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Ahem. MPs do their jobs until there's a war.
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Except for techs Because war or no war grunts are always breaking poo poo.
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Sep 6, 2015 20:24
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Techs rule. No bias or anything though. 
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Sep 6, 2015 22:05
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flakeloaf posted:Ahem. MPs do their jobs until there's a war. Lol Yeah fair enough.
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Sep 6, 2015 23:12
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and medics, and clerks and... Peacetime army is a strange creature indeed.
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Sep 7, 2015 06:31
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flakeloaf posted:Ahem. MPs do their jobs until there's a war. What job? Pulling over people for not wearing seatbelts? Aren't most real crimes that happen on bases (murder, etc.) just investigated by real police anyways? Don't the Patricia's have their own regimental police because MPs won't step foot in their lines? (maybe that last one was just some rumour)
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Sep 7, 2015 20:36
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Just murder, rape and treason, otherwise MPs do the same work civilian police do. The problem is that the bosses don't quite understand what that means, so they say things like "I want to see you make ten traffic stops today" or "The BComd doesn't want people blowing the red at the main gates", so you get a lot of guys following specific orders to dick people around. Also a lot of these poor bastards are bored out of their tree because nothing ever happens, so when something does pop up everyone goes disproportionately berserk. RMPs aren't really a thing, but at the same time if I had worked on a hard army base I wouldn't have dreamt of doing poo poo without the CSM onside or an ex combat arms guy leading the way. flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Aug 28, 2023 |
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Sep 7, 2015 21:18
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My cousin is an MP and he's in Africa for some reason he's not telling me about. Embassy duty? At least he's not a glorified security guard at 101 anymore.
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Sep 8, 2015 15:08
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Frosted Flake posted:My cousin is an MP and he's in Africa for some reason he's not telling me about. Embassy duty? Probably force protection, which is like being a security guard except you're on TD and the people and/or kit you're responsible for is some combination of awesome, expensive and ought not to be where it is. I got my turn in Sudan when I was a QL3 Cpl and the trip was wall to wall fun. If you're gonna go on TD, go with Herc maintainers. I know they need MPs wherever there are soldiers but "I'm an MP Cpl at 101" has got to be one of the checkboxes on the release forms at this point. Bosses' eyes are always on you and you have no idea what motivates them from one day to the next, there are basically no Qs so that means basically no police-policing*, the specialist MP units are all having way more fun than you are in direct line-of-sight from your desk (ITCU, NIS, NCIU, MSGU and the jammiest gig of all, the Air Marshals) and most of the military clients are in multi-tenant buildings with about eight layers of security between sidewalk and desktop so unless someone like me blunders into a poorly-signed wiring closet that has a hey-gotcha intrusion alarm in it, you often feel like you have nothing to do. And nature abhors the sight of a WO who knows he has a Cpl with nothing to do. For a lot of MP Cpls in Ottawa, success means leaving Ottawa - but you can't do that until you make MCpl and good feckin' luck doing that in a unit that large. *Post-Somalia they went out and hired a bunch of people who had their eye on professional policing as a career but really had no business being soldiers (like me). They put berets on us, gave us Potemkin powers and made us subordinate to actual soldiers who A) didn't all make great cops and B) struggled with the idea of a literate, self-aware 26-year-old recruit who asked questions like "Why?". Back in my day, they wheezed, nobody asked a Sgt "why", if he said look stupid dadgummit they got to lookin stupid! The frustration and bitterness about the whole situation (e: From both sides, cause the young guys all wanna do the poo poo they saw on COPS and the bosses know that it's important to document secure rooms and run gate checks and avoid rocking the boat by pouting around like a bunch of malcontents because in reality an MP Cpl has it really, really good) is easy to hide on an operational base because people have actual work to think about doing, but at 101 I saw that poo poo take a foothold in a lot of guys' heads with fascinating results. The smart ones kept their heads down until they were posted out or got hired away, cause really, even at its worst that job is still the envy of a great many people. The dumb ones got drunk, or beaked off and got in the bosses' faces about stupid poo poo, or forced unwinnable arguments that just made everyone around them miserable to be there. But that's just my own personal opinion, flawed and biased as it may be. flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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stevobob fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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Sep 9, 2015 11:49
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Try not feeling like you're entitled to something, doing what you're told and not being a dick to your minions cause you're bored. Seems to work in every other trade. "The worst possible career trajectory sees me retiring with a 60% indexed pension that's three times what you need to squeak by in a major city" is a thing a lot of people in this country would love to say for themselves.
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Sep 9, 2015 13:58
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poo poo. I'll have to take him drinking when he gets back. Are Force Protection the HSLD looking plainclothes guys with the gucci kit I've seen at the ranges occasionally? I assumed they were a RCMP team or something. The least fit, most socially incompetent guy I worked with has gone on a soylent diet in preparation for CJIRU selection. I wish they set up bleachers so people could watch all the try-hards get weeded out.
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Sep 9, 2015 15:15
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Frosted Flake posted:poo poo. I'll have to take him drinking when he gets back. Are Force Protection the HSLD looking plainclothes guys with the gucci kit I've seen at the ranges occasionally? I assumed they were a RCMP team or something. Plainclothes + gucci kit normally means they who shall not be named, but I thought they had their own range so yeah, could be the gravel road cops. Close protection teams (bodyguards) dress in civis but their gear is usually pretty standard. Force protection is the MP in blacks with an empty (or no) holster sitting in a Hilux parked between the Hercs.
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Sep 9, 2015 15:20
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flakeloaf posted:Plainclothes + gucci kit normally means they who shall not be named, but I thought they had their own range so yeah, could be the gravel road cops. Close protection teams (bodyguards) dress in civis but their gear is usually pretty standard. The CP guys that I knew were always wearing gucci kit too. And yeah, I don't think you'll see much of the _______ guys on regular ranges. Depending on what they're shooting - if it's tarted up rifles, ERT usually practises in their black (blue) pyjamas and Oakley's, so they're pretty distinctive. I'd say the best money is on CP.
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If you see ERT ask them if they're TRU. Always good for a laugh.
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Sep 10, 2015 13:24
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flakeloaf posted:If you see ERT ask them if they're TRU. Always good for a laugh. Edmonton Police tac tried to get renamed to SWAT because apparently "Tactical Unit" doesn't carry enough public recognition. Why that matters, I have no idea. They already have their black pyjamas and carbines and hair gel and oakleys. It's painfully obvious who they are.
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I'm currently in INT and it's absolutely incredible. It's the greatest job, if you're lucky and good at your job. If you want more info, PM me or contact me at hizawky at the gmail. poo poo is incredible, and the opportunities I've experienced is second to none. Deployments, foreign courses and foreign exchange programs (I worked with the 82nd! Airborne for a month) However, if you hate working, or suck at anslysis, or get the short end of the stick and become a collater, life is terrible and you may want to kill yourself. If you put in effort and hard work, our trade is one of the few that rewards it. If you're a shitbag, or dont care, it sucks to be you.
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Sep 13, 2015 11:56
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^^ that is if you dont want to suck-start a shotgun before the end of your time at CFSMI. you're also not going to become an actual analyst in the NCM side till you hit Sgt so have fun flocarking maps and dragging and dropping files into different named folders (which we somehow call "collation" in the CAF)
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Sep 13, 2015 23:25
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Putting little red missile-shaped stickers on maps is also pretty fun.
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Guest2553 posted:Putting little red missile-shaped stickers on maps is also pretty fun. Stickers? That sounds way smarter way than redrawing and erasing each one. CFSMI isn't that smart.
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Sep 14, 2015 02:07
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Don't forget reading the news to your Major every morning. That never gets old.
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Sep 14, 2015 02:43
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flakeloaf posted:Don't forget reading the news to your Major every morning. That never gets old. IT'S CALLED A BRIEFING GOD
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Sep 14, 2015 15:53
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Hizawk posted:I'm currently in INT and it's absolutely incredible. It's the greatest job, if you're lucky and good at your job. lol holy poo poo we found the golden goose Remember my previous post, where I said that INT can be a great gig if you're one of the 5% that has a cool career? That's this guy The other 95% are the people who become collators
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Melian Dialogue posted:^^ that is if you dont want to suck-start a shotgun before the end of your time at CFSMI. CFSMI IS A CENTER OF EXCELLENCE AND COLLATION IS THE GLUE THAT HOLDS THIS MILITARY TOGETHER
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Sep 14, 2015 18:34
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Melian Dialogue posted:Stickers? That sounds way smarter way than redrawing and erasing each one. CFSMI isn't that smart. tbf I'm not int, i just helped put some strat sams on a map one time not that it ever helps with that damned roland at the farms 
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A buddy of mine from tour (who is also a goon but never posts here because he's too cool for it) went to the Hyena Road Premiere at TIFF last night. He said he's pretty impressed, considering his low expectations from Passchendaele. Sounds like Paul Gross might have actually done a decent job. I'm going to try to bang up a crew of veterans to go to the premiere in my town. We can all wear our gongs pinned to our t-shirts and loudly tell stories in the lineup using as many acronyms as possible.
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Sep 15, 2015 17:06
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Nothing can ever be worse than Passchendaele. Barbed wire crucifixion what. Though opening scene where that Deutches Heer scrub gets the ol' knifey-brainey was pretty cool and actually got my attention.
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MA-Horus posted:Nothing can ever be worse than Passchendaele. Barbed wire crucifixion what. Yeah it had its moments. But apparently Hyena Road avoids most of the Hollywood pitfalls (not all, but most) and does a decent job representing the CF.
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Sep 15, 2015 21:00
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It can't be worse than the last film festival Canadian Afghanistan movie I saw, Afghan Luke or whatever. The one about the Sniper who rode a horse somewhere by himself, and forgot his C7 was still strapped onto the horse when he got ambushed by a sniper. I mean, c'mon. I get a little Hollywood lack of realism (honestly, I am not a tactilol critic, I even enjoyed that IED movie that won the Oscar), so I get suspending some disbelief from "B-B-B-UT TACTICS!", but this one just takes the cake for me.
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Sep 15, 2015 21:22
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Melian Dialogue posted:It can't be worse than the last film festival Canadian Afghanistan movie I saw, Afghan Luke or whatever. The one about the Sniper who rode a horse somewhere by himself, and forgot his C7 was still strapped onto the horse when he got ambushed by a sniper. Holy crap that looks deliciously terrible in the trailer
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Sep 15, 2015 22:38
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Melian Dialogue posted:It can't be worse than the last film festival Canadian Afghanistan movie I saw, Afghan Luke or whatever. The one about the Sniper who rode a horse somewhere by himself, and forgot his C7 was still strapped onto the horse when he got ambushed by a sniper. I remember this movie on how loving amazingly bad it was, but I forgot the title until now. I can't believe I paid money to go see that.
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Sep 16, 2015 11:57
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Bon Cop Bad Cop is the only Canadian movie I've seen that isn't a steaming pile of merde.
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Guest2553 posted:Bon Cop Bad Cop is the only Canadian movie I've seen that isn't a steaming pile of merde. well,
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Never actually heard of that one, I guess I'm a bad Canadian. Anyways, pension question - How does indexation work? Once you become first eligible is the increase only from that year onward or is it retroactive for all the previous years it wasn't indexed? I thought it was the former (ie, retire after 20 with a pension of 30k, lose it all to inflation, but once you're 60 it'll go up by a jammy 2%) but someone else thought it was the latter (ie, same scenario but when you hit 60 your pension jumps to 50k).
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Guest2553 posted:Never actually heard of that one, I guess I'm a bad Canadian. Its the latter. quote:Indexing is inflation protection which is applicable to all Canadian Forces Superannuation Act (CFSA) annuities and Defence Service Pension Continuation Act (DSPCA) pensions. It is administered under Supplementary Retirement Benefits (SRB) Part III of the CFSA, and the Supplementary Retirement Benefits Act (SRBA).
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Awesome, thanks for the info. Nobody I felt comfortable asking knew, government websites are extraordinarily lovely to navigate, and I'm out of country so there's nobody I can easily call. vvv and it's still much better than it used to be 
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Sep 18, 2015 05:07
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Navigating the DWAN is like trying to cross a minefield of broken links and out dated information.
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Sep 18, 2015 11:14
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Come on, it's no worse than trying to search for loving anything on the DIN. Why yes, I did mean to search for some lovely memo sent to a Cadet unit. That is exactly the same thing as the PAM that I very specifically spelled out. 
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The new search engine (which manages to somehow be worse than the old one) also filters anything that isn't a document by default, so if you're looking for a unit's home page you aren't finding it unless you click some boxes. I'm confident your average client will not figure this out.
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