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CrazyLoon posted:I might be misremembering, but didn't Todd Howard say in one of the interviews that they really want to follow Skyrim's example, of NOT making all the terrain be uniform and have different regions instead, each with its own theme for a landscape? If so, there's still a solid chance to find that wonderfully green natural post-apoc region in FO4, just as there will be the blasted wind-swept one, the city-themed one and the nuclear FO3-themed one. I also remember Todd talking about there being different areas and weather that flows across the map. In particular he mentioned a west/southwest area that was where the bomb hit. I'm assuming this is the area that is shown in the E3 trailer with the hazy orange background and a deathclaw. I'm hoping that things get greener the further away you are. They should look to The Witcher 3 for inspiration.
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Inverness posted:I'm hoping that things get greener the further away you are. They should look to The Witcher 3 for inspiration. Witcher 3 is a beautiful game but it has its own issues, where all of the plant life looks like it is on a drip-feed of crack.
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Biome changes tend to be really subtle in Bethesda games past Morrowind. Skyrim did it better than Fallout where you had wasteland and ruined city and in the wasteland the only difference you could see around certain areas is that you find more trees than rocks.
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Bholder posted:Biome changes tend to be really subtle in Bethesda games past Morrowind. Skyrim did it better than Fallout where you had wasteland and ruined city and in the wasteland the only difference you could see around certain areas is that you find more trees than rocks. I was fine with everything in Skyrim biome-wise except the Rift. Why was it always fall?
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JackBadass posted:I was fine with everything in Skyrim biome-wise except the Rift. Why was it always fall? Excessive background radiation. 
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Excessive background radiation. Welp, works for me.
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Excessive background radiation. nice `shop you got there
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Sep 16, 2015 02:02
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Fallout Shelter has a 999,999 cap limit, lame
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Azhais posted:Fallout Shelter has a 999,999 cap limit, lame send me some caps, richie rich
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New video, perception makes you steal things
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Glad to see the ol grenade in the pocket is still a thing.
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Sep 16, 2015 16:24
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I hope that means pickpocketing will be a more supported feature kind of how it was in Skyrim. Really just a simple percentile UI element to help more accurately assess my chances would be great.
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It's kind of weird that the game is only a couple months away now and yet the only gameplay we're seen from it is the stuff from the e3 demo over and over again.
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graynull posted:I hope that means pickpocketing will be a more supported feature kind of how it was in Skyrim. Really just a simple percentile UI element to help more accurately assess my chances would be great. Chance based gameplay elements suck. I don't have an alternative.
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Sep 16, 2015 17:23
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Rinkles posted:Chance based gameplay elements suck. I don't have an alternative. A pickpocketing minigame, similar to lockpicking?
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Sep 16, 2015 17:41
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Here's the thing about the foliage stuff: 90% of people are so stupid that upon firing up F4, if they see green foliage and poo poo after nature reclaiming what man took, the reaction they will have is 'I don't get it, I thought this was supposed to be a nuclear wasteland  I DON'T LIKE THIS'Also the FPS/specs stuff. Back Hack posted:It's kind of weird that the game is only a couple months away now and yet the only gameplay we're seen from it is the stuff from the e3 demo over and over again. Meh not really. Probably a better marketing strategy than letting you see all kinds of poo poo so you can build hype and be disappointed later.
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Sep 16, 2015 18:01
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steinrokkan posted:A pickpocketing minigame, similar to lockpicking? Sounds awful. What would the minigame involve?
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Rinkles posted:Sounds awful. What would the minigame involve? QTEs?
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Rinkles posted:Sounds awful. What would the minigame involve? finding the correct password through a puzzle in which selecting a password will tell you how many of the characters out of n characters are correct, and clicking on bracketed sections provides you with bonuses.
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Sep 16, 2015 18:05
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Any info on what the specs are going to be? I want to know if I should start shopping for a new video card or not.
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sout posted:finding the correct password through a puzzle in which selecting a password will tell you how many of the characters out of n characters are correct, and clicking on bracketed sections provides you with bonuses. God no anything but this.
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Geoff Zahn posted:Any info on what the specs are going to be? I want to know if I should start shopping for a new video card or not. Buy one in Nov if you're gonna buy one, I *think* nVidia is releasing a hardware update (smaller transistors or some poo poo I can't quite remember) so all the current 9xx and whatevers should drop in price.
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Moridin920 posted:Here's the thing about the foliage stuff: They'll also not like the fact that not everything can be hosed and just mod it anyway. Just because NMA will hate it means Beth will avoid putting it in. If you want your same boring deserted ruins, just mod that poo poo in.
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Back Hack posted:It's kind of weird that the game is only a couple months away now and yet the only gameplay we're seen from it is the stuff from the e3 demo over and over again. That's how they've always done it. Skyrim and Oblivion had that one gameplay demo and that was it. I can't even remember what the demo for Fallout 3 and New Vega were. People were talking about how it makes no sense that Fallout still looks like it's right after the bombs dropped but it's 200 years later, after I heard that Fallout is inspired by Mad Max it all makes sense. As far as we know, it's the same Max in all the movies. He was a cop before the nukes came down, yet just a few years later the entire planet is a desert and all of the buildings have completely vanished. People that should have been kids when he was a cop somehow don't remember anything before the nukes, and even people older than him somehow don't remember it either. I don't think Max remembers any of it either. In Fallout it's the opposite, it's 200 years later and everybody acts like the bombs just dropped. There actually are people that were around before they dropped, and everything looks more like it was abandoned rather than had nuked dropped on them. Edit: icantfindaname posted:also, is this game literally still on the fallout 3 engine? ahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahah Yaos fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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I don't think New Vegas even got a gameplay demo, just a montage trailer. Everyone knew it was going to play nearly identical to 3.
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Irrerrerrerregardless of how good the animations in the actual game will be, I'm enjoying the work put into those SPECIAL promos. I wonder if those were done in-house.
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Yaos posted:That's how they've always done it. Skyrim and Oblivion had that one gameplay demo and that was it. I can't even remember what the demo for Fallout 3 and New Vega were. Mad Max's universe is intentionally vague though, they don't mention specifics, and up until Fury Road it wasn't explicitly stated that nukes had anything to do with it. The movies themselves can't all be joined up in any chronological line even because they are all over the place and they are better for it. They also don't mention anything about other nations or countries either, so we don't know what Europe or China or Africa or the Americas are doing in the Mad Max universe. Fallout by contrast has taken up it's original look in the original games as a part of it's identity. I really don't think it's a conscious choice anyone is making, it's just has to look Fallout, which means sand, dead trees, Nuka-Cola and wowee-zowee ray guns. It's also Bethesda so it's easy to just assume they are incapable of taking the look of Fallout anywhere new.
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Cones of perception, like in Phantom Pain, would be a good way to have stats tied to stealing. Have the engine make an aggregate score of your PER - target.PER, use that to give them a cone of perception around their model, which the player has to triangulate. Higher aggregate score gives a more favorable shape (like more empty space where you're 100% undetected), higher scores also reduce the amount of time before an alert is triggered, negative scores make it extremely likely that they'll find you. That would make more sense in agility, however. That's all a pipe dream, obviously. Bethesda has already decided on what they're going to do.
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Crabtree posted:They'll also not like the fact that not everything can be hosed and just mod it anyway. Just because NMA will hate it means Beth will avoid putting it in. If you want your same boring deserted ruins, just mod that poo poo in. I mean don't get me wrong I'd love to see nature reclaiming poo poo and having green lichen pulling down concrete structures and stuff but you know most people are just not gonna be able to parse that with 'nuclear wasteland,' 200 years later or no and at the end of the day this is a product put out by a business and they want it to appeal to as wide of an audience as reasonably possible. It just so happens most of the audience expects that 'Fallout-y' stuff (remember most of them also haven't played F1 or F2). Malpais Legate posted:I don't think New Vegas even got a gameplay demo, just a montage trailer. Everyone knew it was going to play nearly identical to 3. I didn't even know NV was out until my gf asked me if I had played it yet 2 weeks after release. That's honestly the best way to experience a new game. Watching footage and stuff just makes you expect things which leads to disappointment. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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Moridin920 posted:I mean don't get me wrong I'd love to see nature reclaiming poo poo and having green lichen pulling down concrete structures and stuff but you know most people are just not gonna be able to parse that with 'nuclear wasteland,' 200 years later or no. I mean, The Last of Us does that whole aesthetic for its post-apocalypse, and it's one of the best selling PS4 games of all time. STALKER is less popular and does the same thing. Fallout isn't the same genre exactly, but there are family similarities between all three.
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Lazy_Liberal posted:send me some caps, richie rich Not sure what series of events have sparked this, but I'm starting to get attacked by bigger groups now. Just got attacked by a group of 4 raiders instead of the usual 3. Eagerly awaiting packs of 6 deathclaws.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:It may be hyperbole, but sometimes it feels like Duke Nukem Forever levels of "it's going to be amazing guys!" in here. Always. Bet. On. Duke. Always bet on Duke. Learn it, love it. Say groovy a lot. Plan to chew bubblegum, even if you're all out of gum. A. Beaverhausen posted:Not true. The Dragons Age 2 thread of all places became an enforced hugbox, to name an example. I wasn't here for the thread but it was a good and underrated game in my book. It has lots of entertaining dialogue while you wander around and hit people, that's what I needed when it hit. (These posts are a couple weeks old, I was playing MGSV folks. This is a retro throwback, like the Fallout mascot guy) Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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KakerMix posted:Mad Max's universe is intentionally vague though, they don't mention specifics, and up until Fury Road it wasn't explicitly stated that nukes had anything to do with it. The movies themselves can't all be joined up in any chronological line even because they are all over the place and they are better for it. They also don't mention anything about other nations or countries either, so we don't know what Europe or China or Africa or the Americas are doing in the Mad Max universe. Nope, they can be joined up in a chronological line. http://madmax.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_events quote:George Miller revealed in an interview from 1984 that the events of the first two movies took place some odd 15 years from then. This would place the first two movies in the mid to late 90's. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome takes place 15-18 years after which puts it in 2014 - 2018. It's incredibly tiring that people keep claiming that Bethesda is lazy and can't do anything different, even though every game is different.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:When Neil Armstrong was interviewed after returning from the moon, he reflected on the fact that--up until the moment they physically set foot on its surface--nobody knew virtually anything about the moon. He recalled heated arguments at NASA HQ regarding every minutiae of Luna: What the moon was actually made of. If the moon made its own light. Whether or not the Soviets (or the Chinese) were already on the moon. If you could breathe on the moon. "What" the moon actually "was". Scientists and technicians would pore over grainy photos taken from observatories and jerky 8 mm films from planes that had tried to get a "closer look" at Earth's little sister. "Here," a geologist would point at a black speck on a photograph. "This is a lake. A lake on the moon." A Darwin-medal Biologist maintains that the porousness of the moon's surface means that it is comprised primarily of a biological "sponge-like" material. Generals squint after repeated viewings of film until secrets are ferreted out of their frames. "The military wanted to send us up there with a hand grenade," Armstrong reflected. "They said that the 'unnatural jaundice' of the moon could only mean that the Chinese had already begun to colonize it. For a while, people started hating the moon--they didn't trust it. Not if Chairman Mao was already building a palace on it." A-freakin-men, Neil. Inspiring words. sector_corrector posted:John "Punished" Fallout. Punished "John" Fallout. Eonwe posted:if you dont get how samus is a strong character period, even from the games that are light on the story then lol The masculine robot I piloted in the NES game? Or at least I assume the robot was masculine.
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As some one who's been playing the games in this series since 1997 I can assure you that (what we've seen of) Fallout 4 looks nothing like the first 2. And as a huge fan of the first 2 I'm glad Bethesda is sticking to the same narrative. Also maybe the Bethesda devs haven't gone through and rewritten everything because, I donno, they actually like what the Black Isle team had created and wanted to work with that? Putting their games on the East Coast has allowed them to change up a few things and tell the story their way. But why would you waste money buying an established IP if you wanted to go back and just change everything anyway?
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Rincewind posted:this is one of the worst threads on all of something awful dot com somehow It's raw, like sushi, but also delicious and nutritious, like sushi.
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