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UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

mea culpa
So does your love for the film output of 1999 have a lot to do with you supposedly watching about 200 loving hours of it, because I feel like past a point it's sheer psychological effort justification, and that point is somewhere far in your rear view by the time you are citing Teaching Mrs. Tingle.

By the way, Rushmore and Thin Red Line are great, distinctive films on your list, both of which belong to the proud Year of our Lord 1998.

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Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

marblize posted:

American Beauty is something.
loving great is what it is. I can't believe I hadn't seen it until this year (I am not a smart man).

Boondock Saints helped launch the careers of two pretty good TV actors and also made a huge number of insufferable fans of vigilante murder.

The sequel was amazingly terribly.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

GimpChimp posted:

So does your love for the film output of 1999 have a lot to do with you supposedly watching about 200 loving hours of it, because I feel like past a point it's sheer psychological effort justification, and that point is somewhere far in your rear view by the time you are citing Teaching Mrs. Tingle.

By the way, Rushmore and Thin Red Line are great, distinctive films on your list, both of which belong to the proud Year of our Lord 1998.

I left a really embarrassing movie or two off that alphabetical list. Almost put Crazy in Alabama on it. Also I've seen a lot of movies, and I bet you have too.

marblize
Sep 6, 2015

Snak posted:

loving great is what it is. I can't believe I hadn't seen it until this year (I am not a smart man).

I had an idiot screenwriting professor beat into my idiot film school freshman head that its having a dead person narrate the film was an unforgivable offense, I've been needing a rewatch.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Sorry cheerfullydrab, but only one film from 1999 is on AFI's 2007 list of the 100 greatest films, so it was kind of a mediocre year overall. On the other hand, the years 1969, 1976, and 1982 have four entries each, so they're objectively the greatest years in American film history™.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
I put off watching it for a long time because I thought I knew things about it. It was totally different film then I expected.

Like any "rule" about story telling, there are always exceptions which involve "being a good storyteller".

I do not, for example, want to see Troy Duffy's attempt at breaking the rule you mentioned.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

I wonder how mad that teacher was when he saw Sunset Boulevard.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I will always remember Teaching Ms. Tingle because Jeffrey Tambor went on the Loveline tv show to promote it and angrily talked about how the movie had been retitled because of the Columbine shooting, and it had just happened and people were all messed up about it, but he was just pissed it wasn't called Killing Ms. Tingle any more.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Samuel Clemens posted:

Sorry cheerfullydrab, but only one film from 1999 is on AFI's 2007 list of the 100 greatest films, so it was kind of a mediocre year overall. On the other hand, the years 1969, 1976, and 1982 have four entries each, so they're objectively the greatest years in American film history™.

This sounds like last year when Philadelphia's indie music station, 88.5 WXPN put out a list of the 885 greatest songs of all time as voted on by their white, upper or middle class, older listener base. The first time a song from the last 10 years appeared was like #40.

UNRULY_HOUSEGUEST
Jul 19, 2006

mea culpa

cheerfullydrab posted:

I left a really embarrassing movie or two off that alphabetical list. Almost put Crazy in Alabama on it. Also I've seen a lot of movies, and I bet you have too.

I have, but if there was a year Hollywood put out five dozen films worth putting the rest of cinematic history on hold for, it sure as poo poo was not 1999, so why not try for a more focused argument. You're already aware you're naming a lot of profoundly uncared-for films, although I am happy Topsy Turvy and The Virgin Suicides finally showed up.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

GimpChimp posted:

I have, but if there was a year Hollywood put out five dozen films worth putting the rest of cinematic history on hold for, it sure as poo poo was not 1999, so why not try for a more focused argument. You're already aware you're naming a lot of profoundly uncared-for films, although I am happy Topsy Turvy and The Virgin Suicides finally showed up.

Which year was it, then? And which 60 movies from that year? I'm honestly interested in hearing other people's opinions. It's a good way to find good movies to watch.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

I Before E posted:

I wonder how mad that teacher was when he saw Sunset Boulevard.

Made me think of American History X.

trip9
Feb 15, 2011

So this is kind of a meta question, but is there an index of all the scene by scene watch-throughs on here? I see the Blade one and know that there was an American Psycho one at some point, but I'm curious if I'm missing any others.

marblize
Sep 6, 2015

Snak posted:

I put off watching it for a long time because I thought I knew things about it. It was totally different film then I expected.

Like any "rule" about story telling, there are always exceptions which involve "being a good storyteller".

I do not, for example, want to see Troy Duffy's attempt at breaking the rule you mentioned.

yeah this is why i highlighted/admitted the idiocy. It wasn't even like he just hit on American Beauty as one instance of a few movies breaking this "rule." it was AB that he specifically chose to use to nail this point after a fellow classmate named it as their favorite movie. He also categorically trashed Gump as conservative propaganda when another student named that, to bring the recent CineD discussions vs. my former professor full circle or something ^___^

I do still need to see it again to form an opinion on whether it's actually necessary/adds things but that's a discussion for a few pages ago.



Also, I feel guilty about and that I should atone for a truly egregious error I sneakily edited out of my list. I initially wrote that Paul Thomas Anderson was Kubrick's emergency backup director on Eyes Wide Shut, but I mixed up my near-death directors and was thinking of Altman on A Prairie Home Companion, lol :(

marblize fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Sep 14, 2015

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Well at least you didn't put Paul W.S. Anderson.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
This is a little different than talking about year of release, but I remember not being able to watch anything for a while then driving to Houston and my choices being Goodfellas, White Hunter, Black Heart (Eastwood directing a non-genre drama was a novelty at the time), Kurosawa's Dreams, that film the brand-new NC-17 rating had been created for Henry & June (Fred Ward is cool, but who the gently caress is Uma Thurman?), and Miller's Crossing (that new movie by those brothers who did Blood Simple (1984) and Raising Arizona (1987)).

I wouldn't argue that 1990 was a particularly magic year for film (I don't think any year ever is) but that's a lot of really solid cinema in original theatrical release at the same moment.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Last year is probably my favorite movie year, it was the first I really committed to catching as much as I could. It's kind of amazing the stuff you find when you're hunting for it and not just letting it fall in your lap.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
2000 featured the American premieres of both Pokémon 2000 (which is strangely in my phone's autocorrect, including the accent) and Digimon:The Movie, so clearly that's the high water mark for cinema.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

trip9 posted:

So this is kind of a meta question, but is there an index of all the scene by scene watch-throughs on here? I see the Blade one and know that there was an American Psycho one at some point, but I'm curious if I'm missing any others.
I did one for Lucky Number Slevin a while ago although I think you need archive access or whatever to see it. There's this Transformers one. I'm 99% sure there are more but I can't remember them right now.

sponges
Sep 15, 2011

Snak posted:

loving great is what it is. I can't believe I hadn't seen it until this year (I am not a smart man).

Boondock Saints helped launch the careers of two pretty good TV actors and also made a huge number of insufferable fans of vigilante murder.

The sequel was amazingly terribly.

Boondock Saints 2 is one of the worst movies I've ever seen

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

1964.

Dr. Strangelove
Goldfinger
A Hard Day's Night
A Fistful of Dollars
A Shot in the Dark
Fail-Safe
The Gospel According to Matthew
Mary Poppins
Nothing But a Man
My Fair Lady
Becket
Zorba the Greek
Hamlet (Kozintsev)
The Comedy of Terrors
Marnie
Charulata
I Am Cuba
The Masque of the Red Death
The Pawnbroker
The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
Zulu
Diary of a Chambermaid (Bunuel)
Une femme mariée
Red Desert
The Soft Skin
Kwaidan
Onibaba
Woman in the Dunes
El Padrecíto

This is just from a quick Wikipedia check.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Snak posted:

Well at least you didn't put Paul W.S. Anderson.

I unironically love PWS Anderson, and not just for Event Horizon. I think Mortal Kombat is great, way more fun than it has any right to be, and Death Race is an underappreciated member of the new action canon that features so much more talent than anyone could imagine being in a movie titled "Death Race"

That he made the Resident Evil movies, which are of widely-varying quality, between all of this is just icing.

Oh, and he also made the almost-perfect Soldier with Kurt Russell

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Sep 15, 2015

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

Everblight posted:

I unironically love PWS Anderson, and not just for Event Horizon. I think Mortal Kombat is great, way more fun than it has any right to be, and Death Race is an underappreciated member of the new action canon that features so much more talent than anyone could imagine being in a movie titled "Death Race"

That he made the Resident Evil movies, which are of widely-varying quality, between all of this is just icing.

Oh, and he also made the almost-perfect Soldier with Kurt Russell

Mortal Kombat, Event Horizen and Soldier are great. Unironically. If you haven't, watch Soldier with the commentary.

I think that PWS Anderson was great when he had limits, and when he just started getting money handed to him and cgi became cheap, it was just downhill from there.

I think Death Race is garbage though.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Best year for films was 1904:
Blackpool Victoria Pier
The Bold Bank Robbery
Behind the Scene
Buy Your Own Cherries
Chased by Dogs
Tchin-Chao the Chinese Conjurer
Clowns
The Cook In Trouble
A Fire In A Burlesque Theatre
Girls Taking Time Checks
Burlesque Girls Taking Time Checks
The Impossible Voyage
The Marvelous Living Fan,
Opening Of The Drill Hall In Accrington
Princess Rajah Dance
Princess Rajah Burlesque Dance
The Brave Burlesque Burglary
Troubles Of A Manager Of A Burlesque Show

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



That's a lot of burlesque.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

That's a lot of burlesque.
The first decade of the Twentieth Century was a big decade for pornographic film. I don't know if FreudianSlippers intentionally chose 1904 for this reason, but it's generally accepted that the first multi-reel pornographic films date from this year (all, alas, now lost).

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

I may have added a few extra burlesque films but there was definitely a lot of burlesque back in the day.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

FreudianSlippers posted:

I may have added a few extra burlesque films but there was definitely a lot of burlesque back in the day.

How far we've come

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     
nm

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Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Does anyone know where I can watch the unedited cut of Bad Lieutenant online? It seems like every VOD only has the R-rated version

lizardman
Jun 30, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Skwirl posted:

2000 featured the American premieres of both Pokémon 2000 (which is strangely in my phone's autocorrect, including the accent) and Digimon:The Movie, so clearly that's the high water mark for cinema.

Well, at the very, very least Pokémon 2000 is at least easily the best of the Pokémon movies theatrically released in America, so there's that.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

SubG posted:

The first decade of the Twentieth Century was a big decade for pornographic film. I don't know if FreudianSlippers intentionally chose 1904 for this reason, but it's generally accepted that the first multi-reel pornographic films date from this year (all, alas, now lost).

Isn't there a good article from the last few years about how the movies from that decade were just as dirty as today's pornography?

THE JORY
Jul 28, 2012

Anyone know any other movies like Beyond The Black Rainbow, Under The Skin, Valhalla Rising? -slow, ambient, I guess "artsy", great visuals/audio
(is this the right thread for this kinda thing?)

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
Well Upstream Color might fit into that category, and it's a pretty powerful movie.

THE JORY
Jul 28, 2012

Cool thanks, I'll check it out! Think I remember seeing something about that when people were asking for movies like Ex Machina so I bet I'll love it.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Since you've seen Valhalla Rising, I'm guessing you're familiar with Only God Forgives, but if not: Only God Forgives. And Upstream Color is a great suggestion.

Blind Azathoth
Jul 28, 2006
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THE JORY posted:

Anyone know any other movies like Beyond The Black Rainbow, Under The Skin, Valhalla Rising? -slow, ambient, I guess "artsy", great visuals/audio
(is this the right thread for this kinda thing?)

Check out Peter Strickland's films Berberian Sound Studio and The Duke of Burgundy.

karneisada
Jun 6, 2013
I've been watching a lot of ridiculous b-grade male power fantasy action movies and I realized I don't know if I've ever seen a female power fantasy movie. Maybe I have but I just don't know the frame of reference or something. Any suggestions on female power fantasy movies?

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer

karneisada posted:

I've been watching a lot of ridiculous b-grade male power fantasy action movies and I realized I don't know if I've ever seen a female power fantasy movie. Maybe I have but I just don't know the frame of reference or something. Any suggestions on female power fantasy movies?

The problem is that most would-be female power fantasy movies are made by men and end up... questionable at best. See: Sucker Punch.

The closest thing I can think of off the top of my head is Haywire, which is a macho martial arts film where the main character happens to be Gina Carano. I expect we will get some sweet female power fantasy action movies out of Ronda Rousey's career as well.

As for non-action female-power fantasies... hmm. I'm not sure. All of the good "strong female protagonist" films I can think of are about overcoming adversity. Basically none of them are about being awesome in the way that male power fantasies are.

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Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


trip9 posted:

So this is kind of a meta question, but is there an index of all the scene by scene watch-throughs on here? I see the Blade one and know that there was an American Psycho one at some point, but I'm curious if I'm missing any others.

The thread comparing Sleuth (1972, Laurence Olivier and Michael Caine) against Sleuth (2007, Jude Law and Michael Caine) was amazing, but I'm not sure if it ever finished the final act of either.

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