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Meanwhile, in Michigan... Remember Todd Courser and Cindy Gamrat, the two tea party douchebags who got expelled from the Michigan lege last week for carrying on an affair while in office and other salacious stuff? Well, I guess it ain't over yet!
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I guess we (along with Walker's campaign manager) misread how unbridled that Koch support really was
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Sep 17, 2015 20:07
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Smart read from Jon Bernstein on what the Raiders of the Tortilla Coast are up to here.quote:Remember, the aim of the radicals is to show they are the only True Conservatives. Since no real difference exists between them and most other Republicans in Congress on the issues, they use tactics to differentiate themselves. And one effective way to ensure that other conservatives don't just opt for those tactics too is to pursue the stupidest, most counterproductive strategy they can come up with. And good comparison to the People's Front of Judea Crack Suicide Squad.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:09
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Trump successfully tapped into the white nationalist/right-wing populist vote first and I don't think anyone can take that away from him at this point. The sort of attacks launched at him can broken down into: - He's an entertainer and not a serious candidate . - He's a sexist, bigoted bully. - He's bad on foreign policy. - He used bankruptcy law 4 times or something. None of these attacks have stuck.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:10
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ComradeCosmobot posted:So both Vox and Slate are out with a a number of pieces calling this debate the beginning of the end for Trump, and the beginning of the rise of Carly Fiorina. Haha what nonsense.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:16
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Joementum posted:Smart read from Jon Bernstein on what the Raiders of the Tortilla Coast are up to here. Bernstein's argument assumes that the Freedom Caucus has a basic understanding of political realities and the way Congress works. Is there any other evidence to support this claim?
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Sep 17, 2015 20:20
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KaptainKrunk posted:Trump successfully tapped into the white nationalist/right-wing populist vote first and I don't think anyone can take that away from him at this point. The successful attacks on Trump are to bait and switch him on policy. The Anti-Vax question almost worked but Carson didn't want to gently caress up his VP spot.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:24
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Fried Chicken posted:It certainly sounds like him, doesn't it? 
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Sep 17, 2015 20:29
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Trabisnikof posted:The successful attacks on Trump are to bait and switch him on policy. The Anti-Vax question almost worked but Carson didn't want to gently caress up his VP spot. It won't work because Trump worded it in a way that many agree with, even if they are nominally pro-vaccine.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:30
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foobardog posted:I think it's more the beginning of the end for Bush. This is like bizarro 2012 where it's the establishment struggling to find a not-Trump. History repeating as farce.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:33
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Kinda unbelievable that the Koch Brothers picked Scott loving Walker out of everyone to be their standard bearer. Obviously they just want a sock puppet they control but your sock puppet has to be not be Scott Walker.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:39
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Kinda unbelievable that the Koch Brothers picked Scott loving Walker out of everyone to be their standard bearer. Obviously they just want a sock puppet they control but your sock puppet has to be not be Scott Walker. Says a lot about Wisconsin.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:42
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FAUXTON posted:Says a lot about Wisconsin's Democrats . Fixed that for you.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:44
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Fried Chicken posted:It certainly sounds like him, doesn't it? Hah, I was going to say Ross Perot, but the amount of money looked pretty low.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:44
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Joementum posted:Transcript of phone call the school administrators placed to the police: You should be in charge of the Zyborne Clock sequel
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Sep 17, 2015 20:51
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Mitt Romney posted:According to Bush, he was looking for his wife in the audience. During the main photo op for the debate. Not sure which is funnier, that it happened, that he got called out on it or that he actually came up with that lameass excuse. He's as bad at running for president as his brother was at being one. Fried Chicken posted:It certainly sounds like him, doesn't it? It's fairly obvious that he would be against spending money to subjugate minorities overseas when we can do it much cheaper right here at home.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:52
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Meanwhile, in Michigan... It's only tangental to that, but Chad Livengood's been really on top of poo poo in Lansing. Wasn't he the one who first published the story about Snyder's skunk works?
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Sep 17, 2015 21:16
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Internet Webguy posted:Not sure which is funnier, that it happened, that he got called out on it or that he actually came up with that lameass excuse. He's as bad at running for president as his brother was at being one. Bush senior was an unremarkable campaigner but an unremarkable president. Dubya was a great campaigner but a terrible president. Jeb! is a terrible campaigner... so he must be a great president after election, QED
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Sep 17, 2015 21:21
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As others have said, McCain had the media as his ally trough a lot of that, I don't think Walker has that in him.
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Sep 17, 2015 21:25
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The Nation just ran a piece calling for Obama to go to Ahmed Muhammad's mosque, and I couldn't agree more. The troll potential is too great to be passed. Also, W is the only president to have gone to an American mosque so Obama's totes should.
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Sep 17, 2015 21:25
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Rygar201 posted:The Nation just ran a piece calling for Obama to go to Ahmed Muhammad's mosque, and I couldn't agree more. The troll potential is too great to be passed. Also, W is the only president to have gone to an American mosque so Obama's totes should. That Freep thread would bring me so much joy.
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Sep 17, 2015 21:29
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Joementum posted:Susan Collins got her 6000th consecutive vote in the Senate today. Chuck Grassley (who turned 82 today How is Deb Fischer in third place? Isn't she a new Senator? Do most Senators really abstain so much that a first termer can make it to 3rd place?
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Sep 17, 2015 21:38
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) leads the Senate with 7447 consecutive votes. Third place is Deb Fischer with 924.
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Sep 17, 2015 21:53
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this_is_hard posted:It's even more hilarious to me because it really seems like JEB! is saying this crap about his brother out of pride and/or the desire to protect the family name. If you're not willing to throw your family under the bus on the way to the White House, you're just not Presidential material.
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Sep 17, 2015 22:27
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Holy poo poo. I was in the break room and CNN was playing and they were summarizing the high/lowlights from the debate, and they played that clip of Jeb saying that Dubya "kept us safe" and actually COMMENDED him for saying a line that "played well with the audience", while not bothering to point out why said line was in reality, really loving stupid. Your librul media, ladies and gentlemen.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:10
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Mr Interweb posted:Holy poo poo. I was in the break room and CNN was playing and they were summarizing the high/lowlights from the debate, and they played that clip of Jeb saying that Dubya "kept us safe" and actually COMMENDED him for saying a line that "played well with the audience", while not bothering to point out why said line was in reality, really loving stupid. They also just sort of forgot to mention that the Planned Parenthood video everybody was denouncing was a fake. But hey, RATINGS BITCHES! Edit - I started to list some of the other lies that they did not call out, but I would be here for at least an hour if I made a comprehensive list.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:12
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More evidence that CNN is actively worse than Fox News.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:18
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Mr Interweb posted:Holy poo poo. I was in the break room and CNN was playing and they were summarizing the high/lowlights from the debate, and they played that clip of Jeb saying that Dubya "kept us safe" and actually COMMENDED him for saying a line that "played well with the audience", while not bothering to point out why said line was in reality, really loving stupid.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:23
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fade5 posted:I am glad that that line is gonna get some play, reminding people of the hell of the Bush Administration is a good thing. i hate to be a negative nelly but in another five or so years nobody will remember anything bad about the bush years
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Not sure where I was going with that. Nevermind.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:39
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How did the Brit thread react to the Maggie on the  statement?
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DolphinCop posted:i hate to be a negative nelly but in another five or so years nobody will remember anything bad about the bush years Conservatives haven't ever remembered anything bad about the bush years. Time jumped from 2000 to 2008 for bad things, but for good things it jumped from 1992 to 2000 and then stopped in 2008 and nothing good has happened since.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:If you're not willing to throw your family under the bus on the way to the White House, you're just not Presidential material. if your family happens to be the same one as GWB, yes agreed
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so what happens if/when the establishment triumvirate can't scrounge up enough delegates to secure nomination by convention time? the End Times begin?
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Sep 18, 2015 00:09
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icantfindaname posted:so what happens if/when the establishment triumvirate can't scrounge up enough delegates to secure nomination by convention time? the End Times begin? Yeah maybe, but reminder that this is the current state of the Republican Primary: 
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DolphinCop posted:i hate to be a negative nelly but in another five or so years nobody will remember anything bad about the bush years And trust me, Iraq is going to be a burning hellhole for years, if not decades. We broke that country hard when we invaded.
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Sep 18, 2015 00:22
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People have more or less forgotten Vietnam, but will almost universally say it was a mistake. Which is encouraging really because people in power tried really really hard to persuade people that the United States was doing a good thing there and people decided all on their own that it wasn't. Iraq will probably be even worse in the age of Youtube and easy information. It's like Reagan- he worked out well in the 80's, but would he have in the age of youtube, where his dementia would be obvious to all?
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Sep 18, 2015 00:30
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Nelson Mandingo posted:People have more or less forgotten Vietnam, but will almost universally say it was a mistake. Which is encouraging really because people in power tried really really hard to persuade people that the United States was doing a good thing there and people decided all on their own that it wasn't. The dementia was pretty obvious to people at the time, eve through the carefully arranged media stuff.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:People have more or less forgotten Vietnam, but will almost universally say it was a mistake. Which is encouraging really because people in power tried really really hard to persuade people that the United States was doing a good thing there and people decided all on their own that it wasn't. I don't know if that's really true. At least not with Real America type voters, who bought into the revisionist dolchstoss stuff completely and believe it was the evil gook-loving veteran-hating liberals who lost the war. I think such a narrative but with Iraq has a pretty good chance of taking hold
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Nelson Mandingo posted:People have more or less forgotten Vietnam, but will almost universally say it was a mistake. You mean that war that the politicians and liberals wouldn't let us win? That was the mistake  Anyone else get the feeling that the push for Fiorina is just to try and get some more broads on board the GOP train?
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