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Artless Meat posted:Apparently the PS4 version is getting VR support. Wonder if they'll add occulus support to the PC version. if you're taking this from the navel in project morpheus, it could also just be a gimmick for tgs
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Doublestep posted:mch is incredibly anemic outside of wildfires but you get a cool gun
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lol if you think FF14 VR on a ps4 will be anything other than  inducing.(e: it'll actually work fine but have super low graphics settings, which is okay, but not good for the glamour end-game) Truga fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Sep 15, 2015 |
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Sep 15, 2015 14:35
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i honestly think it's just a one-time gimmick for tgs cause sony wants to show off their headset
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Sep 15, 2015 14:45
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Possibly not - apparently Yoshi-P has mentioned adding VR support to the PS4 version in the past. Who knows, though, I can't really see VR working in this game. Then again, another one of the demos is apparently a Hatsune Miku game, and I really can't see what VR would bring to a rhythm game.
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Sep 15, 2015 15:29
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Why wouldn't VR work for this game? VR works really well for 3rd person games, and as a bonus less people get sick in 3rd person than in 1st.
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Truga posted:Why wouldn't VR work for this game? VR works really well for 3rd person games, and as a bonus less people get sick in 3rd person than in 1st. VR would only be acceptable with unnerfed cat butts
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Sep 15, 2015 15:46
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It doesn't matter, they've confirmed the VR is only a demo for TGS. ..And now I can't read TGS without thinking of Thirty Rock.
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Xenoveritas posted:It doesn't matter, they've confirmed the VR is only a demo for TGS. ..And now I can't read TGS without thinking of Thirty Rock. God drat I miss that show 
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kalstrams posted:Oh, so it works out well on all levels. That's quite neat! I have only used a gamepad since starting the game in 2.2 and I'm raiding in savage Alex. It's magical how well the controls are mapped, but it's absolutely something you have to get used to. I'd be totally lost at this point if I switched to kbd+mouse, and I'm sure it'd be the same for players used to that setup if they were handed a gamepad and told to go kill stuff. Tab targeting as a tank or DPS is questionable but not usually a game breaker (trying to target giant enemies that don't quite fit in your field of view is terrible but that is more of an engine problem). I remain very bad at controller healing though.
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Sep 15, 2015 17:27
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I'm much of a keyboard and mouse player, having very little gamepad experience in my life - gamepad controls in massive hotbar MMO was just a novelty that struck me. Might try one day, have to get a couch and bigger screen before that happens though.
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I'm still getting used to the G13 pad and just really have to take the plunge and do a dungeon with it (probably a low level one so I can't mess it up for others too much). The thing is comfortable but I'm still unsure the best way to bind it that works with my playstyle.
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I have an enormously newbie question that I can't answer for myself on the wikis and etc. How do cross class skills work? I am a Gladiator and a Miner but the ones tagged as Cross Class aren't there for me. What do I do?
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Taear posted:I have an enormously newbie question that I can't answer for myself on the wikis and etc. You have to level those classes to learn those skills before you can crossclass them.
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Taear posted:I have an enormously newbie question that I can't answer for myself on the wikis and etc. Gladiator and Miner don't share any worthwhile skills. I mean, you can put Triangulate on your bar if you really want I guess. Hit P to open your powers window. Click down to Additional, and you'll be able to slot in which cross-class skills you've learned that you want to use. There is an upper limit which increases as you level. Once something's selected in there, you can put it on your bar and use it.
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kafziel posted:Gladiator and Miner don't share any worthwhile skills. I mean, you can put Triangulate on your bar if you really want I guess. I wanted to prospect, that's all. The wiki says you can do! So I can always see if I'm wandering past stuff.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:41
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Once you get some more things leveled (so you actually have combat-related cross-class things to use), you'll find yourself running into the cross-class slot limit. At that point you'll probably rather have something that'll actually be useful in combat, than the ability to see nearby gathering nodes. As a general rule you're better off going full-bore gatherer when you want to gather, and ignoring gatherer nodes the rest of the time (which in turn means you don't even need to see where they are). The ability delay when you swap classes (outside of towns or major camps) discourages you from going "oh hey, I'm walking past a node, I'll just gather a bit then get back to what I was doing".
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Taear posted:I wanted to prospect, that's all. The wiki says you can do! So I can always see if I'm wandering past stuff.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:52
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Another thing to know with combat cross class abilities is that they don't carry traits over. So for example, vanilla Blood for Blood increases your damage dealt by 10% and damage taken by 25%. Lancers/Dragoons get a trait to make it increase your damage dealt to 30% and damage taken to 15%. When you cross class that skill you get the vanilla version (10%/25%) instead of the traited one (30%/15%). I know it doesn't have much to do with what you're trying to do but still a good thing to know for down the road.
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Every opinion this poster has is bad. Like, I want to believe he's trolling, but.. just look at his post history. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/261664-More-Horizontal-Progression-please?p=3317972&viewfull=1#post3317972
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Sep 15, 2015 21:32
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He's not wrong that instancing everything off made some aspects of MMO worlds a lot less interesting. However, it also fixed a lot of bullshit.
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Sep 15, 2015 21:34
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nuru posted:He's not wrong that instancing everything off made some aspects of MMO worlds a lot less instancing. However, it also fixed a lot of bullshit. Whatever truth to his posts may seep in isn't enough to make him any less horrible. This is the same guy who argued for playable children, and when told people would only use it the option for ccreepy poo poo he trotted out actual child porn laws to show that 'virtual kids have no rights so its fine to put them in sexual situations'.
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Verranicus posted:Every opinion this poster has is bad. Like, I want to believe he's trolling, but.. just look at his post history. quote:In Open World dungeons, you are not strangers. You are friends and the other players are rivals, you are watching every single thing other players are doing and because there are other players fighting you feel more immersed into the world. Not really. They are strangers who are either killing what I am killing or just help me and then we move along. Or in the case of unspoiled nodes they are idiots who aggro a mob and can't get that unspoiled node. quote:FFXIV, is the most anti-social MMO game I have ever played. That is a real honest statement. quote:In EQ, that was different.. I knew everyone and remembered their faces and names. I remembered their patterns. I "KNEW" them. And now we see where it all stems from. He is another one of those gonards with their rose tinted goggles on to tight. Gone are the days of no lifeing it to get anywhere in a game. They want to be king poo poo by having no life outside of the game because their real life is probably awful. Edit: Their sig should tell you everything you need to know why they want it to be harder for people who play less and for everything to be non instanced. quote:Anti-Hero {} Roleplayer {} Professional Princess Saver {} PvPvEr Holyshoot fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Sep 15, 2015 |
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unironically want world pvp in ffxiv
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Doublestep posted:unironically want world pvp in ffxiv Adding duels or a world pvp area would be awesome. It'll never happen but I would love it.
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The questing in swtor is actually really group friendly, you can just hop in and help your buddies out with their quests in their phases or roll to see who calls the npc fat. Compare to trying to level the first 15 in ffxiv where you constantly have to ungroup to do the same quest, and sometimes to turn it in.
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Doublestep posted:unironically want world pvp in ffxiv Murdering the gathers as they try to get their 20 min nodes would never not be fun.
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TwistedNails posted:Adding duels or a world pvp area would be awesome. It'll never happen but I would love it. Duels would be alright, but world PVP is pretty much universally awful.
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frontlines should have been a persistent zone you ran into to do pvp dueling should be in the game so i can sit in queue for poo poo while beating up people on the 80 sins
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Sep 15, 2015 23:29
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I will never understand the constant desire for PvP in primarily PvE focused and centric games. Like Final Fantasy is so engrained in a PvE centric world and environment and story..but I WANT TO KILL THAT DUDE THAT JUST HELP ME SLAY THE DRAGON  What you want is Guild Wars 2. Pretty Princess and PvP haven.
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Sep 15, 2015 23:50
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Guild wars 2 is a piece of poo poo though
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Hivac posted:Guild wars 2 is a piece of poo poo though
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Sep 15, 2015 23:59
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pvp in mmorpg is a piece of poo poo though
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ilifinicus posted:pvp in mmorpg is a piece of poo poo though Random acts of pvp sound funner than they usually are. 'Alright this dude helped me kill a dragon time to gank him!' 'huh, he didn't die. And is now teabagging my corpse.'
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EponymousMrYar posted:Literally the only time I had fun with it was back in my WoW days where I jumped in the mid-level battleground queue a bunch of times and found that there was a relatively stable pool of regulars who did the same (on both sides.) We all got to know each other gradually and it was fun playing with friends against familiar foes. Well its better than pvp in eve where you wait on a gate to prevent an escape for 8 hours straight.
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Sep 16, 2015 00:29
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Seal rock is lots of fun.
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Seal Rock is good and fun. World pvp is not.
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Obscurity posted:I will never understand the constant desire for PvP in primarily PvE focused and centric games. Like Final Fantasy is so engrained in a PvE centric world and environment and story..but I WANT TO KILL THAT DUDE THAT JUST HELP ME SLAY THE DRAGON The only thing to understand is that most of these people do not actually want challenging combat versus other real players. What they want is the ability to be a complete dick to people with no real consequences.
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Nipponophile posted:The only thing to understand is that most of these people do not actually want challenging combat versus other real players. What they want is the ability to be a complete dick to people with no real consequences. This. Although I don't mind having world bosses that mildly encourage max level PvP
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wereboat posted:The questing in swtor is actually really group friendly, you can just hop in and help your buddies out with their quests in their phases or roll to see who calls the npc fat. Compare to trying to level the first 15 in ffxiv where you constantly have to ungroup to do the same quest, and sometimes to turn it in. The one good thing about TOR was being the one Light Sith or Dark Republic guy who wins the quest dialogue lottery and changes the course of the entire instance because those routes tend to invariably be more interesting but people get really mad about it.
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