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Basic Chunnel posted:They tried to sync up a YES chant and it sounded awful. I was honestly thinking something about how it can't be that hard. If Enzo has an audio file with him doing his thing, you just merge the crowd chanting and the VO to the same file. Then I remembered that this is the same company that has to create an entirely new character for what is essentially a costume change, and you have different entrances for singles, tag with Cas, tag with different wrestlers, and probably adding a line for Carmella for when she becomes DLC. This poo poo is probably unnecessarily complicated.
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Astro7x posted:I was honestly thinking something about how it can't be that hard. If Enzo has an audio file with him doing his thing, you just merge the crowd chanting and the VO to the same file. Wow they should hire you because you know how easy all this stuff is.
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Sep 16, 2015 17:28
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The Big Taff Man posted:Wow they should hire you because you know how easy all this stuff is. It's brave of you to defend corporations
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Sep 16, 2015 17:30
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For real, it's kind of depressing all this shade about these games are thrown at the devs, when it's the publishers that enforce the yearly release rule, set deadlines, decide which features should and shouldn't be important, and pretty much everything that hamstrings Yuke's.Golden Bee posted:It's brave of you to defend corporations There are real human beings making these games, and I'm sure they're not dumb idiots who smell bad and make games bad on purpose.
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Golden Bee posted:It's brave of you to defend corporations Its easy to criticize something where you dont know how it works imo. To me making Enzo and Cass sound real seems something that would be complicated by layering audio and I'm sure most of the people making the games would love to be able to make it sound just right, in the same way they'd probably like the commentry to not be stilted or there to be every one of your favourite wrestlers in the game. Somethings are limited by technology. I'm more bothered by the fact that Enzo doesnt wave back and forth with his "You Cant Teach That" than the audio sounding funny.
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The Big Taff Man posted:Its easy to criticize something where you dont know how it works imo. To me making Enzo and Cass sound real seems something that would be complicated by layering audio and I'm sure most of the people making the games would love to be able to make it sound just right, in the same way they'd probably like the commentry to not be stilted or there to be every one of your favourite wrestlers in the game. Somethings are limited by technology. It's not even technology, but time. People truly don't understand just how much time and money goes into making a AAA game. A year isn't nearly long enough to get everything working right, while also doing silly poo poo like perfecting audio mixes or recording entire crowds, putting them into the game and then making sure it also doesn't break horribly (or break anything else horribly).
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Sep 16, 2015 17:48
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Fixing the audio for Enzo and Cass would actually be a fairly straight-forward task, as last year's game demonstrated they are already geared up for taking sound from actual shows. Cena, the Wyatts and Paige all had sound ripped straight from TV. Getting a live-like performance out of somebody in a studio is hard, so I understand why Enzo sounds so flat, but mixing in better crowd noise in the background, at least, is not in any way beyond them. That said, I am impressed by the actual animation for it. It's as good as I would ever dare ask for. But that's just what 2K prioritises, I would guess. Visuals will rack up the pre-orders more than audio. A few choice screenshots or one slick animation is more worth their time than getting any kind of sound effect right. Nobody is going to pre-order the game because holy poo poo, Cole has a few new lines, whereas people will pre-order a game because holy poo poo, look at that RKO.
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pressedbunny posted:Fixing the audio for Enzo and Cass would actually be a fairly straight-forward task, as last year's game demonstrated they are already geared up for taking sound from actual shows. Cena, the Wyatts and Paige all had sound ripped straight from TV. People complained about that, too.
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Sep 16, 2015 17:59
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I skip entrances most of the time anyway, because in any given game you're going to see each one a thousand times. But yeah, ripping live audio and choreographing CG movements to it can't be that difficult.
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Yeah I never get people who get all particular about entrances. I always turn them off after the first maybe 20 minutes. In this one I'll probably watch like Demon Finn and maybe the Vaudevillains, give other people those entrances a couple times for laffs, then ignore it forever. That's just my take though.
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Sep 16, 2015 18:17
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Sounds like this game is CAW2k16 with Austin Mode. That's actually worth a buy for me.
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projecthalaxy posted:Yeah I never get people who get all particular about entrances. I always turn them off after the first maybe 20 minutes. In this one I'll probably watch like Demon Finn and maybe the Vaudevillains, give other people those entrances a couple times for laffs, then ignore it forever. That's just my take though. I liked them in the N64 Era when you'd get a few seconds of it, could instantly skip and be into the match. Now it's like a 2 minute delay between loading the entrances and loading the matches. gently caress that.
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Astro7x posted:I liked them in the N64 Era when you'd get a few seconds of it, could instantly skip and be into the match. Now it's like a 2 minute delay between loading the entrances and loading the matches. gently caress that. Can you install the games to the hard drive on consoles? On PC it takes about two seconds to skip intros too.
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Sep 16, 2015 21:02
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Terminator's hair looks stupid because its not the hairstyle that's associated with any incarnation of the character or the one he has for like 95% of the movies just give him like, Alex Riley's old hairstyle instead
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Bard Maddox posted:Terminator's hair looks stupid because its not the hairstyle that's associated with any incarnation of the character or the one he has for like 95% of the movies It's pretty accurate to how he looks in the beginning of Terminator, which is where that outfit comes from. There is a second attire with the more well-known look.
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Lady Naga posted:I know it was a few years ago but seriously, go look at the hair in Human Revolution, a core franchise, one published by Square Goddamn Enix, one that took four years to make, and then tell me you expect a yearly released non-madden sport game published for consoles to look any better. Until 2K15 every WWE game looked identical to the 2006 release. So yes I expect a game to look not look worse than literally any other game released in the last five years.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Until 2K15 every WWE game looked identical to the 2006 release. So yes I expect a game to look not look worse than literally any other game released in the last five years. Hurr durr.
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Sep 16, 2015 23:53
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At least they get the crowd reactions right each year
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Lady Naga posted:Hurr durr. WWE 2K15 (2014) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaCUWXIFCc TNA Impact (2008) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOE_wdMdEYU hurr durr indeed (for maximum laughs WWE 2K13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuxBnXG1RYk)
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Call Me Charlie posted:WWE 2K15 (2014) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaCUWXIFCc By the way, with the recent changes to model quality, WWE is officially caught up with UFC 2009
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Austin no, Taker enjoys it too much
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I just realized looking at that screenshot that we are, through Austin mode, going to suffer through one million years of Austin/Kane/Taker WHOSE SIDE IS HE ON, which were all somehow compressed into the summer of 98. It wasn't good.
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Sep 17, 2015 04:35
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It wasn't good if you were over 10 years old maybe, that stuff is peak nostalgia for me
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RBX posted:It wasn't good if you were over 10 years old maybe, that stuff is peak nostalgia for me Personally, I hope his match with Steamboat from Clash 17 is in, although it may not be so they don't have to show Steamboat's injury. Also a bunch of Dangerous Alliance stuff. It's a shame that the Sting's Squadron vs Dangerous Alliance War Games from WrestleWar 1992 won't be in.
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Sep 17, 2015 04:50
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Hopefully his "Dragon Slayer" attire will be available.
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Why does Charles Robinson look like the exact same model they had in 14? The ref in 15 looked way better.
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Nut Bunnies posted:
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I can't wait to see where they shoehorn a Titantron in the ECW arena.
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Muddy Burphy posted:I can't wait to see where they shoehorn a Titantron in the ECW arena. Some of the retro arenas in 2k14 had no titantrons, I'd imagine the ECW arena would be the same.
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I feel like Austin's knee braces look better than anything else in that shot. That's really not a good thing.
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That is pretty clearly a pic from the last gen version. Not to say the next gen pics looks that great, they certainly look better than that.
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Lady Naga posted:There are real human beings making these games, and I'm sure they're not dumb idiots who smell bad and make games bad on purpose. Technically corporations are real human beings. Blast Fantasto posted:It's pretty accurate to how he looks in the beginning of Terminator, which is where that outfit comes from. There is a second attire with the more well-known look. Heel Terminator and Face Terminator.
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Sep 18, 2015 10:41
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Remember all the hope when 2K bought this franchise? Different toilet, same poo poo. Jesus Christ, it should take two decades to make a good wrestling game.
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I was thinking about how bad the situation has been for WWE games since they "went yearly". Then I realized that there have actually been yearly releases since 1998. In fact, Smackdown 1 and 2 both came out in 2000. 
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That's why it's astounding to me when people are like "what did you expect, it's a yearly game series, a year isn't long enough for a good game", like good Maddens haven't happened or good NHL games or HCTP/SVR 06/SVR 08
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Chris James 2 posted:That's why it's astounding to me when people are like "what did you expect, it's a yearly game series, a year isn't long enough for a good game", like good Maddens haven't happened or good NHL games or HCTP/SVR 06/SVR 08 Or, more relevantly, every single NBA 2K (and MLB 2K, rip) game ever. I was super excited when 2K got the license because they are the best in the world at this. Unfortunately the quality of their shoot sports titles does not seem to have translated fully.
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Sep 18, 2015 15:13
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Likely because WWE games get a fraction of the budget and manpower of the top tier sports game franchises.
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