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StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
We've got one of the people who would never shut up about it and an FYAD troll here so I think it's about time to stop posting about Gamergate.

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Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

StandardVC10 posted:

We've got one of the people who would never shut up about it and an FYAD troll here so I think it's about time to stop posting about Gamergate.

Do you think they just search "gamergate" everyday to find threads to descend upon or can they smell it?

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Do you think they just search "gamergate" everyday to find threads to descend upon or can they smell it?

I don't think it's a coincidence that we just ended up on page 1337.
:tinfoil:

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

Did they, though?

Did Breitbart really call Alice's parents asking "Hey, this is Milo from a news rag you don't know... Did you know that your family member openly discussed raping your toddler?" and the family was all "Yeah, we totally know that but decided to not let any one know, especially the police, but you seem like such a nice young man that we are happy to admit it to you".

I would imagine that Milo got an unsolicited email/phone call from someone claiming to be them that confirmed everything he said and he never bothered to do any checking to find out if this random person who called/emailed him was who they said they were.

Can we please go back to talking about Crowder gamergate is boring as poo poo.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

Did they, though?

Did Breitbart really call Alice's parents asking "Hey, this is Milo from a news rag you don't know... Did you know that your family member openly discussed raping your toddler?" and the family was all "Yeah, we totally know that but decided to not let any one know, especially the police, but you seem like such a nice young man that we are happy to admit it to you".

Against my better judgement I decided to factcheck Wanker's claim

This was what I found

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...te-nationalism/

quote:

Alice is a pseudonym, which we are using to protect the identity of Nyberg’s cousin. Nyberg specifically names her then 8-year-old cousin using the latter’s real name and describes in detail how they are related. Using the information Nyberg posted online we were easily able to locate and contact Alice’s parents, who said they knew nothing about these logs but had made sure that Nyberg and their daughter had never been left alone together. Alice’s father preferred not to elaborate on why he and his wife took the decision to make sure Nyberg, then called Nicholas and living as a twentysomething man, was never given unsupervised contact with Alice, 8.

Truly damning. Notice how Alice's parents totally confirm everything with no extensive supposition whatsoever.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
"Hey, do you ever leave your daughter alone with your male cousin for extended periods of time?"

*No?*

"CONFIRMED PEDO!"

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
it's amazing that saying mean things about someone on twitter is enough to get them to harass your irl family and then post a news article about it

yes, these retards truly are paragons of ethical reporting and staunch defenders of freedom of speech

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
What really strikes me about the article is how performative the writing is.

Milo doesn't write like a journalist, he writes like somebody who has seen how journalists write and tries to mimic it.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Iirc srhbutts' big thing wasn't even poo poo talking, her real"crime"was retweeting vile poo poo gators said to make it harder to deny that gamergate is a bunch of fuckheads.

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Mel Mudkiper posted:

What really strikes me about the article is how performative the writing is.

Milo doesn't write like a journalist, he writes like somebody who has seen how journalists write and tries to mimic it.

Oh, you think that's bad? http://www.deathmetal.org/tag/metalgate/

I'm amazed he doesn't actually go all the way and use phrases like "dear reader," or "in this intrepid reporter's opinion..."

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Do you think they just search "gamergate" everyday to find threads to descend upon or can they smell it?
I know I can!

But seriously, I didn't bring it up, and neither did afgp. Neither of us had to.

Check the date of that Breitbart hit piece. It was just days ago. I don't know for sure if afgp would have brought it up if Kluwe wasn't mentioned, but it was probably going to be brought up eventually, this being the right wing media discussion and Breitbart being a part of it.

I think the degree to which the new alt-right is reaching out to and working with "concentrated niches of spiteful white hate," trying to build bonds by in this case running hit pieces on people the larger movement right could never care less about/that only these insular communities care about in exchange for enlisting them in their culture war against the CULTURAL LEFT, is interesting and germane to the larger discussion of right wing media.

I mean, National Review Online isn't running hit pieces on Sarah Nyberg. Rush Limbaugh got really unhinged about Sandra Fluke, but he didn't direct his listeners to bombard her house and her family with threats and insinuation. The politics of personal destruction is old, but this is something new, and it is still evolving. Welcome to the new age.




StandardVC10 posted:

We've got one of the people who would never shut up about it and an FYAD troll here so I think it's about time to stop posting about Gamergate.
I believe these larger issues can be discussed without referencing gamergate directly. However let's not pretend that it's going to go away if we ignore it. Let's not pretend that Breitbart won't post yet another hit piece about someone of no interest to anyone but gamergaters just because we're ignoring them.




QwertyAsher posted:

Can we please go back to talking about Crowder gamergate is boring as poo poo.
About Crowder...





It's almost like these dudes see themselves as allies in their struggles against THE CULTURAL LEFT and FEMINISM and SJWs and constantly scratch each other's backs?

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Sep 15, 2015

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Hulk Krogan posted:

Oh, you think that's bad? http://www.deathmetal.org/tag/metalgate/

I'm amazed he doesn't actually go all the way and use phrases like "dear reader," or "in this intrepid reporter's opinion..."

Whoa that's amazing. I didn't know The Room had a 'journalistic' ewuivalent.



one of those things doesn't belong :ssh:

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


Is there a way to see how many times #LwC has been a thing, outside of his own twitter? I don't know how twitter works.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

You can't talk SA raids without mentioning Reaganbook

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/31/reaganbook-is-the-latest-conservative-fail.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/09/new-website-reaganbook-wants-friend-request-from-conservatives/

http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/31/5952725/reaganbook-conservative-facebook-trolls

http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/07/trolls-bring-down-the-launch-of-conservative-social-network-reaganbook/

http://www.rawstory.com/2014/07/trolls-quickly-drown-reaganbook-social-media-site-in-sea-of-profanity-pornography/

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

James Garfield posted:


one of those things doesn't belong :ssh:

Wait, I am confused.

The "no talent" part seems to be an accusation towards her
But the "no political correctness"seems to be a declaration of their own intent

So, is it supposed to be "we do not like her because she is talentless and lacks political correctness" or "we do not want talent or political correctness"

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/glenn-becks-10-million-refugee-effort-aims-save-only-christians

Glenn Beck is so very very ready to help the poor refugees. Provided they aren't the wrong religion because "I have no way to tell the good muslim from the bad ones, theres no differentiation as far as I can tell".

Well that seems harsh. Surely there are muslims who hate ISIS as much, or perhaps because they have real life experience with them as opposed to jackoff fantasies where they Rambo them after they kill all the liberals, even more than you Glenn. What about them?

"but I dont know whose side you're on because you havent stood up en masse and differentiated yourself. So I can't figure that one out"

So, remember future refugees from foreign lands: before you flee your home in mortal terror from armed thugs, ask yourself "did I remember to sufficiently inform the internet celebrity and gold coins salesman that I'm a good muslim?" if not you may be turned away. Sorry!

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

So, remember future refugees from foreign lands: before you flee your home in mortal terror from armed thugs, ask yourself "did I remember to sufficiently inform the internet celebrity and gold coins salesman that I'm a good muslim?" if not you may be turned away. Sorry!

Call me crazy but perhaps running in terror with only the clothes on your back from Islamic extremism is a good way to tell they are against Islamic extremism

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



That's just what the terrorists want you to think.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/glenn-becks-10-million-refugee-effort-aims-save-only-christians

Glenn Beck is so very very ready to help the poor refugees. Provided they aren't the wrong religion because "I have no way to tell the good muslim from the bad ones, theres no differentiation as far as I can tell".

Well that seems harsh. Surely there are muslims who hate ISIS as much, or perhaps because they have real life experience with them as opposed to jackoff fantasies where they Rambo them after they kill all the liberals, even more than you Glenn. What about them?

"but I dont know whose side you're on because you havent stood up en masse and differentiated yourself. So I can't figure that one out"

So, remember future refugees from foreign lands: before you flee your home in mortal terror from armed thugs, ask yourself "did I remember to sufficiently inform the internet celebrity and gold coins salesman that I'm a good muslim?" if not you may be turned away. Sorry!

wow, what a prick. what ever happend to the good Samaritan christian, you know the guy who would help anyone, not just of his faith.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Sep 15, 2015

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Both raids mentioned were FYAD?

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

Xibanya posted:

What a lot of these dudes don't realize is that at the time in which young girls in western cultures were being forced to get married at that age is that the reason why the match was being made to begin with was because the girl was marrying a guy who was reasonably well-off financially and if the guy wasn't born to wealth that meant he had spent a long time working his way up to that point, hence the age disparity. So these dudes don't realize that if the world worked the way they wanted they wouldn't even get their anime waifu until they were approaching middle age anyway.

Of course, getting a waifu in middle age is better than how they'd do now, so.....

Minghawk
Oct 9, 2012

Mel Mudkiper posted:

That movie is really boring for fourteen year olds to watch though

It features full frontal female nudity, so there's something to catch their attention at least.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:

8chan (where all the lovely gamergate nerds went to because 4chan was censoring them) has a board dedicated to looking at little girls in underwear or whatever. It's not even searchable on Google anymore because it's such a lovely place filled with lovely pedophiles.

To be clear on this, the original 8chan was founded because 4chan cracked down hard on child porn posting - the first like year you'd only get temporary (months long) bans for it. So moot decided that it was a zero tolerance permanent ban thing, and all information would now be forwarded to the FBI immediately of the person who posted And well, that original 8chan got shut down because it was absolutely full of illegal porn and if I remember right like 80% of the admins are in jail from it still. And so the 8chan name went unused for many years.

So the current 8chan, it was founded by all the gamergate nerds because even 4chan thought gamergate people were too stupid and annoying to tolerate (think on that, it's really quite impressive). And for old times sake, the new 8chan people also decided to let in child porn just like the original 8chan people! Because free speech or some bullshit like that. Hopefully they'll all end up in jail soon too.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Probably slow on the trigger here, but goddamn if this guy doesn't look like an adult Draco from Harry Potter.

Dirt
May 26, 2003

Jack of Hearts posted:

Both raids mentioned were FYAD?

Reagan book was a GBS thing and it was really funny at the time. Still funny now that I think about it.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Intel&Sebastian posted:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/glenn-becks-10-million-refugee-effort-aims-save-only-christians

Glenn Beck is so very very ready to help the poor refugees. Provided they aren't the wrong religion because "I have no way to tell the good muslim from the bad ones, theres no differentiation as far as I can tell".

Well that seems harsh. Surely there are muslims who hate ISIS as much, or perhaps because they have real life experience with them as opposed to jackoff fantasies where they Rambo them after they kill all the liberals, even more than you Glenn. What about them?

"but I dont know whose side you're on because you havent stood up en masse and differentiated yourself. So I can't figure that one out"

So, remember future refugees from foreign lands: before you flee your home in mortal terror from armed thugs, ask yourself "did I remember to sufficiently inform the internet celebrity and gold coins salesman that I'm a good muslim?" if not you may be turned away. Sorry!

I've heard that Christans in territory under ISIS control are actually pretty safe, as long as they pay protection money a special tax they get left the hell alone. It is the people who follow a strain of Islamic that ISIS doesn't approve of that get really screwed over so maybe we should try and help the people that don't have an easy immidate out LOL NOPE gently caress THEIR MOON GOD WORSHIPING BUTTS.

I mean I honestly doubt its nice living in under fundamentalist crazy people but Christians under ISIS have an out and Islamic of the wrong sort don't so we should focus on helping the latter maybe? :shrug:

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Nintendo Kid posted:

To be clear on this, the original 8chan was founded because 4chan cracked down hard on child porn posting - the first like year you'd only get temporary (months long) bans for it. So moot decided that it was a zero tolerance permanent ban thing, and all information would now be forwarded to the FBI immediately of the person who posted And well, that original 8chan got shut down because it was absolutely full of illegal porn and if I remember right like 80% of the admins are in jail from it still. And so the 8chan name went unused for many years.

So the current 8chan, it was founded by all the gamergate nerds because even 4chan thought gamergate people were too stupid and annoying to tolerate (think on that, it's really quite impressive). And for old times sake, the new 8chan people also decided to let in child porn just like the original 8chan people! Because free speech or some bullshit like that. Hopefully they'll all end up in jail soon too.

also of note is that the founder of 8chan also started a site purely for bitter 30+ year old virgins

e: where it's bannable to make reference to being a woman or having friends

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Klaus88 posted:

I've heard that Christans in territory under ISIS control are actually pretty safe, as long as they pay protection money a special tax they get left the hell alone. It is the people who follow a strain of Islamic that ISIS doesn't approve of that get really screwed over so maybe we should try and help the people that don't have an easy immidate out LOL NOPE gently caress THEIR MOON GOD WORSHIPING BUTTS.

I mean I honestly doubt its nice living in under fundamentalist crazy people but Christians under ISIS have an out and Islamic of the wrong sort don't so we should focus on helping the latter maybe? :shrug:

I'd like a source for this one so I could hopefully open up this dialogue with some Facebook people I know

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Motto posted:

e: where it's bannable to make reference to being a woman or having friends

This sounds like a parody

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

Klaus88 posted:

I've heard that Christans in territory under ISIS control are actually pretty safe, as long as they pay protection money a special tax they get left the hell alone. It is the people who follow a strain of Islamic that ISIS doesn't approve of that get really screwed over so maybe we should try and help the people that don't have an easy immidate out LOL NOPE gently caress THEIR MOON GOD WORSHIPING BUTTS.

I mean I honestly doubt its nice living in under fundamentalist crazy people but Christians under ISIS have an out and Islamic of the wrong sort don't so we should focus on helping the latter maybe? :shrug:

Epic High Five posted:

I'd like a source for this one so I could hopefully open up this dialogue with some Facebook people I know
Nah, ISIL said the tax thing (jizya) was supposed to happen, but they've been kidnapping, killing, and beheading Assyrian Christians anyway (and Egyptian Coptic Christians, and Ethiopian Christians), because ISIL. The only reason it's not more of an issue a horror story right now is because the various Assyrian Christian groups in Syria and Iraq have formed militias like Sutoro and the Nineveh Plain Protection Units and have generally allied with the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds for protection against ISIL.

This is an example of some real, actual Christian persecution that the right is constantly screaming about, but looking at it too hard is a bad idea for right wing media, because trying to compare "you will be loving murdered by ISIL for being Christian" and "some woman doesn't want to issue marriage licenses" kinda puts the whole "persecution" thing into perspective.

fade5 fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Sep 16, 2015

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


fade5 posted:

Nah, ISIL said the tax thing (jizya) was supposed to happen, but they've been kidnapping, killing, and beheading Assyrian Christians anyway (and Egyptian Coptic Christians, and Ethiopian Christians), because ISIL. The only reason it's not more of an issue a horror story right now is because the various Assyrian Christian groups in Syria and Iraq have formed militias like Sutoro and the Nineveh Plain Protection Units and have generally allied with the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds for protection against ISIL.

This is an example of some real, actual Christian persecution that the right is constantly screaming about, but looking at it too hard is a bad idea for right wing media, because trying to compare "you will be loving murdered by ISIL for being Christian" and "some woman doesn't want to issue marriage licenses" kinda puts the whole "persecution" thing into perspective.

Also they're swarthy Arabs/Arabic-speakers themselves, and don't necessarily have a great opinion of Israel. The sad fact is that Israeli Jews are a much more reliable, desirable political prop for evangelical American Christians than actual Middle Eastern Christians

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

fade5 posted:

Nah, ISIL said the tax thing (jizya) was supposed to happen, but they've been kidnapping, killing, and beheading Assyrian Christians anyway (and Egyptian Coptic Christians, and Ethiopian Christians), because ISIL. The only reason it's not more of an issue a horror story right now is because the various Assyrian Christian groups in Syria and Iraq have formed militias like Sutoro and the Nineveh Plain Protection Units and have generally allied with the Syrian and Iraqi Kurds for protection against ISIL.

This is an example of some real, actual Christian persecution that the right is constantly screaming about, but looking at it too hard is a bad idea for right wing media, because trying to compare "you will be loving murdered by ISIL for being Christian" and "some woman doesn't want to issue marriage licenses" kinda puts the whole "persecution" thing into perspective.

Ok, thanks for the links so that I might educate myself. Do you think there is an element of :siren: BROWN PEOPLE :siren: to it as well since Fox news is molding pile of dog whistling assholes?

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008

The best part of that thread was Natetimm making the statements


"Censorship of fiction is an inherent evil."

and

"That entire conversation exists because of the censorship of video games at retail outlets by boycotts."

without realizing his absolutism has moved him into a position where it is immoral for a store to choose not to not stock lolicon torture porn.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Nintendo Kid posted:

To be clear on this, the original 8chan was founded because 4chan cracked down hard on child porn posting - the first like year you'd only get temporary (months long) bans for it. So moot decided that it was a zero tolerance permanent ban thing, and all information would now be forwarded to the FBI immediately of the person who posted And well, that original 8chan got shut down because it was absolutely full of illegal porn and if I remember right like 80% of the admins are in jail from it still. And so the 8chan name went unused for many years.

So the current 8chan, it was founded by all the gamergate nerds because even 4chan thought gamergate people were too stupid and annoying to tolerate (think on that, it's really quite impressive). And for old times sake, the new 8chan people also decided to let in child porn just like the original 8chan people! Because free speech or some bullshit like that. Hopefully they'll all end up in jail soon too.

8chan's servers and head admin have actually relocated to the Philippines which I'm supposing is one way to escape the law on that. Not sure if the Philippines is any less judicious than the U.S. with child porn cases but I d know that it's a paedophile sex haven and also where that one Aussie paedophile who made a child porn snuff film was collared in.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

7c Nickel posted:

without realizing his absolutism has moved him into a position where it is immoral for a store to choose not to not stock lolicon torture porn.

I don't think he would argue against this though

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Klaus88 posted:

Do you think there is an element of :siren: BROWN PEOPLE :siren: to it as well since Fox news is molding pile of dog whistling assholes?

Yes. Fox and friends usually don't consider any non-white person Christian. See also their studied ignorance that Hispanics are a heavily Christian demographic.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Cythereal posted:

Yes. Fox and friends usually don't consider any non-white person Christian. See also their studied ignorance that Hispanics are a heavily Christian demographic.

catholics are not True Christians

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Dirt posted:

Reagan book was a GBS thing and it was really funny at the time. Still funny now that I think about it.

Also IIRC, Reaganbook was the 2nd facebook ripoff.

The same people made Tea Party Community earlier and GBS also had fun with them.

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008

Mel Mudkiper posted:

I don't think he would argue against this though

Actually he managed to dig out a sub basement by clarifying that it was such a niche product that it didn't really count as censorship. Only refusing to stock things the majority likes counts as censorship you see.

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fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

Klaus88 posted:

Ok, thanks for the links so that I might educate myself. Do you think there is an element of :siren: BROWN PEOPLE :siren: to it as well since Fox news is molding pile of dog whistling assholes?
Yeah, icantfindaname got the rest of it:

icantfindaname posted:

Also they're swarthy Arabs/Arabic-speakers themselves, and don't necessarily have a great opinion of Israel. The sad fact is that Israeli Jews are a much more reliable, desirable political prop for evangelical American Christians than actual Middle Eastern Christians
Assyrian Christians are old-school Christians, as in "have been Christians since literally the time of Jesus". Assyrian Christianity is very, very unlike Protestant, Catholic, or Eastern Orthodox Christianity, it's basically what Christianity looked like back in 100 or 200 AD, it's even pre-Islamic.

quote:

The Assyrian Church of the East, is a Syriac Church historically centered in Assyria, northern Mesopotamia. It is one of the churches that claim continuity with the historical Patriarchate of Seleucia-Ctesiphon – the Church of the East. Unlike most other churches that trace their origins to antiquity, the modern Assyrian Church of the East is not in communion with any other churches, either Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, or Catholic.

Theologically, the church is associated with the doctrine of Nestorianism, leading to the church, also being known as a "Nestorian Church", though church leadership has at times rejected the Nestorian label, and it was already existing in Assyria some four centuries prior to Nestorius.

The church employs the Syriac dialect of the Aramaic language which evolved in Assyria during the 5th century BC in its liturgy, the East Syrian Rite, which includes three anaphoras, attributed to Saints Addai and Mari, Theodore of Mopsuestia and Nestorius.

The Church of the East developed between the 1st and 3rd centuries AD from the early Assyrian Christian communities in the Assuristan province (Parthian ruled Assyria) of the Parthian Empire, and at its height had spread from its Upper Mesopotamian heartland to as far as China, Mongolia, Central Asia and India.
Aramaic is likely the language that historical Jesus and his disciples spoke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestorianism

quote:

Nestorianism is a Christological doctrine that emphasizes the disunion between the human and divine natures of Jesus. It was advanced by Nestorius (386–450), Patriarch of Constantinople from 428–431, influenced by Nestorius' studies under Theodore of Mopsuestia at the School of Antioch. Nestorius's teachings brought him into conflict with other prominent church leaders, most notably Cyril of Alexandria, who criticized especially his rejection of the title Theotokos ("Bringer forth of God") for the Virgin Mary. Nestorius and his teachings were eventually condemned as heretical at the First Council of Ephesus in 431 and the Council of Chalcedon in 451, leading to the Nestorian Schism, in which churches supporting Nestorius broke with the rest of the Christian Church. Following that, many of Nestorius's supporters relocated to the Sasanian Empire, where they affiliated with the local Christian community, known as the Church of the East. Over the next decades the Church of the East became increasingly Nestorian in doctrine, leading to it becoming known alternately as the Nestorian Church.
When you start looking at the Assyrian Christians, you get into some very ancient, unfamiliar, and very uncomfortable territory for the right-wing evangelicals:



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