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So if you had strong anti-Zionist feelings (but are NOT an anti-Semite!) and wanted to use visual shorthand to depict Israel in, for example, a cartoon
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:SB 350, Fresno Edition There's a California Über Alles parody to be made here, isn't there?
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Sep 15, 2015 08:12
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Skellybones posted:So if you had strong anti-Zionist feelings (but are NOT an anti-Semite!) and wanted to use visual shorthand to depict Israel in, for example, a cartoon The flag of Israel, not the Magen David. I understand that the flag has it on it, but it's the use of the symbol by itself.
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Sep 15, 2015 08:32
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Regalingualius posted:There's a California Über Alles parody to be made here, isn't there? ... you've never actually listened to California Uber Alles, have you?
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Sep 15, 2015 08:39
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homerlaw posted:Absolutely, they are all devout anti-Zionists who view Israel as an affront to human dignity & Jewish history. It's in the flag, though. Did Kung Fuhrer travel ahead in time and force them to put it there? efb by the poster himself. Some people are offended by anything, though. Here's a mix of stinkers and zingers from Steve Sack: (apparently, Obama is now The Joker from The Animated Series)  1 2 3 4 5 6 7
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Sep 15, 2015 09:58
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making sure that there are survivors.
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Sep 15, 2015 10:32
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Fox Ironic posted:If you used the emblem on the Iranian flag to symbloize Iranian aggression, it would be bigoted against Muslims in general (it's a Shia religious symbol). Not really? It uses religious symbolism but it was created specifically to represent Iran, and its designer is still around these days. Likewise, the Union Jack is made of three different crosses (of St. Andrew, St. George, and St. Patrick), but not many people would consider it a religious symbol.
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Sep 15, 2015 10:50
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Rorus Raz posted:
I love it. The conspirators took all this extra time and risk of discovery to carefully wire up building 7 for demolition and gave it all away by forgetting to fly a plane into it. Why was demolishing building 7 necessary again? What did they get out of it that they didn't get from destroying the twin towers alone?
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Splode posted:The three big roles are prime minister, deputy prime minister (still Scary glare lady Julie Bishop), and treasurer. Joe Hockey and Tones have stuck together the whole time, so now Abbott is gone Hockey will be relegated to "the back bench" forever (basically just an MP, no longer a minister for anything). There's a chance Tony and/or Hockey will resign rather than hang around sadly in parliament for the rest of time, but who knows. Regardless of which, Hockey won't be doing anything that warrants being put in a cartoon anymore. The three big roles they are talking about are Leader of the Opposition, Shadow Chancellor and Shadow Home Secretary. And Shadow Foreign Secretary as well really. Deputy Prime Minister isn't even a thing, it was invented for Prescott and then for Clegg, it has no actual power and isn't an office in the Shadow Cabinet.
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Sep 15, 2015 11:16
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That is a terrific caricature! ...what the hell kind of bus has seats that close to the windshield, apparently right next to the front door?? The way this is arranged, Rosa Parks is also preventing anyone else from boarding the bus, by sitting where she is. Again, both caricatures are good, but Rosa Parks not being instantly recognizable without a label, to most people, is one of the reasons Davis' horrible "Rosa Parks" comparison was difficult (if not impossible) to build a good cartoon around.
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Sep 15, 2015 11:16
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Taear posted:The three big roles they are talking about are Leader of the Opposition, Shadow Chancellor and Shadow Home Secretary. And Shadow Foreign Secretary as well really. Huh? What does British politics have to do with this?
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Sep 15, 2015 11:21
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We're the mother of all parliaments doncha know, and when we come up with a pointless bauble to give to a bigwig, news travels.
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Sep 15, 2015 11:24
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VitalSigns posted:I love it. The conspirators took all this extra time and risk of discovery to carefully wire up building 7 for demolition and gave it all away by forgetting to fly a plane into it. According to some conspiracies I've read, demolishing 7 was the whole point and the Twin Towers being taken out was a misdirection. Building 7, you see, had CIA offices in them, and all the records within them destroyed with the hit, so there must have been some massive data they were trying to eradicate in a huge cover-up. It also had SEC offices in them, and a bunch of anti-Wall Sreet cases suddenly were dropped or delayed when the evidence stored in Building 7 went up in smoke.
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Sep 15, 2015 11:39
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I like this. This is good.
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Sep 15, 2015 11:46
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Fuckin' love that vulture in the lower left. Havin' a good time with Mr. Cheney!
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Sep 15, 2015 11:54
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nerd plus rage posted:
He's just so happy to finally earn it.
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Sep 15, 2015 11:59
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Eschers Basement posted:According to some conspiracies I've read, demolishing 7 was the whole point and the Twin Towers being taken out was a misdirection. Building 7, you see, had CIA offices in them, and all the records within them destroyed with the hit, so there must have been some massive data they were trying to eradicate in a huge cover-up. It also had SEC offices in them, and a bunch of anti-Wall Sreet cases suddenly were dropped or delayed when the evidence stored in Building 7 went up in smoke. IIRC there was also a huge stash of gold in a vault in WTC7's basement and the demolition was part of a plan to steal it.
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Sep 15, 2015 12:06
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nerd plus rage posted:
Ditto gradenko_2000 posted:IIRC there was also a huge stash of gold in a vault in WTC7's basement and the demolition was part of a plan to steal it. Sept. 12, 2001. A parking garage in New Jersey. Three separate vehicles, including a box van painted like a New York metropolitan ambulance, arrive at slightly staggered times. Danny Ocean, Rusty Ryan and Osama bin Laden are meeting to split the cash. Another heist expertly pulled off, and America is none the wiser.
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Sep 15, 2015 12:24
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Just since it's being discussed again, part of the reason the Illuminati or NWO council of 13 or whatever communicate their intentions is because it's supposedly a form of mass brainwashing. Subliminal messages reminding of traumatic events pots the public in a quiescent susceptible state. Monarch mind control is a big hallmark of a lot of conspiracy theorists who see patterns in pop culture stuff. It's so much of a joke that a bunch of things in the venture brothers are all obvious references to it.
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Sep 15, 2015 12:31
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Political Whores posted:Just since it's being discussed again, part of the reason the Illuminati or NWO council of 13 or whatever communicate their intentions is because it's supposedly a form of mass brainwashing. Subliminal messages reminding of traumatic events pots the public in a quiescent susceptible state. Monarch mind control is a big hallmark of a lot of conspiracy theorists who see patterns in pop culture stuff. It's so much of a joke that a bunch of things in the venture brothers are all obvious references to it. Don't forget the effectiveness of hiding in plain sight. Read the Illuminatus! trilogy to learn what's really going on. 
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Sep 15, 2015 12:36
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cram me sideways posted:Fuckin' love that vulture in the lower left. Havin' a good time with Mr. Cheney!  Cheney & Pals
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Sep 15, 2015 12:40
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London 1979: A graphic artist is hard at work designing a cover for Supertramp's latest album, suddenly, intimidating men in black suits appear in his studio. One of them takes a look at the work in progress, he turns to the artist and says "make it so the U and P in 'Supertramp' align with the top of the Twin Towers..." "but why?" "You'll find out in about 20 years..."
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Sep 15, 2015 12:44
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nerd plus rage posted:
I swear there was a version that Bennet or someone else where the award was behind a mostly dusted case that had been wiped. I could be imagining things though.
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Sep 15, 2015 12:47
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homerlaw posted:The flag of Israel, not the Magen David. I've said this before -- it'd be like trying to criticize, say, Finland by using a giant cross in all your imagery, or (as someone else said) criticizing Turkey using a star and crescent. The cartoon would not be saying what you were trying to make it say. However this was in a discussion about Carlos Latuff so nobody really paid any attention to it 
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Sep 15, 2015 12:57
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Sep 15, 2015 13:38
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The Maggie bust isn't a shrine of skulls. Get with it, Carlos
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Sep 15, 2015 13:41
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homerlaw posted:The flag of Israel, not the Magen David. It's almost as if Israel's use of that symbology were intended to conflate all of Judaism with its national policies and so give them yet another way to blunt criticism with accusations of anti-semitism.
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Sep 15, 2015 13:41
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loquacius posted:I've said this before -- it'd be like trying to criticize, say, Finland by using a giant cross in all your imagery, or (as someone else said) criticizing Turkey using a star and crescent. The cartoon would not be saying what you were trying to make it say. However this was in a discussion about Carlos Latuff so nobody really paid any attention to it Makes sense, when you think about all those other countries that also use the star of david on their flag.
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Sep 15, 2015 13:50
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gradenko_2000 posted:IIRC there was also a huge stash of gold in a vault in WTC7's basement and the demolition was part of a plan to steal it. Man that's pretty genius, I would have probably just gone in and pushed a piece of paper through to the teller saying,"Gimme the cash I gotta gun." You see the trick is I don't really have a gun, so it's not REALLY armed robbery - in fact, maybe I was being colloquial and saying give me my own money, as I'm in a hurry. Check and mate, justice system 
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Sep 15, 2015 14:00
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Saint Sputnik posted:Makes sense, when you think about all those other countries that also use the star of david on their flag. It's like when you want to criticize ethiopia but then get accused of being anti-satanist.
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Sep 15, 2015 14:01
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Huh? What does British politics have to do with this? confusion between the big fuss being kicked up about jeremy corbyn and our own australian political occurrences i'd guess
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Sep 15, 2015 14:05
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VitalSigns posted:I love it. The conspirators took all this extra time and risk of discovery to carefully wire up building 7 for demolition and gave it all away by forgetting to fly a plane into it. Lord Hydronium fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Sep 15, 2015 |
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Sep 15, 2015 14:06
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It's just that there's no metaphor there. If the line were "we'll let the velociraptors have razor sharp claws" there would be a metaphor. This is just one thing talking about another thing with no real logical thread connecting them. It's like if every time you saw something physically big, no matter that it might be, you thought "hah like the national debt is numerically."
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Sep 15, 2015 14:08
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Lord Hydronium posted:The Secret Jew Gold idea has already been mentioned, but my favorite is that WTC7 had the plans for 9/11 itself. Because they just didn't feel like buying a shredder, I guess. see they ran out of paper so they started writing it out on the walls, and this was before they invented mr clean magic erasers 
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Sep 15, 2015 14:08
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betaraywil posted:It's just that there's no metaphor there. If the line were "we'll let the velociraptors have razor sharp claws" there would be a metaphor. This is just one thing talking about another thing with no real logical thread connecting them. yeah but the velociraptors needed to have razor sharp claws to compete in the ecosystem, and then the metaphor would have actually accurately described the reasons for Iran wanting nukes rather than the twisted hyperbole that ramirez was going for
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Sep 15, 2015 14:10
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gradenko_2000 posted:IIRC there was also a huge stash of gold in a vault in WTC7's basement and the demolition was part of a plan to steal it. Why do these guys never let their enemies have a fuckup? Why can't they slip up and make a mistake? You know, one that isn't retroactively hiding what they were planning in decades-early pop culture kitsch?
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Lord Hydronium posted:The Secret Jew Gold idea has already been mentioned, but my favorite is that WTC7 had the plans for 9/11 itself. Because they just didn't feel like buying a shredder, I guess. Man that has got to be one of the stupidest conspiracy theories I've ever heard in my life. A split second of thinking about it should bring up a whole bunch of reasons that would be a terrible idea. So naturally it's true, I'm completely convinced now.
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gradenko_2000 posted:IIRC there was also a huge stash of gold in a vault in WTC7's basement and the demolition was part of a plan to steal it. Sounds like the plot of Die Hard (WTC) 7.
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