18:00
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Sephyr posted:I worked at a big brazilian financial newspaper in its death throes for 5 years, and the common knowledge among the owners/moneyed bigshots was that aecio was a big-time cokehead, an opportunistic empty vessel (think Scott Walker minus the charm), and that his sister and some other guy whose name I forget called all the real shots in the backstage. Anastasia is the name you are looking for. Some of my closest friends in Brazil worked in the higher levels of the public relations branch of the Minas Gerais state government. The amount of dirt that Aecio was able to hide is amazing. My favorite was the first hand account of a meeting between a high level editor of a Minas Gerais paper and the public safety secretary, where they discussed putting a "guarita" (kind of an outpost) of the military police in front of the editor's house in exchange for favorable coverage on crime.
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Aug 28, 2015 19:00
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Who was the brazilian politician whose helicopter got caught transporting a shitload of cocaine and then newspapers reported it as "wow, can you believe this random helicopter pilot moonlighted as a drug kingpin. amazing"
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Aug 28, 2015 20:26
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SexyBlindfold posted:Who was the brazilian politician whose helicopter got caught transporting a shitload of cocaine and then newspapers reported it as "wow, can you believe this random helicopter pilot moonlighted as a drug kingpin. amazing" Zezé Perrela, who has ties with Aécio. Speaking of the latter, the media also reported jack poo poo when they discovered that he built a private airfield at a family member's farm with public money.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:30
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Zeze Perrela might be one of the most extraordinary cases of corruption ever seen. He started relatively poor, until he was able to buy a meat packing business. It was a small business named Perrela (Perrela is not Zeze''s real name, he just took it up after he bought the business). With the success of his business, he ran and became president of a soccer club, Cruzeiro. Suddenly, he became a millionaire. A journalist for the estado de minas newspaper found out that he was making money as an intermediary on player sales to Europe. The day after the story came out the journalist was fired. Perrela got involved in politics and then recently became a senator. And he became a senator through the shadiest way possible. In Brazil when we elect senators the party picks their replacement in case they leave office. Perrela somehow got to be the replacement for Itamar Franco, former president who ran for senator at 80+ years of age and with cancer. He obviously died a few months after taking office, so Perrela will be senator for nearly 8 years without getting a single vote. Soon before the election it came out that he had underreported his assets in the election campaign. Turns out he had a farm worth 60+ million he didnt declare, and when approached by the media he said that the farm was actually worth far more than 60. Then his helicopter company was busted carrying coke. Nothing happened and no major Minas Gerais newspapers reported on either. He is very close to Aecio, and Aecio is rumored to have orchestrated the firing of that first journalist. But at least it led to some of the greatest bits of political satire ever. If you know Portuguese, you will understand this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YMOKVIgkgk Aecio gets youtube to take this down every once in a while. joepinetree fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Aug 29, 2015 |
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Aug 29, 2015 01:57
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excuse me, but zezé perrela's party is PDT, a leftish labour party, so obvioulsy all that coke found in his chopper was actually given to PT by the FARC to finance the dilma reelection bid. give me a job in Veja, an autographed book by olavo de carvalho and a few hours and i can find a way to insert fidel castro, bolivarianism and the foro of são paulo in that story.
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Aug 29, 2015 15:48
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PDT (much like PPS) is the party that corrupt politicians fled too during the period PSDB was really unpopular. I know you are joking, but to clarify for other people, in Minas PDT has always supported Aecio.
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Aug 29, 2015 15:57
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I interrupt Brazilchat for a quick PR update: hurricanes/tropical storms have started showing up, and because ofthe drought everyone's praying they'll come our way--this is the first time I remember this happening. So far, Tropical Storm (formerly hurricane) Danny gave us fuckall, while TS Erika actually came through for us--one of the two main reservoirs (the Carraízo) has been filled enough that rations tied to that reservoir are being eased; previously, the standard across the island had been one day with water and two days without. Now, those dependent on the Carraízo reservoir are getting water every other day. Unfortunately, the farms and plantations on the south side of the island got their poo poo wrecked pretty bad.
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Aug 29, 2015 18:18
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Surprised that no one has brought up whats going on in Guatemala right now. Yesterday the congress stripped president Molina of his immunity. http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/americas/guatemala-president-immunity-stripped/
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Sep 2, 2015 20:48
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Surprised that no one has brought up whats going on in Guatemala right now. After they overturned Rios Montt's conviction for no reason I'm trying not to get my hopes up.
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Sep 2, 2015 20:50
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Surprised that no one has brought up whats going on in Guatemala right now. They took a vote on getting a similar UN investigation commission set-up in El Salvador and the politicos took one look at what was happening in Guatemala with that and went "Nope no thanks! Don't need that here!
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Sep 3, 2015 00:04
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People at NYT/WSJ/etc. are loving the poo poo out of Brazil's recession. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/11/world/americas/brazils-economic-crisis-intensifies-raising-pressure-on-president.html?ref=americas&_r=0 quote:BRASÍLIA — The president of Brazil should have been ecstatic. She had just won re-election after an intense campaign in which she fiercely defended her role in making Brazil, for a few fleeting years, a rising star on the global stage.
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Sep 11, 2015 15:48
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At this point it seems highly likely that Dilma will be impeached. PSDB is even debating which, if any, ministerial positions they'd like. The best part is the argument used for the impeachment. No, it is not the petrobras scandal. After all, that affects PSDB and PMDB as much (or, in the case of PMDB, more) as anybody. It is the so called "pedaladas fiscais." These are fiscal maneuvers to make national accounts look better than they are: the government delays spending on a budget item for a few weeks until the reporting period is over. It is something that literally every government since the 90s has done. But the house of representatives decided to go ahead and preemptively approve the government accounts from FHC to Lula, but not Dilma. So they will argue that she violated the law because of that. In the mean time, PSDB is already trying its best to make sure Lula's popularity starts to tank ahead of 2018. Globo's magazine, Epoca, had a story about how Lula was lobbying in favor of certain Brazilian companies abroad in order to get them sweetheart deals, and as proof has a series of photographs. The problem is that the photographs were taken in 2012, the deals were finalized in 2011, and Lula left the presidency in 2010. If the situation wasn't absurd enough, there is the Pixuleco. It is a giant balloon in the shape of Lula using a prison outfit. Someone takes it around the country to wherever an event will be broadcast so that it will be on the frame on TV. Then, someone from PT got mad and tore it down. It would have been a slam dunk arrest, but the owners of Pixuleco refused to go to the police over it, since then they'd have to show proof of how much it cost (so as to determine the damage), which would also mean showing who paid for it.
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Sep 14, 2015 16:43
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How does impeachment in Brazil work?
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Sep 14, 2015 16:57
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joepinetree posted:At this point it seems highly likely that Dilma will be impeached. PSDB is even debating which, if any, ministerial positions they'd like. Isn't this something that literally every world leader does though?
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Sep 14, 2015 17:03
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Badger of Basra posted:People at NYT/WSJ/etc. are loving the poo poo out of Brazil's recession. I dunno, just looks like accurate reporting to me, half the article is the party saying they hosed up- hard to spin it any other way. If there's anything the far left and right can agree upon, it's that 'this time is different', and it never is. quote:The scandal, in which contractors paid an estimated $3 billion in bribes to officials, could wipe out the equivalent of 2.5 percent from Brazil’s gross domestic product in 2015, according to GO Associados, a consulting firm in São Paulo that measured job losses at contractors and the scaling back of aggressive expansion plans at Petrobras. Jesus.
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Sep 15, 2015 00:19
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Lawman 0 posted:How does impeachment in Brazil work? first of all, the president needs to commit either a regular crime or a "responsability crime", which means some specific presidential acts that goes against the constitution. Any citizen can present an impeachment complaint to congress. then the congress checks if the complaint fulfills some minimum requirements. If the complaint is considered valid, a special comission is formed to analyse the complaint. the president can formally present her defense in this step. after that the comission releases a final report, that goes to vote on the lower chamber of congress. it needs a 2/3 majority to keep going. If it passes and the crime is a regular crime, the case goes to the supreme court, if it's a responsability crime, it goes to the senate. either way, the president is "suspended" for 6 months, or until the conclusion of the trial. If it goes to the senate, there is a court-like trial, complete with prosecution, defense, witnesses, final statements and stuff, and then a new vote, with again requires a 2/3 majority to pass. if it fails, the president returns to office, if it passes, the president is impeached and the vice-president takes the mantle, unless he was also impeached in the same process. in this case, the president of the lower chamber assumes temporarially, and either theres a new presidential election (if the impeachment happens in the first 2 years of the mandate) or the congress chooses a new president.
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Sep 15, 2015 00:43
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-34275783 Well, at least it happened before September 18.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:30
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 "If you're black an poor you get busted before you get to the beach because you came from the hood" "If you're white and middle class you can commit crimes while the police is looking" The story of these pictures is a ongoing development in Rio, where poor kids were detained and searched without any reason at the entrance of the beach, police justify it as anti-arrastão tactics (arrastão being roving bands of thieving kids attacking the beach en masse, a common phenomenon in the "rich beaches"). Justice bans the practice, and ten days later a anti-arrastão action is organized by young beach residents, who go on and start breaking the overcrowded buses windows where the kids were presumably going home. Here's a newsclip of it, even if you can't read portuguese the pictures speak for themselves
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Sep 23, 2015 18:22
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So these assholes are breaking buses with working people going back home as well. Of all the reasons to break buses, they chose the worst one. In goiania, people are setting fire to buses because the private companies that run them are poo poo, underpay and understaff workers, use old buses, keep raising the fares without any noticeable improvements and now decided they don't have to serve the outer regions of the city, basically making people unable to get to their jobs.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:36
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I was horrified at the bus fare on the southern states for being a lot more expensive than the ones here. Here in Fortaleza the price is 2,40 (after various hikes on the last few years) and its still cheaper than Sao Paulo was in 2010 (and the bus was even shittier than ours).
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Sep 24, 2015 15:55
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Azran posted:Saint Seiya and DBZ are incredibly popular in SA. DBZ is no surprise, but SS never quite hit such a following outside of Japan, except for South America. Saint Seiya was also massively popular in France, that's where the "Zodiac Knights" name come from.
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Sep 26, 2015 12:54
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bagual posted:
While it is probably a bit overrated at this point given how much praise it has received, I think that "the Second Mother" (Que horas ela volta?) contains a pretty good depiction of the sort of class divisions that so many people in Brazil take for granted.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:44
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Is that movie any good? Its just that I can't see Regina Casé as a serious actress at this point.
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Sep 29, 2015 05:36
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It is a little too neat, but Casé is pretty good, and given how uncomfortable it made certain acquaintances in Brazil, i think it is pretty good at portraying an obvious reality that a lot of Brazilians like to ignore.
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I always thought that Regina Casé made a career out of looking "poor, like one of us" while being rich as gently caress. Her current show is a pretty good example of that. Still haven't seen the movie, but let's see if it will change my opinion.
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