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Crazyeyes posted:Also presumably the life of a free wheeling pirate is not exactly high on discipline Unless it's alcohol consumption by minors, then it's taken seriously:  I was also thinking what amazing things have to happen in one's life to become the man Senor Pink is today. Let's Baby. Anyone else notice that Law's sword is just a smaller version of his regular one?  Where did he get that? Also, apparently I read that his sword is cursed? Apparently. I feel like the sword curses in One Piece would be much cooler if they got more than absolutely zero attention at all. I think Zoro's sword is only the level 2 sword of that family of cursed swords; there's still the more powerful version of his out there somewhere (and the less powerful one as well).  I think it was only a few days ago I was joking with someone that Law would also have a D in his name somehow; it's almost spooky. Oda seems pretty determined that anyone important must have a D in their name. What's with the "Water" part though? If we flashback far enough, maybe we'll see some of the missing era.
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Shadow0 posted:
It's a Japanese pun. His name is Trafalgar D Waterloo
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Jul 25, 2015 23:06
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Prison Warden posted:It's a Japanese pun. His name is Trafalgar D Waterloo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trafalgar Oh, well, now everything makes a lot more sense. ロー "d[-.- posted:b" post="448196117"] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_One_Piece_episodes No, apparently not until next week. Maybe they are celebrating Ocean Day? Seems relevant to One Piece though, they should have made a special instead.
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OK, question for anime watchers. I've been reading the manga (just got past the Enies Lobby arc, which lived up to the hype), and I was wondering how some of this stuff adapted to animation. While some characters look easy (Luffy's basically made to be animated - stretch-and-bounce is literally his superpower), others have powers or fighting styles that seem like they'd be a bitch to animate as anything other than still panels. I'm particularly thinking of Zoro here, whose cool-in-theory-but-cumbersome-in-practice style is irritatingly static even in manga form. Oda seems to be improving, particularly with the Kaku fight, but so much of what he does, particularly when it's time to finish a fight, seems to be 'go into the exact same three-sword pose, charge'. With that in mind, what would you say are the best-looking fights in the One Piece anime? What really stand out in animation, choreography, spectacle, and general technical competence? Movies are completely allowable here - I just want to know what the franchise's many, many animators have managed to do with the material they're given.
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Darth Walrus posted:OK, question for anime watchers. I've been reading the manga (just got past the Enies Lobby arc, which lived up to the hype), and I was wondering how some of this stuff adapted to animation. While some characters look easy (Luffy's basically made to be animated - stretch-and-bounce is literally his superpower), others have powers or fighting styles that seem like they'd be a bitch to animate as anything other than still panels. I'm particularly thinking of Zoro here, whose cool-in-theory-but-cumbersome-in-practice style is irritatingly static even in manga form. Oda seems to be improving, particularly with the Kaku fight, but so much of what he does, particularly when it's time to finish a fight, seems to be 'go into the exact same three-sword pose, charge'. After the timeskip a lot of their techniques are expanded/altered dramatically so the animation will be different as well. The movies, simply because they have higher production values and budget, lend themselves nicely to better effects and such. Case in point: The first fight with Shiki v Strawhats in Strong World. Very cool effects (althoguh his power at its base level is pretty obviously a breeze to depict. I thought some of the sequences in the Marineford and Impel Down arcs were pretty cool as well.
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Darth Walrus posted:OK, question for anime watchers. I've been reading the manga (just got past the Enies Lobby arc, which lived up to the hype), and I was wondering how some of this stuff adapted to animation. While some characters look easy (Luffy's basically made to be animated - stretch-and-bounce is literally his superpower), others have powers or fighting styles that seem like they'd be a bitch to animate as anything other than still panels. I'm particularly thinking of Zoro here, whose cool-in-theory-but-cumbersome-in-practice style is irritatingly static even in manga form. Oda seems to be improving, particularly with the Kaku fight, but so much of what he does, particularly when it's time to finish a fight, seems to be 'go into the exact same three-sword pose, charge'. Some of the earliest ones are amazing to see in action. Luffy vs Don Krieg, Sanji vs Mr 2, Zoro vs Mr 1. Alot of those fights would've been limited by budget but the guy in charge at the time made them work really well and even if a scene had Zoro just slashing swords, the timing of the music, the cuts, the angles of every shot always gave the impression of solid movement or impressive actions. Like when he fights Mr .1 there's a scene where he literally just slashes sword at him while the camera moves slowly down the street which you think would be really lazy, but the music and the way they framed the scene gives off the impression that the fight is very intense and difficult, with neither being able to take the advantage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXE8TZbUS1c. The scene at the start would be the best example of what I'm talking about. Very little actual movement, but the scene feels very tense and exciting because of how they frame each action. It stays this way until I'd say roughly at the time tail end of Sabaody where the animation really takes a nosedive and they go the Naruto/Bleach route of trying to save their budget for big action scenes that don't look as good to me personally and smaller fights suffer as a result. The newer team isn't creative about it at all really and that's the biggest disappointment with the anime right now from me, because the team before had a much smaller budget and managed to do so much with what they had while the new guys are just so lazy in comparison. Even most of the newer music they've come up with is worse for the most part. Asuron fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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Darth Walrus posted:With that in mind, what would you say are the best-looking fights in the One Piece anime? What really stand out in animation, choreography, spectacle, and general technical competence? Blueno vs Luffy is loving incredible animated, and also a perfect example of how different animators can effect the quality of a scene. The fight takes place over four different episodes, you'll notice the cuts with the music to note when they switch to a different episode for the next part of the fight, so four different animators were used to make it happen, so it ranges in quality from quite laughable (that Gatling Gun still in the first part is hilarious ugly) to some of the best in the whole series (seriously, the end of the fight is better than the manga). I also like Luffy vs Lucci but it's like 40 minutes long and again, spread out over a whole bunch of episodes so the quality is all over the place. It's also all after the 300 episode mark which is right around when things really started to turn bad, so I doubt we'll ever see another fight as good as it ever again. The ending is great, mostly because they scored original music for that one scene and it works so well. Also all the movies have at least one good fight in them, and a handful are good outside of those fights, too. They all have better animation and choreography since they aren't just using the managa as a storyboard, and also don't split the work across animators so much, so those fights tend to be the best by default. SatansBestBuddy fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Aug 1, 2015 |
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Blueno vs Luffy is loving incredible animated, and also a perfect example of how different animators can effect the quality of a scene. The fight takes place over four different episodes, you'll notice the cuts with the music to note when they switch to a different episode for the next part of the fight, so four different animators were used to make it happen, so it ranges in quality from quite laughable (that Gatling Gun still in the first part is hilarious ugly) to some of the best in the whole series (seriously, the end of the fight is better than the manga). God this fight really is a highlight for me. It's just so loving cool.
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Literally anything involving Bartholemew "Big Bart" Kuma. He's my favorite. Edit: Also the Arlong-Luffy fight. I really liked the choreography of this because it wasn't just Luffy's arms turning into blurs and people getting hit seemingly by air. The fight seemed much more organic than effectively two combatants taking turns slugging each other between flashbacks. Crazyeyes fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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The newest episode was awesome and we did get some answers about D. Didn't expect Corazon to be a navy spy e: A guy in my research lab just got back from his visit home to China and brought me some mini-figures! Almost a full set 
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So after a wasted recap episode following a long rear end flashback we finally get back to some fighting. Luffy had better hurry up and ditch Bellamy, Law could really use a hand! I kinda wish they'd concentrate on a fight for a while instead of doing like three moves and switching to someone else. I want some resolution dammit!
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Zark the Damned posted:So after a wasted recap episode following a long rear end flashback we finally get back to some fighting. Luffy had better hurry up and ditch Bellamy, Law could really use a hand! This episode was p awesome I was fairly surprised they took his arm right off until I remembered Law's ability.
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Doflamingo's powers seem a bit broken. He's only got 10 fingers, but presumably he's pulling the strings of several tens of people at least, as well as an entire clone of himself, which can then make its own strings and provide him with vision, voice, hearing, etc. But then judging from his reaction to Luffy beating the clone, it was actually sentient and acted alone. It really seems to have nothing to do with strings. The invincible strings also strike me as a bit overpowered too. Can Zoro cut them? I've been also thinking about underpowered fruit for a while too, especially after Corazon. I think it's funny those pirates got the Op Op fruit and they decided to sell it. If you got a devil's fruit, would you eat it? Would you eat it if you didn't know what it was? Or if you knew it wasn't very useful? Knowing a better fruit *might maybe* come along later. Last condition because losing the ability to swim isn't very important to most of us: what if your livelihood depended on the ocean (fisherman or pirate etc)? Another thing I just thought of: Franky turned down the meramera no mi and said he likes his ability to swim, but as a robot, aren't his arms mechanical anyway? Won't they still function? Or maybe does the sapping just make you too tired to even think about moving?
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TBH most Devil Fruit powers seem to be whatever bullshit the writer thought of that's vaguely related. Kinda like Magneto's magnetism powers giving him mind control and resurrection. The clone dude is an extension of his body control / puppet ability, at a guess Doflamingo just gives it directives and it follows a pseudo AI instead of being controlled directly. Re Devil Fruits and Water, essentially getting dunked turns off your mental ability to move at all so Franky's cyber bits'd stop working. It doesn't do anything physically. I guess in Franky's case he could add some kind of airbag that auto inflates on contact with water though 
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I assumed parasite string controlled itself once it embedded in someone but that Doflamingo could take direct control of someone if he needed for more complex or precise actions.
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I was really surprised by Corazons use of his no-sound powers. I really enjoyed the montage or whatever you call it of him sneaking into and stealing the op op fruit. What was bullshit was how many times he got back up after getting shot. The bastard wouldn't die!
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Zark the Damned posted:TBH most Devil Fruit powers seem to be whatever bullshit the writer thought of that's vaguely related. Kinda like Magneto's magnetism powers giving him mind control and resurrection. Franky doesn't have a devil fruit.
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Suspicious Lump posted:I was really surprised by Corazons use of his no-sound powers. I really enjoyed the montage or whatever you call it of him sneaking into and stealing the op op fruit.
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Sep 16, 2015 03:32
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Captain Invictus posted:Are you new to One Piece?
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Suspicious Lump posted:I was really surprised by Corazons use of his no-sound powers. I really enjoyed the montage or whatever you call it of him sneaking into and stealing the op op fruit. Where were you when Pell survived a loving Atomic Bomb at point blank range
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Parrotine posted:Where were you when Pell survived a loving Atomic Bomb at point blank range Or Whitebeard's laundry list of injuries.
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"d[-.- posted:b" post="450277048"] No, that was actually cool as gently caress and sold the idea that he's the toughest guy in the world. Pell was a chump who got chumped hard so his heroic sacrifice was a cool way to redeem his chumpiness. He's so incredibly minor that whether he survived or not literally had no impact on the plot at all.
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Ryaomon posted:Franky doesn't have a devil fruit. I know he doesn't, it was a theoretical response to Shadow0's question about Franky's cyber bits still working if he had eaten a Devil Fruit: Shadow0 posted:Another thing I just thought of: Franky turned down the meramera no mi and said he likes his ability to swim, but as a robot, aren't his arms mechanical anyway? Won't they still function? Or maybe does the sapping just make you too tired to even think about moving?
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Parrotine posted:Where were you when Pell survived a loving Atomic Bomb at point blank range
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Shadow0 posted:
You're questioning the effects of devil fruit in a series where a gun ate the dog-dog fruit.
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Suspicious Lump posted:What? I thought that was anime bullshit. Did this actually happen in the manga? Hahah wtf. No one dies in One Piece outside of flashbacks and Ace/Whitebeard.
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Kild posted:No one dies in One Piece outside of flashbacks and Ace/Whitebeard. You forgot the Going Merry.
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Kild posted:No one dies in One Piece outside of flashbacks and Ace/Whitebeard. That was good though because the fact he never killed a character before made it carry weight.
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Silver2195 posted:You forgot the Going Merry. It lives on in the Thousand Sunny.
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Mini Merry will have a Klabauterman before Sunny. Then she'll be referred to only as 'Merry: the first and only ship of the Strawhat Pirates'.
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Holy crap the anime is finally starting to resolve some of the fights! With a ridiculously well animated final attack sequence to boot! Plus the secret of Baby 5's weird personality traits are revealed massive abandonment issues due to childhood trauma. Looks like next ep is some more Diamante vs Kyros action.
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Surprised how grim her past was. Also it turns out One Piece was created simply to answer "Can love bloom on the battlefield?"
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Baby 5's fight and backstory were two of my favorite surprises of this arc. Also I haven't been following the anime for a while but I watched this episode on a whim and oh man did I love the intro with Luffy vs Bellamy. Their first fight, waaay back in episode 151 (memorized that number due to watching it so many times), remains one of my absolute favorite One Piece moments.
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Baby 5's fight and backstory were two of my favorite surprises of this arc. Yeah this episode made me laugh a lot and tbh the hardboiled stuff still cracks me up. The last episode with the cat was gas.
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Kild posted:No one dies in One Piece outside of flashbacks and Ace/Whitebeard.
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Whitebeard and Ace were special because they were the first deaths, so they had to be big. We might get more dying now but hopefully not too much. Also Zoro freaking monet out by cutting her without haki was the greatest thing in that arc.
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