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The bridges between struts on Mother Base all feel needlessly long. I bet it actually has something to do with loading but even though Mother Base is barren as hell really, I think it would feel less so if it were actually tightly packed. e: like PW's mother base. 
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Sep 14, 2015 12:10
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I'm also not really sure what kind of narrative purpose the "big twist" serves other than to BE a twist - it doesn't really do anything to recontextualize the rest of the game in any way, the way a good twist ending does, it's just like "oh, huh, that's weird". The big twist falls completely flat given how the game constantly bombards you with not so subtle hints that you're not the real Big Boss from the moment you take control of Snake. It serves zero narrative purpose, it's just the game's way of rewarding you for putting an ungodly amount of hours into it. You're Big Boss too, now go ahead and build your legend!
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Sep 14, 2015 12:32
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jerkstoresup posted:Chico is probably the most tragic, unceremonious death in the entire series. Almost every important character who dies is at the hands of another important character, and makes some grand gesture before they die. No way is he the most unceremonious death. At least he died on-screen. I bet Kojima really regrets killing Kaz off-screen before MGS1 now.
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Sep 14, 2015 12:36
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It serves as big boss turning against his own ideals in using soliders as tools thus completing his journey into the hypocrite he was in metal gear 2.
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Sep 14, 2015 12:37
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I wonder if the post credits conversation between Miller and Ocelot implies that it was the latter that killed the former before MGS1, rather than Liquid, although on Liquid's orders. Also, I like to imagine that Ocelot was watching the second fight with Eli on Mother Base, and when he was tossing molotovs at Snake, Ocelot was thinking, "Nice throw, kid's got a good arm on him."
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Sep 14, 2015 12:58
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So I've finally just finished Truth and listed to the remaining tapes. As I crack into this huge thread, I beg one question that no doubt has been asked -- Solidus, uh, completely forgotten?
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Sep 14, 2015 13:43
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Dr Snofeld posted:I wonder if the post credits conversation between Miller and Ocelot implies that it was the latter that killed the former before MGS1, rather than Liquid, although on Liquid's orders. I like to think that it was Liquid that killed Miller, but Ocelot pushed him into doing so. Just so that in the end they both end up getting killed by the Snake the other trained. You know, I ended up liking how the final scene seemed to be setting up Kaz as something of Ocelot's opposite number. I thought it was pretty neat. In general though I think Kaz is one of the better characters from this game though that might just be because since he basically doesn't exist outside of Peace Walker and Phantom Pain he got to have more of a complete arc.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:00
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In It For The Tank posted:
"Nothing is as it appears". The protagonist isn't Big Boss. Huey isn't a nice guy, but a "nice guy". Skull Face isn't the main antagonist. Zero isn't the evil Mastermind bent on your destruction. Paz isn't alive. What you do isn't a good thing. Only DDog doesn't fit. He's the best at first glance, he's the best throughout the game.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:03
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There's still more to the game, we haven't found everything. There's some way to get that nuke disarmament scene, and when someone asked the community manager about it this was his response:  So I definitely wouldn't stop looking for anything just yet, nor would I judge the game based on what's immediately available for people to play through. Kojima wanted the PT riddles to last for weeks and was upset when they got solved quickly. There's probably some really obtuse things in the game that we haven't found out how to access yet, and we already know at least one of them is an 8 minute long cinema.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:13
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guy in the steam thread:Blattdorf posted:I'm still saying the actual MGS5 is not out yet. But this is getting boring, so I'm gonna toxx myself here. 
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Sep 14, 2015 14:31
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Huh, so TPP just started downloading a 400MB update. Wonder what that's about.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:31
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ThomasPaine posted:Huh, so TPP just started downloading a 400MB update. Wonder what that's about. FOB stuff and stability improvements, going by the patch notes.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:32
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Did they fix the Quiet and blueprint bugs?
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Sep 14, 2015 14:40
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Aurain posted:The bridges between struts on Mother Base all feel needlessly long. The game never says this, but my take on it was that maybe it was more spread out so that it would be harder to destroy if attacked again.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:44
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Snake, increasing the distance between struts makes us less vulnerable to attack and masks loading times.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:46
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MrSmokes posted:The game never says this, but my take on it was that maybe it was more spread out so that it would be harder to destroy if attacked again. This was what I assumed the case was. It makes the base less vulnerable as a whole by keeping sections separate by a good distance.
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Sep 14, 2015 14:54
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Aurain posted:The bridges between struts on Mother Base all feel needlessly long. You know, that reminds me. Where the gently caress is Mother Base's runway these days. Get your poo poo together, Kaz
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Sep 14, 2015 14:57
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Also, I was real salty when I first managed to sneak up to a gunship when it was hovering at ground height and discovered I couldn't Fulton it
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Sep 14, 2015 14:59
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Good Lord Fisher! posted:Also, I was real salty when I first managed to sneak up to a gunship when it was hovering at ground height and discovered I couldn't Fulton it Same, but on the 'extract Huey' side op. Maybe you can NL the pilot?
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Sep 14, 2015 15:00
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a cop posted:The "twist" is hinted at over and over from the very first seconds of the game onward. Character creation, the AI in Huey's lab, Huey, Skullface calling you "Boss", lots of other lines of dialogue ("the troops won't know what big boss looks like so you have to prove it to them), etc. You're supposed to at least greatly suspect it before it's "revealed". I guess it sucks that you didn't get to figure it out on your own but it's not like a huge pivotal spoiler or anything. True. But I've been taking my time with this game and I'd only just got past the Honeybee mission at that point, and so the AI in Huey's lab didn't really register as anything more than a crazy AI from Peace Walker that Huey immediately dismissed, and Skullface talking to me while I was held upside down during a very tense and unexpected encounter didn't strike me as a clue - and so now, when I go back and think about the beginning, I remember thinking "Ishmael sounds like Kiefer Sutherland, wtf." But at least now I'm not salty about Snake not being able to speak Russian, as I thought that it was just really lovely to try to explain it away by a coma and shrapnel. Actually where I am at this point I would at the very least find things to be a bit fishy, and by the end I would be very satisfied with this particular plot point. And I'm staying away from the wiki from now on, because spoilers abound in the most unexpected places. I'll go back there when the game is beaten, and that's quite a long way away. I'm at mission...18? I don't know; the one that is right after you rescue the two intel agents and Traitor's Convoy (1 EMP mine + stealth camouflage makes that mission a joke...but I haven't tried to CQC or Fulton any Skulls yet. I have a suspicion that won't work). And I always hated Huey anyway. Even moreso than Otacon. How they can keep his annoying voice actor for the English version and NOT keep David Hayter is criminal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGOb1TcO-8o KaiserSchnitzel fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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Sep 14, 2015 15:12
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Hearing the steam patch is causing problems like framerate issues and ui bugs so might want to hold off until more info is out.
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Sep 14, 2015 15:25
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Getting rid of hayter is the best thing, dude had lost it in peace walker. There were a few lines in gz that sounded like it was made for hayter to say though "a piece of american pie on communist soil" but keifer owns it in pp
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Sep 14, 2015 15:27
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Huey in TPP is the like the perfect role for Christopher Randolph to play. He may not be the best actor around, but that was the like some perfect merging of an actor and a part- he just sells the assholish, delusional nerd so wonderfully.
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Sep 14, 2015 15:30
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Vikar Jerome posted:Getting rid of hayter is the best thing, dude had lost it in peace walker. There were a few lines in gz that sounded like it was made for hayter to say though "a piece of american pie on communist soil" but keifer owns it in pp Honestly I don't think it would have mattered much either way. Snake has so few lines that I found it hard to care about the actor change.
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Sep 14, 2015 15:34
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Full Battle Rattle posted:There's still more to the game, we haven't found everything. There's some way to get that nuke disarmament scene, and when someone asked the community manager about it this was his response: Konami took down the youtube video of that nuke disarmament scene. So clearly nobody was supposed to see it, either yet or ever. Vikar Jerome posted:Getting rid of hayter is the best thing, dude had lost it in peace walker. There were a few lines in gz that sounded like it was made for hayter to say though "a piece of american pie on communist soil" but keifer owns it in pp I blame the voice direction in Peace Walker more than Hayter himself. He can still do the Snake voice just fine but in Peace Walker it sounds like he was told to act like Old Snake again.
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Sep 14, 2015 15:36
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Konami took down the youtube video of that nuke disarmament scene. So clearly nobody was supposed to see it, either yet or ever. Putting it in the context of that tweet makes it seem more like 'yet'. That's the community manager for MGS and he clearly implies it can be found 'naturally'. This is really pretty obviously not over. I don't think all of the insanity is true, but someone official has stated on record that we haven't reached all the content yet.
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Sep 14, 2015 16:02
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Putting it in the context of that tweet makes it seem more like 'yet'. That's the community manager for MGS and he clearly implies it can be found 'naturally'. If, and I mean if it isn't over, it most likely isn't what you think. There is an in-game Nuke mechanic where you can build your own nukes or disarm others. The video they showed includes player user names in the credits. It is almost certainly a 'bonus' outcome if a lot of nuke disarmament happen. It may even just be a reward for if you personally do a lot of nuke-disarming.
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Sep 14, 2015 16:04
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Same, but on the 'extract Huey' side op. Maybe you can NL the pilot? Allegedly someone managed to extract a helicopter using D-Walker's Fulton Ballista, but it didn't do anything and the helicopter wasn't registered as captured or anything. Other people have tried it and failed so it could just be B.S., the best way to test it is to try it in Mission 21 where the chopper lands on the airport roof for a while.
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Sep 14, 2015 16:18
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ImpAtom posted:If, and I mean if it isn't over, it most likely isn't what you think. I have already beaten the game, I am well aware of the mechanics. The tweet says if 'someone got this scene naturally', which implies it isn't a global event, but something the player does locally. EDIT: I don't think the game ever tasks you with disarming nukes, it's just something you can do. It would be really weird if people just accidentally disarmed every nuclear weapon and out of nowhere Kaz is like 'we finally did it' Full Battle Rattle fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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Sep 14, 2015 16:25
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Kaz: "We've done it Snake. We've disarmed all of the secret nukes. Now we can finally kill the 17th Colossus."
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Sep 14, 2015 16:30
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I don't even remember if I got a scrolling text message for disarming my nuke.
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Sep 14, 2015 16:32
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CJacobs posted:People actually thinking that's intentional does hurt me, yes Kojima is quoted in a strategy guide saying theres no real boss fight with Skull Face to give the player a feeling of something missing.
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Sep 14, 2015 16:57
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Full Battle Rattle posted:The tweet says if 'someone got this scene naturally', which implies it isn't a global event, but something the player does locally. It doesn't and the credits in this case are the only one to show (at least what appears to be) online user names. It being connected to FOB, which are the only things where nukes show up at all, is a lot more sensible.
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Sep 14, 2015 16:59
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Arach posted:So I've finally just finished Truth and listed to the remaining tapes. Sort of, they mention the first two clones being raised naturally but I don't remember any direct references. It sort of makes sense because Solidus is supposed to be hidden at that time afaik.
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Sep 14, 2015 16:59
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I have already beaten the game, I am well aware of the mechanics. The tweet says if 'someone got this scene naturally', which implies it isn't a global event, but something the player does locally. When Kaz introduces nukes, he says you can either create your own nuke to deter attackers or become a hero and disarm other peoples nukes.
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Sep 14, 2015 17:03
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Solidus is generally forgotten about for certain, but he wasn't part of the same batch as David and Eli so it makes enough sense that people who know about David and Eli wouldn't know about Solidus (I guess he's George?)
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Sep 14, 2015 17:05
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Im no fob expert but a bunch of laser gates is a good enough deterrent for my rear end. At least while there are still rubes out there plunking good soldiers down into naked bases. Is there a decent all in one guide for fob or an online manual for this game?
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Sep 14, 2015 17:06
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So is there a point to Quiet's behavior or is she just a weirdo?
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Spikeguy posted:So is there a point to Quiet's behavior or is she just a weirdo? She is infected with a parasite and like the other parasites it can control her behavior. In this case it makes her seek out water and rub it all over herself because
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