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Ocelot's a cool guy because he's around Big Boss-sempai and doesn't have a decades-long scheme he needs to pull off yet.
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Ugh can someone who knows how to wiki wipe out the Allison Road references on the PT page? That poo poo is annoying and those dudes need to get the gently caress out.
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Sep 14, 2015 19:29
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The joke is that he's the exact same sadistic torturer, it's just the first time he isn't trying to sadistically torture you.
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Sep 14, 2015 19:30
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Chippita posted:Something neat I noticed: They used the whole "goes colorblind and can't tell the difference in red and white" right in the hospital scene after Man on Fire ruins the soldiers execution of you. Anytime you take a huge hit and almost die this happens.
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Sep 14, 2015 19:34
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Nakar posted:If you're the defender add D-Mines and Sleep Mines to this loadout and mine the poo poo out of all the approaches to the doors before you head out looking for the invader.
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Sep 14, 2015 19:46
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Chippita posted:The fact snake does have a reflex mode is also very suspect, considering that is literally Gray Fox's shtick if he wants to survive with a sword. DaveKap posted:Whenever I try to use Sleep Mines as a defender, the NPCs running all over the base like to run into them. :/ Nakar fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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Sep 14, 2015 19:57
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Chippita posted:Something neat I noticed: They used the whole "goes colorblind and can't tell the difference in red and white" right in the hospital scene after Man on Fire ruins the soldiers execution of you. I'm almost certain that the N313 is confirmed in a key item description. The game describes reflex as if being looked at by a camera that shoots in high fps. (like a real life slo-mo camera). Interesting if nothing else.
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Sep 14, 2015 20:03
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CJacobs posted:That doesn't mean the scene is taking place right before then though. It also says "Just another day on the battlefield" or whatever so I'm assuming it's just 'sometime after the game's events'. yeah it does because the n313 is after n312 and that was set the day before n313( solid snake) where n312 was when gray fox got captured, which now makes me think big boss sent him in to take out venom but hosed up. edit: we do see n313 written on the tape.
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Sep 14, 2015 20:23
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It'd lend credence to the idea Venom turned on Big Boss or Big Boss abandoned him. He has no reason to actually capture Gray Fox if it's all a ruse.
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Sep 14, 2015 20:24
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Digiwizzard posted:If you play all 5 Metal Gear games consecutively (EXCLuding peace walker and portable ops) and then reset the console twice you will be able to unlock The Good Guy. i just did this and when it reset a peace signed flashed up and said why did you forget best game and a picture of paz in underwear. i think there is more to this.
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Sep 14, 2015 20:29
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Jim Sterling compares Kojima to Michael Bay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy-FhExTY9M
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Sep 14, 2015 20:30
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Ugh can someone who knows how to wiki wipe out the Allison Road references on the PT page? That poo poo is annoying and those dudes need to get the gently caress out. I'm still disappointed that the metal gear wikia lets people post their fanon on there
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Sep 14, 2015 20:40
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Terminally Bored posted:Jim Sterling compares Kojima to Michael Bay: Why do people actually listen to this guy in the year of Big Boss 2015?
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Sep 14, 2015 20:48
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Aurain posted:Why do people actually listen to this guy in the year of Big Boss 2015? The presentation is questionable, but his points are pretty much spot-on.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:00
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pretty sure the "ashamed of your words and deeds" was in relation to why she doesn't talk and not her outfit. kojima doesn't give a gently caress what you think of her outfit or paz's underwear or eva's cleavage pov shots.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:01
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Vikar Jerome posted:pretty sure the "ashamed of your words and deeds" was in relation to why she doesn't talk and not her outfit. kojima doesn't give a gently caress what you think of her outfit or paz's underwear or eva's cleavage pov shots. That's pretty obvious since one of the first things you can do in the game is check out a nurse's cleavage
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Sep 14, 2015 21:06
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Vikar Jerome posted:pretty sure the "ashamed of your words and deeds" was in relation to why she doesn't talk and not her outfit. kojima doesn't give a gently caress what you think of her outfit or paz's underwear or eva's cleavage pov shots. Nah. I mean, he still doesn't care, but he was totally talking about Quiet's rockin' bod. 
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Vikar Jerome posted:pretty sure the "ashamed of your words and deeds" was in relation to why she doesn't talk and not her outfit. kojima doesn't give a gently caress what you think of her outfit or paz's underwear or eva's cleavage pov shots. Although honestly her reasoning for not communicating is kind of poo poo too. I get why she doesn't SPEAK English, but why not write (I know some guards mention that she "might be illiterate" because they already tried it, but at that point she's clearly just refusing to cooperate)? Or speak though a translator via Navajo? After a while it doesn't make a lot of sense that she wouldn't make ANY attempt to communicate with VS with so many options still available. Also why does Snake take down the pictures of her in the ACC after she leaves? She's gone but you can still keep mementos, guy. (actually I think the reason for that is basically a dumb technical one - when she leaves the game seems to revert to the state it was at before she joined - all the UI stuff relating to her is concealed again, like the description of the Butterfly rank, and the photos are probably tied to that) The Cheshire Cat fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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Sep 14, 2015 21:11
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Why does he have pictures of Huey in the ACC?
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Sep 14, 2015 21:15
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Broseph Brostar posted:Why does he have pictures of Huey in the ACC? He is okay with Huey until later. He takes down the Huey pictures after his exile.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:16
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It sucks that he takes down the pictures of Quiet though. I know V's a cold guy and all of that, but Quiet was cool and she looks like Quiet.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:18
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I still have pictures of Huey (and Eli) in my ACC, having completed the game. I think the guy above was right that Quiet is removed because the game pretends you never recruited her, whereas Huey and Eli cannot be skipped and so remain in the ACC.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:19
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In It For The Tank posted:I still have pictures of Huey (and Eli) in my ACC, having completed the game. I think the guy above was right that Quiet is removed because the game pretends you never recruited her, whereas Huey and Eli cannot be skipped and so remain in the ACC. Huey is gone from mine. That's weird.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:20
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Terminally Bored posted:Jim Sterling compares Kojima to Michael Bay: In the sense that neither of them know what the gently caress to do with a camera? Edit: "the downright creepy, awkward, narratively inappropriate poo poo you get in every Quantic Dream farce" could describe everything in those games, not just the sex scenes. And I loving loved Fahrenheit. Strom Cuzewon fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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Sep 14, 2015 21:21
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Crappy Jack posted:Nah. I mean, he still doesn't care, but he was totally talking about Quiet's rockin' bod. oh. well then.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:30
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I felt ashamed of my words and deeds when I let the naked girl who wanted to bang Venom go away and die alone, in agony and wishing she could have told Venom she wanted to bang him in person.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:32
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Aurain posted:It sucks that he takes down the pictures of Quiet though. I know V's a cold guy and all of that, but Quiet was cool and she looks like Quiet. his pretty much wife left him man, his heart aches
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Sep 14, 2015 21:33
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Sterling is an rear end in a top hat but he's right - Quiet could be a great character but she's fanservice personified instead. Same goes with B&B unit in 4, even with Drebin's monologues.Strom Cuzewon posted:In the sense that neither of them know what the gently caress to do with a camera? Fahrenheit had legit one of the worst stories in gaming. Like the absolutely worst, disjointed, unfinished story with terrible dialogue and twists so stupid it melted brains. It's a loving miracle David Cage can still get any kind of budget to make games because he's terrible at making them. Both in terms of gameplay and story.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:35
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I'll never lose quiet..she will stay with me forever.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:37
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Terminally Bored posted:Sterling is an rear end in a top hat but he's right - Quiet could be a great character but she's fanservice personified instead. Same goes with B&B unit in 4, even with Drebin's monologues. The thing that bugged me about them in 4 is that you get Drebin's monologues AFTER fighting them. It's like, wouldn't it have worked way better to get their tragic backstory BEFORE the fight, so the fight itself feels really conflicted and has some narrative weight rather than "Here's a boss fight. Now here's the story of their horrible life, moments after you just killed them!" I think the thing about Kojima is he's a good director but a terrible writer. He knows how to create good moments but doesn't really know how to tie them together or how to write dialog that sounds like it's being spoken by a human being rather than an exposition machine.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:The thing that bugged me about them in 4 is that you get Drebin's monologues AFTER fighting them. It's like, wouldn't it have worked way better to get their tragic backstory BEFORE the fight, so the fight itself feels really conflicted and has some narrative weight rather than "Here's a boss fight. Now here's the story of their horrible life, moments after you just killed them!" No different from every other mgs
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Sep 14, 2015 21:39
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a cop posted:I'll never lose quiet..she will stay with me forever. same
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Sep 14, 2015 21:40
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lets hang out posted:No different from every other mgs 3? Both Eva and The Boss were well written.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:40
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the weird pervy stuff with quiet (like most of that stuff in the series) is 100% player controlled. the first time you see her up close she is fully clothed wanting to kill you. the 2nd time you dont get a good look because shes sniping you and the only time you get to see her like that is when you are making the decision to kill this assassin who might be working for cipher who has tried to kill you twice now or bring her back to motherbase because... why? information from someone called quiet, who you were told about who doesn't speak by ocelot a few missions/sideops ago, the outfit is designed for the male gaze of bringing the attractive skimpily clothed woman to the sausage fest known as motherbase. only then does the all the pervy stuff start. are you ashamed of your words and deeds? maybe you should have shot her back then to save yourself from the phantom pain of her leaving permanently.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:41
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Was there any conclusion on what those weird vertical line lens flare things are? I remember reading about theories involving DNA and poo poo back when GZ was new, but nothing was explained in the game. I guess Kojima just thought it looked cool?
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Sep 14, 2015 21:41
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Vikar Jerome posted:the weird pervy stuff with quiet (like most of that stuff in the series) is 100% player controlled. No, the camera is all up on that poo poo when you knock her out and throw her on the chopper. Likewise the "Quiet strips in the rain" scene is pretty goddamn oogling without any player interaction.
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ImpAtom posted:No, the camera is all up on that poo poo when you knock her out and throw her on the chopper. Likewise the "Quiet strips in the rain" scene is pretty goddamn oogling without any player interaction. yes. all after the 100% player controlled decision to kill her or bring her back.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:42
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a cop posted:I'll never lose quiet..she will stay with me forever. I won't scatter your tits to the heartless sand... I will always be with you. *rubs bra on face*
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Vikar Jerome posted:yes. all after the 100% player controlled decision to kill her or bring her back. So? That has nothing to do with it. Even if the player isn't aware Quiet is a recruitable character from the heavy advertising the game itself still encourages you to nonlethally fight and recruit every single person you can. You can do it to the Man on Fire if you want, though it fails with him. Trying to go "Well, it is the player's fault it is pervy because they chose to non-lethally recruit her" is dumb. Choosing to recruit a character has nothing to do with oogling their tits.
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Vikar Jerome posted:yes. all after the 100% player controlled decision to kill her or bring her back. Nice post/avtext combo.
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